onlinevideoguy

I am just getting ready to start selling Mobile websites and I see this! I think it is cool but I dont want my future clients to know about dubamoble.com I have a outsourcer set up and I am ready to go then i see this! lol Someone ease my mind!! Thanx! ~Daryn

MarlboroMonkey

I'm sure it will be possible. Just like it's still possible to sell regular websites with national T.V. marketing of website builders (1&1 recently). Most brick & mortar businesses won't stumble upon dudamobile and suddenly set their own site up. That being said, they do have a reseller program

onlinevideoguy

Thanx! Yeah, I'm sure it will still be possible to but still kinda bums me out a bit! lol I'll have to look into there reseller program as well!

joecarson1

If you come across a business owner that has heard of "duba' a year from now, I would be shocked. We know about such things, because it is part of our business to know.

ltplenus

They have no idea about mobile sites, leave alone dudamobile ;-)
Go for it buddy !

AppsFromHome

Dudamobile is a GOD SEND! I love it!

I use their reseller program and it has been one of my best tools for the offline business sector. The prices are fair and the sites are the most professional you'll find......you can create the full site and show your client in preview mode with no Duda branding.

It's fantastic.

RubenJames

SDotSpells,

Reading up on dudamobile...I find that we can NOT use the .mobi extension

Have you found this to be a problemo?

Seeing http://m.yourdomain.com as the ONLY choice...makes me wonder how long dudamobile will stick around after the "honeymoon" of its just coming out and being "flavor of the moment" will last... :rolleyes:

What do you think? :confused:

Ruben James

RubenJames

Daryn,

I feel the same way YOU do!

I was all jazzed about selling Mobile sites when I suddenly see FREEBIES and low end Mobile sites for sale! AAARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!!!

Well...time to RE-think this one! :rolleyes:

Ruben James

Adrian John

Duda can't offer quality mobile websites. Look around and see what worrios can create for your clients. I am building mobile websites from scratch everyday and the quality it's way better that duda's or any other automated builder out there.
Remember that when human it's involved, no robot can match it.

Don't worry about Duda ! DO you worry about Google sites, Wix and other services when you're selling website design? I hope not

Good luck.

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Quentin

Hey you guys that are concerned about dubamoble.com, your correct there are hundreds of these popping up so it is not a good business for you to get in.

Just too much competition so stay away.

Of course there are thousands of shops selling coke a cola as well so if you set up a shop your should not sell it either.

Also thousands of real estate agents so dont get into this field either.

Lots of web design companies so stay away from them too.

Basically you should go get a job!

Sorry I do not mean to be mean just a silly post from me.

Quentin

WillR

I can tell you one thing for certain. If you guys sit around worrying about pointless things like this then you will not make a dime in your own business. This is not a legitimate concern. Get out there and start selling mobile sites. Stop looking for excuses and start taking action. There are plenty of reasons you can come up with as to why something will not work. Do you think this is what the people making all the money are doing?

How many free website builders are there online today that can be found with one simple search of Google? How many business owners do you think are using these free website creators to build their own websites? You can sit there and worry about free website builders or you can be one of the thousands of people out there building websites every day of the week and charging their clients thousands of dollars for the job.

It may be tough love but sometimes that's what is needed. I don't want to see you guys missing out on such a great opportunity because you were too worried about some tools that no business owners will ever know about.

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ScottW

Really? Do what Will says in his WSO. Do a local search on Google Mobile and look for the little green phones for any businesses you like! See how many competitors you have!

joecarson1

Quentin and Will just about covered it for now!

RubenJames

Will & Quentin,

Excellent Input!

I made it sound as if I was giving up and not going to DO the Mobile site biz at all...

Not so! I just needed to "Re-Group"...hike up my pants and GO FOR IT!

BUT...To be Honest...I was giving myself a "Wedgie" with all the Pants-Hiking!

Thanks for the "Boot in the Butt!"....You're Right...sometimes it's NEEDED!

Ruben James

trumpador

You should be worried about dudamobile if you are just creating generic mobile sites and your clients want to be part of the pack.

If on the other hand, you and your clients want to stand apart, offer things of value over and above the pack then there's no need to worry.

If you position yourself as THE leader then there's little to worry about the competition. These guys are not even direct competition. Besides clients who perceive your services in the same light, probably are the wrong types of clients for your business.

As Donald Trump says, not everyone is cut out to be an entrepreneur (and there's nothing wrong with that). If your the type to stress about this stuff then have a think about getting a job. Only crazy/insane people would try entrepreneurship.

onlinevideoguy

Duba or no Duba I'm going for it and sell people sites that Duda couldnt come close to! I Kicked myself in the Ass! Now, Time to sell some sites and some Text Messaging! YEAH! And Thanx Will And Quentin for a reality check!!

olauno

Only reason I am getting into Mobile is because I have clients calling to take them mobile and social, clients don't have time to build freebie sites, social bookmark etc.. and my local web designers did not want to either so as quentin says stay out of the business more for the rest of us crazies doing mobile sites. JK take a shot at it and be your local guru. Fail forward Fast.

mezner

Exactly, same with "site builders" like 1&1. A lot of local businesses won't want a theme that anyone can get for $10 a month...

Mobileico

I am really not trying to step on anyone's toes here, but I think everyone should be worried when a service can give someone the option to do things themself, especially when they get National attention like this http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/bu...sq=gomo&st=cse. I understand that everyone has their own way of doing things, but when DudaMobile (not Duba) partners with Google and mobilizes over 400 websites in 2 days, that's only part of the over 150,000 sites that have been converted. They're 15 minutes in Mt.View from Google and the other big players in Silicon Valley and is headquartered in Israel. If you are in the numbers of over 100,000, you should consider them big competition. I consider the kid down the street as competition.

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Mobileico

I agree with Will. Wondering and not doing will get you no where.

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agonce

95% of the business owners dont know how to USE a website. How on earth would they know to SET UP all this crap that this website is offering. And most of them dont know about mobile websites, how would they FIND OUT about this website? Honestly, if someone did not post this on here, even myself who offers mobile sites to clients wouldn't had known about this website.
and by the way, the sites that this system creates are really crappy. so nothing to worry about

Techono

Hi (My 5 cents worth), "But my job has been taken by someone else. Now what do I do ?". "I know, make mobile sites" Some of you are forgetting that there are literally Thousands of businesses out there, all over the world, and MILLIONS of Mobile phone users. So, not all will be after a freebie site.
"Fear Not" said the Lord " I have brought you many mobile ideas"
You would be hard pressed to have "saturation" of Freebie Mobile sites, and the hosting too. (And maintenance ?)
There will always be some Smart person, that will have a WSO for the next big thing, or to add to the "now" trend, and it wont be expensive either.

So, "Don't worry, be happy!!!"

Thanks all you WSO Warriors out there.

Charles Harper

I believe that if all that you want to focus on is Mobile Websites, then I am not sure if that is going to remain a growing stream of cash indefinitely. I believe the key is integrating value added services that really make the customers money.

Mobile websites can and should be a foot in the door for more profitable opportunities. For instance, can you integrate their customer service with their website so that they are more responsive, without spending a lot off money to do it?

The answer is yes of course. When people say that mobile is not going anywhere, I think that is what they mean. There are lots of applications (small a) to a business to make it easier for a customer to buy and easy for the customer to be served.

CT

webass

I tried to partner/resell with the dudamobile and they didnt even think of answering my request on an fairly untapped market. So, no reply no business for them, I would say.


Although they mix up the market with their direct competition, like other bigger mobile creators on the go, a marketeer doesnt really have to care for generators like this. Even that they scrape the sites content and stuff like this, doesnt mean, that they will get that big, that every LBO will run to them. LBO's still have to look for a service like this.
So I guess when approaching fresh clients, they will anyway realize their needs for the first time.
And IMHO, this will stay for a longer time from today on.
Cheers.
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eyesocialize

Point blank the best way to approach this is to be the expert. Which the business owner is not. Yeah I can cut my own grass and landscape my own yard, but everybody and there Momma starts a Landscaping company in your neighborhood offering their services. My approach is simple, I am a Mobile Marketing Consultant. Keyword = Consultant. If a business tells me they have there site setup through Duda, then my job as a Consultant is to help them understand the power of mobile marketing etc. SMS, mobile apps, mobile sites. proximity marketing, NFC, Qr Codes and the list goes on. So increase your knowledge, don't be a salesman because that's what DudaMobile is being. Be the one that can produce results and create the WOW effect.

Eyesocialize

webass

How would You setup a proximity marketing campaign?
Is this kind of affordable for SBO's?
Do You need just a bluetooth dongle and a machine running it, and wait until people step in the shop to complaign, why anbody enters their mobile unasked (just kidding, though in my country this would happen in 75% the cases)?

Or do You need a provider for this?

Cheers.
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WillR

Andre,

I tested Bluetooth marketing last year. All you need is some bluetooth software such as BlueMagnet, FREE Bluetooth Advertising Software (Bluetooth Marketing Software/Proximity Marketing Software) to try that will help you attract more customers! and a bluetooth dongle. You can also get some antenna systems that will dramatically increase the range of your Bluetooth so you can cover a larger area with your message.

I tested it in a busy shopping mall and although we did pick up a lot of devices, very few people actually gave permission to receive the message. The way it works is it picks up those who have bluetooth enabled on their device and then sends them a message asking for permission to receive your marketing message. As you can imagine most people do not give permission to receive the message.

I think most people would be very wary about receiving or opening messages from people they don't know. All in all it is a cheap form of advertising, once you have things setup there are no ongoing costs, but for me it didn't have the bang I had hoped for.

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ElenaEn

Guys,

just don't worry about dudamobile:
1) most small businesses don't even know what a mobile website is.. what you do is sell them a mobile app (which is the mobile website, only with some plain-text instructions on how to "download" it to the home screen) - just send me a message if you want to see an example image we include with every "app".

2) dudamobile can fit the desktop site content into a 600px column. Big deal to us "marketers", and zero value to the small biz guy wants to see "candy"
3) small biz guys just don't like doing anything technical period - they just want to run their restaurant or salon, and they hire you to log into things and figure things out. : )

joecarson1

Walk into a business and ask the owner if they know what php file is....I saw a ufo once and I ran into a business owner who knew who dubamobile was.

Dexx

Some groups of Warriors are a funny bunch sometimes, especially for marketers...

Instead of looking for excuses why you CAN'T sell a service/solution, you should be looking at the opportunities that exist to get it into the hands of as many people as possible (especially mobile phone hands).

The same people who are asking "what business owner is going to pay for a service when they can go do it themselves once they find out it exists?" need to be instead asking "what can I do to make sure my clients NEVER want to leave me even AFTER they find out they can do it themselves?"

It's the same reason why some marketers are able to charge business hundreds of dollars to handle the uploading and optimization of YouTube videos for businesses...a service they COULD do themselves (or teach a staff member to do)

Will some business owners do it? Sure.

Other business owners barely know how to run their own windows machines without tech support.

Meh, to each their own, I just wish more Warriors didn't give up the minute the thought of potential competition / challenge creeped into their minds.

Guess it what separates the full-time marketers (who were able to actually leave their boring day jobs) from the hobby marketers (who buy countless WSOs and never see the results they hoped for)

If someone wanted to they could build a six figure (or higher) business with DudaMobile alone. Unfortunate that others would give up so easily.

~Dexx

Mobileico

You're smart Dexx Keep up the great work

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Huskerdarren

@Dexx

How are you selling mobile sites, Duda or otherwise? The creation is easy or can be learned easily enough.

It's the selling that we need help with.

ElenaEn

Listen to Dexx! He speaks truth!

There is lots that can be done that a business won't have the time for, or the how-to, or the creativity.

adi2010

Bravo ! You nailed it

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sunburn

Nice one Dexx!

Damielle

First of all let me say that I actually like the duda mobile service and see how smart marketers can make money selling it with their white label option.

That being said the sites that this service provides are not true mobile sites but the client's regular sites 'framed' to fit mobile devices. You can simply test one of their sites here to see what I mean.

Additionally as much as their service is quick, easy and popular, the average offline businessperson will probably never know about it. Even if they did they probably still won't use it because they are too busy running their business.

So its our responsibility to grasp this opportunity and offer mobile services to them because that's our business.

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ttrfanatic

I totally agree with Damielle. Most of my clients are purchasing my services because they don't want to hassle with having to deal with it themselves.

bonn

Duda mobile isn't anything new... there are still serious competitors out there for them like bmobilized and mobify etc.

harimon

Hello Helena

I understand you introduce the mobile site as an "app" and show them how to install the shortcut button on their mobile desktop.

Can you show how it is done?
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T1J2Marketing

Couldn't agree more with ttrfanatic! If every business owner took the time to utilize ALL the marketing opportunities available to him/her they wouldn't have time to run their business.

Duda is another one of those great services that only a certain number of people will take advantage of. Mainly because the business owners who "might" use their services are too BUSY running their business.

This is what provides us with OPPORTUNITY!

just my two cents worth...

adi2010

Let me add something to the latest discussion. I started W3C Mobile and App development course. Thanks to them it opened my eyes wider towards mobile websites. First of all I do care now to have HTML(5) and CSS(3) W3C Validated and so far so good. Furthermore, most of people and companies who let you build easy way and for free focus only on smartphones. W3C teach us not to refuse people who still use ordinary mobile phones. This will limit your potential as business owner too.
I give an example of my family business. I made first mobile site very easy without thinking about very tiny mobile market. Then my wife told me that most of people she deals with use ordinary phones, so please make possible for them to use it. Now I take care of it and make sure that the same page is good not only for 320,480, but also for 240 and less. It`s not just make it whatever and leave it, but one must think a little bit about design structure as well. If potential client or business owner wants free ride and target only smartphone users, than I`m fine with that. This is not my business after all. Besides, if he/she will be satisfied with only icons on his page, I`m fine too. Icons are not bad after all ;-) I don`t release any site without being sure that is 100% clean of errors according to W3C. Each mobile site I make I treat as I was a client.
The same is with products I promote. I own them and I know they are good.
Sorry for long writing, but it has been a while since I wrote something here.
Cheers

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Ralph Moore

Okay. You guys almost made me fry my Laptop with the mouthful of drink I had there.

The part I was reading was when someone said that Duda was something to worry about and that it was easy to use and that it creates awesome mobile sites.

Seriously? In my humble opinion, it is crap! Period.

I almost never mention my background but I have more experience with technology than most folks on this forum and I spent a few hours jacking around with the whole Duda mobile website thingy. What a joke.

I built a number of sites and not one of them functioned properly or was small enough to not be a major problem on a mobile device.

Their interface is clunky to say the least. And if you think most business owners are seriously going to spend ten minutes trying to figure how to use the the duda website, let alone what should be included in a mobile website for their business, think again.

They are just WAY too busy and too tired at the end of the day to even care. They want someone to DO IT FOR THEM.

And there's more.

I have used a lot of software over the years and I can tell you there is ALWAYS a trade off. If you try to make it super easy for people to use, you usually end up with bloated code or a semi-functional website, to say the least.

The older I get, the more willing I am to pay someone else to do things for me. And the funny thing is, the more people I pay to do those things, the more money I make as a result.

Now go sell some mobile sites.

One more thing, I have bought at least three mobile systems right here on the Warrior Forum and have test driven a few more and in my opinion, WillR has the best I have seen so far.

It is lightweight, compact, flexible and works very well for what it is intended to do.

The funny thing is, I am getting more requests for full-blown standard websites as a result of selling these little mobile sites.

Go figure.

adi2010

Thank you Ralph for your input. WoW! I didn`t know that Duda(e) is so bad. I know that there are many free rides but monthly charges are high, so nothing is free after all. I own WillR`s WSO too and I even sold sites based on it. However, I like to have control and I like to know things, first of all when I`m very interested in it. So, I started to make mobile sites from scratch by myself. I have a lot of satisfaction and of course control over design. If someting need to be changed, I know where to go. I still learn though.

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IngeniousBastard

Don't let anyone or anything stop you from doing what you want to do. No one will make things just like you would. Practice your skills, find your style and sell you ass off!

Lmr1

BEAUTIFUL! I agree 100%!!!!!!

hmbiv

I completely agree with all the WF wisdom on this. I'm new to this forum but I have been selling offline for years and the reality is this: you are not the only game in town! You never were and you never will be...in any market.

A good friend of mine sells insurance. Prop/cas. is hyper competitive right now. Three years ago he would have maybe one or two competitors on a large quote, say 1m plus in business. Now there are maybe half a dozen competitors on even the smaller quotes, say less than 100k. But he does well even when others are failing by sticking to his plan and believing in his success.

Provide service, be consistent ,do what you say when you say, and most definitely get out there, meet new biz owners, and find out what they could use in their business by asking the right question (leading the witness.... )

And then, of course, provide it.

Cheers, Harry

mojo1

I'm one of those who plan to make six figures with Dudamobile.

I'm a Dudamobile reseller who saw the writing on the wall and signed up with their reseller's program immediately after the national write up on a famous SEO blog back in late September '11.

I simply emailed them before their formal $199 reseller's program launched, made my case for why I would be a good reseller and was approved for their reseller's program for free after a few email exchanges with their Director of Marketing

I'm dating myself but remember a little book from the 90's called "Who Moved My Cheese"? Recognize opportunity and set yourself up to seize opportunity when it reveals itself.

KingMedia

Dupa is a cash cow. Clients will spend more money and have less control working with them and have to deal with their embedded ads unless they pop for the "custom" which is a joke.

It's our job to convince clients to work with US proving we can provide more value at less cost with more control for them.

nickhumph

The comments and thoughts in here are really useful!

Thanks to all the warriors inputting, really valuable for me!

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Michael William

I paid the $199 for the dudamobile reseller program and I do not regret it. I have made my money back many times over and am now finding out that I can upsell my duda clients on a better mobile site that I make them. I am in the process now of making squeeze pages to give away free (besides hosting) mobile sites using dudamobile then offering to upgrade them away from duda.

And if they don't upgrade? Oh well, I guess i just have to settle for a monthly hosting profit each month and offer them other services.

Don't fight them join em! Any new system I find for mobile I will incorporate into my business.

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