2015/16 Official NBA Thread

9 years ago

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Yeah, it is a much anticipated year. More so than any I can remember for any other season. Of course I say that every year

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

That a boy

Yeah, it is a much anticipated year. More so than any I can remember for any other season. Of course I say that every year

I just hope our two teams meet in the playoffs. That will be a great series!
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- discrat 9 years ago
  
  Harden still bitching and moaning about not being last year's MVP.
  
  The guy should move on. Maybe in some convoluted way he is doing this to elevate his game and give him motivation.
  
  Who knows.
  
  He wasn't far behind Curry last year but still have to say Curry deserved it
  
  James Harden is still angry he didn't win MVP last year - SBNation.com
  
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  That's ridiculous. Harden looks bad saying that crap. He says he is going to be better this year. He is going to have to if he wants to beat the Dubs or the Spurs who are clearly the two best teams in the league now. The Warriors are only going to be better this year and the Spurs should be right there with them. Harden should be thinking about the team, not individual awards.
  
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

How about the beef between Stephen A. Smith and Kevin Durant?

Stephen A. Smith Responds to Kevin Durant, Says Thunder Superstar Is 'Lying' | Bleacher Report

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

How about the beef between Stephen A. Smith and Kevin Durant?

Stephen A. Smith Responds to Kevin Durant, Says Thunder Superstar Is 'Lying' | Bleacher Report

Smith basically threats Durant at the end of his ridiculous rant. He needs to just shut up. Durant is showing more maturity and restraint at this point, although he could have expressed himself better.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Another guy with sour grapes and not willing still to give the Warriors credit is Doc Rivers. That's ok, this stuff will only motivate the Warriors to prove last year wasn't "luck" or a fluke. By the way, we beat the Clippers 3 out 4 during the regular season.

"You need luck in the West," Rivers recently told Zach Lowe of Grantland.com. "Look at Golden State. They didn't have to play us or the Spurs. But that's also a lesson for us: When you have a chance to close, you have to do it."

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

My Lakers now have a new big man who's pretty good - Center Roy Hibbert!

Let's see, Durant plays out is deal with the Thunder and joins the Lakers next season!

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Kurt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

How about the beef between Stephen A. Smith and Kevin Durant?

Stephen A. Smith Responds to Kevin Durant, Says Thunder Superstar Is 'Lying' | Bleacher Report

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Smith basically threats Durant at the end of his ridiculous rant. He needs to just shut up. Durant is showing more maturity and restraint at this point, although he could have expressed himself better.

I can't stand Smith or his partner Skippy Clueless. Both are nothing but egotistical antagonists.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Derick Fisher is dating Matt Barnes estranged wife who has filed for divorce. Derick has filed for divorce from his wife also.

Reportedly, Matt confronted Derick at a barbecue and the two got physical.

Matt Barnes drove 95 miles to ‘beat the s–t’ out of Derek Fisher | New York Post

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Derick Fisher is dating Matt Barnes estranged wife who has filed for divorce. Derick has filed for divorce from his wife also.

Reportedly, Matt confronted Derick at a barbecue and the two got physical.

Matt Barnes drove 95 miles to 'beat the s-t' out of Derek Fisher | New York Post

That's a crazy story. I used to go to a sports bar once in a while in Oakland. It was owned by the father of Gloria Govan, Barnes' ex-wife. She's from Oakland, is a beauty and um.. looks good from the side in this photo:

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discrat 9 years ago

Yeah I might drive 95 miles for her as well LOL
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Thabo Sefolosha Found Not Guilty On All Three Counts

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Klay Thompson responds to Doc Rivers dumb comments:

"If we got lucky, look at our record against them last year. I'm pretty sure we smacked them."

"Didn't they lose to the Rockets? Exactly. So haha. That just makes me laugh. That's funny. Weren't they up 3-1 too?"

"I wanted to play the Clippers last year, but they couldn't handle their business"

Even Andrew Bogut got in on the fun: "I've got my ring fitted for my middle finger"

LOl. I love it. It's going to be a fun year.

Klay Thompson dumped a whole can of gasoline on the Warriors-Clippers rivalry - SBNation.com
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Lamar Odom Reportedly 'Fighting For His Life' After Collapsing In Brothel

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Lamar Odom Reportedly 'Fighting For His Life' After Collapsing In Brothel

It doesn't sound good for Lamar.
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Kurt

9 years ago

Here's hoping for the best for Lamar...

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Lamar Odom Reportedly Emerges From Coma

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

I hear Lamar Odom had two emergency surgeries yesterday, after improving for a few days.

Back to BB and the upcoming season. My Warriors have had a fairly unimpressive preseason, looking lethargic, not in sync and uninspired. I was a bit worried but after last night's game I think all is well. They looked very sharp.

By the way Robert, I'm talking to this sexy lady who lives in San Antonio who is a big Spurs fan. We're talking about meeting there for a Spurs/Warriors game and having a bet on the game, (:p) tour the city and spend the weekend together. If you want to have a drink while I am there let me know. I've never been to SA by the way.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Minnesota coach Flip Saunders dies of cancer

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/13...-cancer-age-60
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- Mike Anthony 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by TimPhelan
  
  Minnesota coach Flip Saunders dies of cancer
  
  Minnesota Timberwolves coach Flip Saunders dies of cancer at age 60
  
  this was a real bummer and a shocker. I remember feeling relieved when the doctors said it was treatable and curable. Technically they will say its the cancer but in reality it was the chemo he took that did him in - lowered his immune system, he got pneumonia and died.
  
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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I hear Lamar Odom had two emergency surgeries yesterday, after improving for a few days.

Back to BB and the upcoming season. My Warriors have had a fairly unimpressive preseason, looking lethargic, not in sync and uninspired. I was a bit worried but after last night's game I think all is well. They looked very sharp.

By the way Robert, I'm talking to this sexy lady who lives in San Antonio who is a big Spurs fan. We're talking about meeting there for a Spurs/Warriors game and having a bet on the game, (:p) tour the city and spend the weekend together. If you want to have a drink while I am there let me know. I've never been to SA by the way.

Cool Tim. Contrary to what Charles Barkley says about SA women, there are some pretty hot ones here, particularly some hot senoritas ( And I was fortunate enough to marry one

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Give me a PM or something. I know in November I will be gone to Knoxville for a couple of weeks for some family business.

But if Im around that would be cool to catch a beer or something

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Kurt

9 years ago

I think my Nuggets will be slightly improved this year, mostly because Galinari should be healty. He really came on strong at the end of last season after missing almost two years with a knee injury.

Plus Brian Shaw is gone and there was some real problems in the locker room last season between him and the team. Having Shaw gone should is another reason we should be a little better.

Mudiay should be a great addition, but expecting him to be better as a rookie than Ty Lawson was, is asking a little too much. There's also a couple of young Europeans that have looked pretty good in preseason.

We've been really banged up in preseason, which has hurt our performance as of late, but nothing serious and should get healthy soon.

I doubt we'll make the playoffs, but shouldn't be an easy win for other teams. There's really not much hope, but we do have 4 first round draft picks in next year's draft. Plus we have the option to swap picks with the Knicks. I'll be rooting really hard against the Knicks all year long.

Hopefully, we can get a high pick from the Knicks and maybe use the other 3 picks to package and trade up to grab another franchise type player to go with Mudiay.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

I saw Mudiay play a bit in preseason and was impressed. He's someone to build a team around.
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Kurt

9 years ago

Break up the Nuggets! Good win...beating Houston by 20 in Houston. I think it's important for this team to get some wins early to build confidence.

Mudiay looked good, except for 11 turnovers. He's had issues with TOs in the preseason. But other than that, he looked good and actually outplayed Ty Lawson IMO.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Break up the Nuggets! Good win...beating Houston by 20 in Houston. I think it's important for this team to get some wins early to build confidence.

Mudiay looked good, except for 11 turnovers. He's had issues with TOs in the preseason. But other than that, he looked good and actually outplayed Ty Lawson IMO.

Good win for you guys. Looking at the box score your defense was impressive. Malone had a big part to do with the Warriors defense improving so much under Mark Jackson. If he can do the same with the Nuggets they will be tough.

Mudiays turnovers are a concern but we went through the same thing with Curry until last year. Lebron, Westbrook, Curry, Harden .... all have high turnover numbers. It's just a matter of managing it better.

I just love seeing Houston lose though, so yay Nuggets!

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Kurt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Good win for you guys. Looking at the box score your defense was impressive. Malone had a big part to do with the Warriors defense improving so much under Mark Jackson. If he can do the same with the Nuggets they will be tough.

Mudiays turnovers are a concern but we went through the same thing with Curry until last year. Lebron, Westbrook, Curry, Harden .... all have high turnover numbers. It's just a matter of managing it better.

I just love seeing Houston lose though, so yay Nuggets!

It's like all the planets and stars are aligned again. It's the time of the year for both football and basketball.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

It's like all the planets and stars are aligned again. It's the time of the year for both football and basketball.

Well, at least you can enjoy both. Lol

By the way, that Spurs Thunder game was terrific! Only the 2nd time Tim Duncan has lost an opening season game in 20 years. And it was interesting to see the Cavs easily beat Memphis in Memphis after losing the night before in Chicago.

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Kurt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Well, at least you can enjoy both. Lol

By the way, that Spurs Thunder game was terrific! Only the 2nd time Tim Duncan has lost an opening season game in 20 years. And it was interesting to see the Cavs easily beat Memphis in Memphis after losing the night before in Chicago.

At least I can enjoy the Nuggets season for a game. Don't forget the 49ers looked pretty good their first game too.

BTW, I thought I saw that Steph Curry has a category on Jeopardy tonight. (?)

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discrat 9 years ago

Wow, Nuggets have a great win. Looks like Harden is not living up to his self proclaimed MVP going 6-21 from the field LOL

Yeah, I thought the Spurs were going to take this one in the 4th but they couldn't hang on.

Even though it was a lost, they looked miles ahead where I thought they would be the first game.

I saw some promising basketball with Aldridge, West, and how they integrated with the team and the flow they are starting to show as a team

I will tell you what it will be interesting as the Season goes to see if these guys can keep improving the flow and chemistry.

If they do, it will be Warriors and Spurs in Conference Finals.

But who knows maybe Nuggets can do something special as well
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- TimPhelan 9 years ago
  
  I'm looking forward to the Warriors/Rockets game tonight in Houston. It will be interesting to see how Curry and Harden play after the MVP remarks a few weeks back.
  
  By the way, Coach Gentry told Anthony Davis to shoot more threes this year and in the last game he went 3 for 5 in threes. Apparently he isn't the only big who will be shooting more threes, in the last Kings game Demarkus Cousins went 4 for 5 on threes! Hell, even Ricky Rubio made a few threes the last game while scoring 28 points. Weird stuff going on.
  
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Kurt

9 years ago

Go Broncos!

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Go Broncos!

Lol. Bad shooting night for the Nuggets.

Houston, we have a problem. The Rockets are playing terrible. The warriors just totally out played them and shut them down with their defense. Two straight blowout losses at home and honestly, the Warriors didn't play great on offense. It could have been much much worse.

The Rockets problem? I think it's the Kardashian effect. Harden is dating a Kardashian and that is the kiss of death for an NBA player. ( no pun intended )

What a game between the Magic and the Thunder!

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Lol. Bad shooting night for the Nuggets.

Houston, we have a problem. The Rockets are playing terrible. The warriors just totally out played them and shut them down with their defense. Two straight blowout losses at home and honestly, the Warriors didn't play great on offense. It could have been much much worse.

The Rockets problem? I think it's the Kardashian effect. Harden is dating a Kardashian and that is the kiss of death for an NBA player. ( no pun intended )

What a game between the Magic and the Thunder!

Not taking anything away from Warriors and Nuggets wins but you're right the Rockets looked horrendous. Harden is looking like an idiot for talking so arrogant in Preseason. Karma is a bitch

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TopTier Profits 9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

The Rockets problem? I think it's the Kardashian effect. Harden is dating a Kardashian and that is the kiss of death for an NBA player. ( no pun intended )

Based God cursed him....again.
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  Steph Curry gets 53 in win over Pelicans. And believe it or not the Pelicans were playing good D. I thought Curry was being more aggressive in preseason. I was thinking he could score at will and with the new aggressiveness he could increase his scoring average significantly. I see him averaging around 30 or more this year.
  
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9 years ago

I don't know why but I've got a feeling Curry will get hurt this season.

Lakers suck...again. What's new lol.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Warriors beat Memphis by 50! They decided to step up their d and it was impressive. Bring on the Clippers Wednesday.
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- discrat 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by TimPhelan
  
  Warriors beat Memphis by 50! They decided to step up their d and it was impressive. Bring on the Clippers Wednesday.
  
  You heard it first here : Warriors first team to get 80 wins in regular season
  
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  Originally Posted by discrat
  
  You heard it first here : Warriors first team to get 80 wins in regular season
  
  Not sure about 80 but reaching the Bulls 72 wins looks possible. Let's see how they do against your Spurs though. So far it looks like Curry, Green, Ezeli have improved noticeably while the rest are as good as last year or slightly better. Well, Klay is off to a slow start.
  
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- Kurt 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by TimPhelan
  
  Warriors beat Memphis by 50! They decided to step up their d and it was impressive. Bring on the Clippers Wednesday.
  
  Don't get cocky. The only reason you won by 50 is because you didn't play my Nuggets. When you do play us, you'll probably win by 75.
  
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Willyfito

9 years ago

HEAT vs ROCKET Amazing game yesterday

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Stephen Curry

Dribble drills!!

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Stephen Curry

Dribble drills!!

Welcome back TL! That is a crazy workout isn't it. Here's another look at what he goes through:

Stephen Curry Works Hard to Stay On Top of His...

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9 years ago

Yep ,incredible hand eye coordination

STEPHEN CURRY \| PRE-GAME BALL-HANDLING WARMUP -...

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Some surprises so far this season.

In the East the Knicks look pretty decent and their #1 pick Porzingis looks like he is going to be a very good player and help the Knicks right away. Detroit looks very improved. The Hawks are still playing very well after many expected them to fall off from last years 60 plus win season. The Heat are playing excellent also, which maybe isn't a surprise.

In the West, the Jazz and the Timberwolves look like they can make the playoffs this year. The Pelicans, who I thought would be a top team, have had major problems getting going caused by injuries and sub par play by Davis. The Grizzlies are struggling and may not make the playoffs.

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Kurt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Some surprises so far this season.

In the East the Knicks look pretty decent and their #1 pick Porzingis looks like he is going to be a very good player and help the Knicks right away. Detroit looks very improved. The Hawks are still playing very well after many expected them to fall off from last years 60 plus win season. The Heat are playing excellent also, which maybe isn't a surprise.

In the West, the Jazz and the Timberwolves look like they can make the playoffs this year. The Pelicans, who I thought would be a top team, have had major problems getting going caused by injuries and sub par play by Davis. The Grizzlies are struggling and may not make the playoffs.

Maybe not this year, but the team that looks stacked for the future is the TWolves. Towns, Wiggins and LeVine are scary talented. Barring injuries, I think in a couple of years they'll be in the hunt for championships.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Maybe not this year, but the team that looks stacked for the future is the TWolves. Towns, Wiggins and LeVine are scary talented. Barring injuries, I think in a couple of years they'll be in the hunt for championships.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing them tonight when the Warriors visit them. The Warriors will be going after a 10-0 start and are playing tough defense but will be in the 2nd game of a back to back. Hopefully Wiggins and Rubio will play tonight.

Btw, I loved seeing the Clippers lose in Dallas last night.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Here's an interesting breakdown of how the Warriors are taking advantage of teams double teaming Curry and creating half court 4 on 3 opportunities, in most cases it's Green who is the guy getting assists from these situations. Green leads the Warriors in assists currently, while Curry leads the league in what is called the hockey assist, the secondary assists.

NBA: How the Golden State Warriors use fear of Stephen Curry as a weapon

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

What happened to Robert's post saying the Warriors will win 81? lol I saw that Robert.

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

What happened to Robert's post saying the Warriors will win 81? lol I saw that Robert.

LOL. I can't let you get too cocky and also I didn't want to put too much pressure on you and your boys

Okay 81-1 with a loss to SA at SA. There I said it

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Well, the Warriors almost lost to the Nets at home, so they could lose to anyone really. They just looked terrible for much of the game. It's funny, when Curry has a bad quarter or half I feel he's doing it on purpose. Lol. Just to test his teammates or make the game more interesting.

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Well, the Warriors almost lost to the Nets at home, so they could lose to anyone really. They just looked terrible for much of the game. It's funny, when Curry has a bad quarter or half I feel he's doing it on purpose. Lol. Just to test his teammates or make the game more interesting.

Yep you guys are fortunate to pull that one out. You would have had to go 71-0 to meet my predictions if it didnt go your way last night

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Dubs squeak out another win against a very good Toronto team. The perfect season continues. Next up the Clippers and then the Bulls. Curry, looking off a good portion of the game, scores 37.

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discrat

9 years ago

McHale got fired today by Rockets. Too bad, he always seemed like a good guy

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

McHale got fired today by Rockets. Too bad, he always seemed like a good guy

I don't think coaching is the problem. Howard is inconsistent and Harden messed the team up by dating a Kardashian. Lol. Harden is not having as good a year as last year and frankly, I don't like his game. They don't have a lot of depth and the good players they have are under performing.

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Kurt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

McHale got fired today by Rockets. Too bad, he always seemed like a good guy

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I don't think coaching is the problem. Howard is inconsistent and Harden messed the team up by dating a Kardashian. Lol. Harden is not having as good a year as last year and frankly, I don't like his game. They don't have a lot of depth and the good players they have are under performing.

Houston's interim coach, JB Bickerstaff went to the same high school in Denver I did. He's Bernie's son, who was coaching the Nuggets a the time.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Houston's interim coach, JB Bickerstaff went to the same high school in Denver I did. He's Bernie's son, who was coaching the Nuggets a the time.

Yeah, I remember Bernie. He coached quite a while. I think his best teams were with Seattle.

The way the Pelicans are going Alvin Gentry might be next, although they have had a bunch of injuries.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Yeah, I remember Bernie. He coached quite a while. I think his best teams were with Seattle.

The way the Pelicans are going Alvin Gentry might be next, although they have had a bunch of injuries.

Bernie's best teams sure weren't in Denver.

We whipped up on the Pels last night. The Brow left the game early with a shoulder injury and didn't return.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

What a game tonight. Warriors start out slow, Curry and Green get two fouls in the opening minutes and have to sit, the Clippers are blazing hot and take a 23 point lead early in the 2nd. But the Warriors chip away and finish strong to rip the hearts out of the Clippers! Lol. Curry, plays bad a good portion of the game and still scores 40. Crazy year so far.
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- discrat 9 years ago
  
  Spurs looked terrible. But give credit to Pelicans. They are better than a 1-10 team. Their dribble penetration was unstoppable last night. Davis is back and this team will make the Playoffs, I predict.
  It might be hard to recover terrible start but I think they will.
  
  Warriors squeak by. Strong finish, I caught the end of it. Curry usual self and comes thru in pressure
  
  Major drama tomorrow night. Let's set the Stage
  ... Warriors will be going to tie the record at 15-0.
  But Kurt's Nuggets are in the way and its a home game for them. Although they slipped last night, the Nuggets seem to be a legit team this year.
  
  This will be a fun game
  
  I'm sure Tim and Kurt will be getting nervous leading up to game time. Me ?? I'm glad I can just sit back and enjoy it with a nice cold beer
  
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  Originally Posted by discrat
  
  Davis is back and this team will make the Playoffs, I predict.
  It might be hard to recover terrible start but I think they will.
  
  It's going to be tough for the Pelicans to make the playoffs now. There's so many good teams to pass in the West. Heck, even Sacramento is playing well now with Rondo and Cousins playing great ball. I thought the Pelicans would be in the top 4 in the west but the injuries have hurt them. Plus having a new coach sometimes takes time to adjust.
  
  Yeah, looking forward to seeing tomorrow'sgame against the Nuggets. I don't expect an easy game that's for sure, especially after the last 4.
  
  Speaking of new coaches, I really like how Holberg has Chicago playing. The offense looks much better and their defense is still very tough.
  
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  discrat 9 years ago
  
  I was at Six Flags all day and DVRed the game but wife accidentally deleted it.
  
  It look like Warriors are still on pace to 81-1 as well as beating the record and hitting 16-0
  
  I can't see Lakers pulling it out in Oakland. No way.
  
  So early congrats Tim... and sorry TL. There's not even a remote chance
  
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  It was a pretty sloppy game Robert but was close most of the way. You never know about the next game, the Lakers could play a great game, although they haven't been playing well this year. By the way, I don't think TL is into the nba much these days. Lol
  
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9 years ago

Well, Kobe called it quits today.

Wow, what a career. One of the best ever. At his peak, as good as Lebron or anyone for that matter.
Rightfully, right up there with Jordan , imo.

TL you had a great one for a long time. Even though I aint a Lakers fan , feeling a little sentimental right now.

The end of an Era
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ba...002119502.html

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Well, Kobe called it quits today.

Wow, what a career. One of the best ever. At his peak, as good as Lebron or anyone for that matter.
Rightfully, right up there with Jordan , imo.

TL you had a great one for a long time. Even though I aint a Lakers fan , feeling a little sentimental right now.

The end of an Era
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ba...002119502.html

Thanks D.

Kobe will go down as one if not the greatest Laker of all time. I thank him for his contributions to the Laker legacy and wish him well in his basketball after life.

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Kurt

9 years ago

PS...As of right now, the Nuggets are actually tied for first place in the division with OKC.

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discrat 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

PS...As of right now, the Nuggets are actually tied for first place in the division with OKC.

Yeah, ought to be a good game tonight
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- Kurt 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by discrat
  
  Yeah, ought to be a good game tonight
  
  I just hope the Nuggets can stay within about 15. This is the second game of back to back road games and I just don't see us doing well enough to win against the Spurs.
  
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Tim, I just found out your Warriors are UN-defeated at 15-0.

Congrats are in order.

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discrat 9 years ago

King James getting a little Jelly. Recently, said it would be really impressive if Warriors went 15-0 without Curry

LeBron James: Warriors are ‘most healthy team I’ve ever seen in NBA history’ | ProBasketballTalk

Kind of ironic..... i.e wonder if the Cavs would have even made the Playoffs last year without him lol
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- TimPhelan 9 years ago
  
  Yeah, Lebron's hating all the talk about the Warriors and Curry. There are many well respected people saying Curry is the best player now. Period. Plus, people are comparing the Warriors to all time great teams such as the 94 Bulls. Pat Riley said they could be Dynastic and compared Curry and Thompson to his old teammates from the 72 Lakers who won 33 in a row, Jerry West and Gail Goodrich.
  
  Interesting interview on espn.Com where Steve Kerr talks about who would win in a hypothetical metting between the 94 Bulls team that he played on and this warrior team that he coaches.
  
  He imagines it would end with Curry taking a step back three over Michael Jordan.
  
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9 years ago

Are my 76ers not getting any love out here?

What do you guys think will come first? A 76er win or a Warrior loss?

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Good question. Lol Hey, they have come close the past two games. Okafor had a big game tonight and from the stats it seems he out played Towns.
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  Well, the Dubs have a few steaks going: the 16 game win streak to start a season and a 20 game regular season win streak. Three more wins and they will have the third longest winning streak behind only the Heat at 27 and the 72 Lakers at 33. There's a good chance it will end soon because they play 8 of the next 9 on the road. However, if they can make it past the road trip without losing they have a good chance to reach 32. If they get to that point they will be playing the Cavs on Xmas day to tie the 33 win record.
  
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  WHOA! Nice! I still do believe that the Dubs should not go for the record in order to preserve their helath for a good run in the playoffs. Spurs will be a handful for them too.
  
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9 years ago

Video Appears To Show 76er Jahlil Okafor In Street Fight

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Video Appears To Show 76er Jahlil Okafor In Street Fight

Doesn't look good for Okafor but I only saw him push one guy to the ground with several other guys coming at him, one looked to be close to his size.

The poor sixer fans!

BTW, Draymond Green flew out to Michigan on Thanksgiving so he could see his Alma Mater Michigan State play and especially to see his ex coach Tom Izzo get his 500th win. Green gave Izzo a Rolex watch after the win and reportedly Izzo was very moved by the gesture. This summer Green also donated $3.1 million to the MU athletic department. Green played a full four years at MU and has repeatedly said how grateful he is to Izzo and the school. Classy guy, even though he can be mouthy at times! lol
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9 years ago

Philly finally won a game! Too bad it's against Kobe.

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9 years ago

Lakers and 76ers in a race for the rights to draft Ben Simmons. Hopefully my Nuggets can sneak in somehow with some lottery luck.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Lakers and 76ers in a race for the rights to draft Ben Simmons. Hopefully my Nuggets can sneak in somehow with some lottery luck.

Simmons update...he's averaging 19, 13 and 6...not bad for a true freshman. I think he's from Australia?

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Great game tonight, Dubs win in OT over a tough determined Denver team. Curry doesn’t play in 2nd half but they get some great play from Draymond Green, who got his second triple double in a row and an nba leading 6th of the season.

Hated seeing Farried get hurt in the final minute. Hope he's ok.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Great game tonight, Dubs win in OT over a tough determined Denver team. Curry doesn’t play in 2nd half but they get some great play from Draymond Green, who got his second triple double in a row and an nba leading 6th of the season.

Hated seeing Farried get hurt in the final minute. Hope he's ok.

Dubs got almost caught looking too far ahead to Jan. 25th

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Originally Posted by discrat

Dubs got almost caught looking to far ahead to Jan. 25th

Lol. Not really, they are just currently pretty beat up. Started the game with 9 players and went into overtime with just 7 available!
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Wow!

We lost to the team that had the longest losing streak in U.S. pro sports history - 28 games.

Can we please find a quality draft pick out of all this misery?

Mitch Kupchak the ball is in your court.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

I saw the end of that game and the crowd was really excited about getting a win finally, but after the game was over they started chanting "Kobe. Kobe." Then all the 6er players came over to give their respects to Kobe. Kind of a nice scene. Kobe had some extra words for Okafor.
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Wow!

We lost to the team that had the longest losing streak in U.S. pro sports history - 28 games.

Can we please find a quality draft pick out of all this misery?

Mitch Kupchak the ball is in your court.

How about after the season, the Lakers hire Luke Walton as head coach and get Jerry West as Kupchak's right hand man, in charge of the draft?

Not only would this help strengthen the Lakers, it would weaken the Ws at the same time. Plus, they're both Lakers.

IMO, Jerry West has proven he's the best judge of talent in NBA history. He's done it time and time again.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

How about after the season, the Lakers hire Luke Walton as head coach and get Jerry West as Kupchak's right hand man, in charge of the draft?

Not only would this help strengthen the Lakers, it would weaken the Ws at the same time. Plus, they're both Lakers.

IMO, Jerry West has proven he's the best judge of talent in NBA history. He's done it time and time again.

Booo. Hisss. Lol

RADIO SHOW HOST:

Would you ever consider going back to the Lakers if you were asked?

JERRY WEST:

Well, you know, first of all, I wouldn't be asked to go back there, OK. That would not happen.

RADIO SHOW HOST:

Why not?

JERRY WEST:

Well, it just wouldn't happen. Trust me. I think I'm really content up there with the Warriors. I love the people there. It's fun to be around.

I can see Walton being the Lakers coach though. Walton will be a great choice too!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Booo. Hisss. Lol

I can see Walton being the Lakers coach though. Walton will be a great choice too!

Okay, I was not gonna say a damn thing Tim until you mentioned this above. I was gonna keep my big mouth shut. LOL

But to be honest I have never thought much of Walton. He cannot hold a flame to Kerr or Jackson imo.

Why in God's name they made him interim coach for Warriors I will never know ??

The Warriors have won 19 in a row because they are a damn good team.

I don't think any of that can be attributed to Walton.

Walton has been given gifts, not based on results, but based on his name.

First it was a $30 million dollar contract with Lakers for his mediocre play years ago

And now UNBELIEVABLY he was given the reigns to one of the best teams in history

Sorry Tim to me that was unbelievable.

Like I said I was to remain silent about it until you mentioned this above

You know how sensitive I can be towards some individuals

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Okay, I was not gonna say a damn thing Tim until you mentioned this above. I was gonna keep my big mouth shut. LOL

But to be honest I have never thought much of Walton. He cannot hold a flame to Kerr or Jackson imo.

Why in God's name they made him interim coach for Warriors I will never know ??

The Warriors have won 19 in a row because they are a damn good team.

I don't think any of that can be attributed to Walton.

Walton has been given gifts, not based on results, but based on his name.

First it was a $30 million dollar contract with Lakers for his mediocre play years ago

And now UNBELIEVABLY he was given the reigns to one of the best teams in history

Sorry Tim to me that was unbelievable.

Like I said I was to remain silent about it until you mentioned this above

You know how sensitive I can be towards some individuals

Who do you think should be the Lakers' coach? Paul Westhead?

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Who do you think should be the Lakers' coach? Paul Westhead?

TL , would be my first choice. He has the heart to 'liberate' this time from mediocrity

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

TL , would be my first choice. He has the heart to 'liberate' this time from mediocrity

Very funny!

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discrat

9 years ago

I hate to rub it in but I must say it is refreshing to see someone have the limelight besides Lebron who for the last dozen or so years we have incessantly been bombarded with "the Chose One" or "King James" wherever we look.

He will never be totally irrelevant but he is becoming less and less relevant with every game he plays and every game the Warriors play and Curry plays.

Honestly, with the advent of Curry's play I think "King James" is miffed and beside himself.

Not being the center of the universe is something totally new for him. And this kills him ! He better get good at acting in hollywood lol

Curry is doing something that James and really no one has done before.

I'm loving it UNTIL we play Curry lol

But until then "the King" has fallen and I hate to say it but I'm not feeling even remotely sad

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lebron...211950015.html

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discrat 9 years ago

Here's Steph before there was Steph. ( well maybe not quite )

But the best College basketball player I ever saw. Bar none !! I was at this game as a student in 1990 at Thompson Boling arena

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

I hate to rub it in but I must say it is refreshing to see someone have the limelight besides Lebron who for the last dozen or so years we have incessantly been bombarded with "the Chose One" or "King James" wherever we look.

He will never be totally irrelevant but he is becoming less and less relevant with every game he plays and every game the Warriors play and Curry plays.

Honestly, with the advent of Curry's play I think "King James" is miffed and beside himself.

Not being the center of the universe is something totally new for him. And this kills him ! He better get good at acting in hollywood lol

Curry is doing something that James and really no one has done before.

I'm loving it UNTIL we play Curry lol

But until then "the King" has fallen and I hate to say it but I'm not feeling even remotely sad

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lebron...211950015.html

I agree.

The Cavs got beat last night by the Pelicans. I looked at the upcoming schedule for the Cavs and I expect them to get several more loses in December. They just aren't that deep and James is putting in way too many minutes already this season and he already seems to be declining at just 30 years of age. Still a great player but not the same as he was. One thing that bugs me about him is he blames his team mates too much. You never hear Curry do something like that. If the Warriors lose he says "we" didn't play well or "we" must improve.

By the way, the Eastern Conference is looking much improved this year, even if the Cavs don't. Indiana is playing really well behind Paul George, Chicago is improved, Miami is better and there are 11 teams at .500 or better including a much improved Knicks team. In the West, the Warriors and the Spurs are the best by far but the Thunder, Grizzlies and Rockets have not played nearly as well and there are only 6 teams at .500 or above. The tide has finally turned it seems so far, although the two best teams are in the West.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

. One thing that bugs me about him is he blames his team mates too much. You never hear Curry do something like that. If the Warriors lose he says "we" didn't play well or "we" must improve.

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Yep, here he is with more dirty laundry and finger pointing

LeBron James, David Blatt call out Cavs; J.R. Smith responds | Yardbarker.com

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Originally Posted by discrat

Yep, here he is with more dirty laundry and finger pointing

LeBron James, David Blatt call out Cavs; J.R. Smith responds | Yardbarker.com

Two quotes from that article:

LeBron when asked about taking over in 4Q: "Who else was going to do it?"

J.R. Smith laughed when told Blatt thinks LeBron needs more help. "I mean, I had 15 in the first. I don't know what else you want me to do"
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  Great game last night against the Raptors. Close the whole way and Lowry had a career high. Curry, whose dad played his last three years in Toronto, is familiar with the arena and always has good games there. He had 44 last night including something new I haven't seen from him before. He's running down court and comes to skidding stop kind of like the road runner cartoons and drains a three. I'll have to find a video of that shot. How do you guard that? lol
  
  Here's Curry and his brother shooting in the Toronto arena when he was a kid:
  
  Stephen Curry Playing as a Young Kid | Raptors vs...
  
  Here's that shot I mentioned. In another angle at slow motion you can see his foot skidding to a stop. Here's full speed:
  
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Dubs playing like they truly believe they can win every game. Looking forward to the Christmas Game Finals Rematch.
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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Sorry Tim to me that was unbelievable.

Like I said I was to remain silent about it until you mentioned this above

It doesn't bother me at all. I was surprised they had him be the interim coach also, but Gentry is gone and Ron Adams probably wasn't interested. Adams is a great defensive coach but hasn't been a head coach in over 25 years. Walton has impressed me though as the interim coach. Granted he has the Champs who don't need much guidance or motivation, but he has done well in keeping things moving, he understands the game and has a great demeanor to be an NBA coach. Kerr, is still very much involved though. I have a feeling Kerr would be back already but doesn't want to come back during the winning streak.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

So Curry had 12 at half time tonight. He wasn't really looking for his shot much but was very efficient shooting at 4 for 6 I think. In the third quarter he continued in the same way but started driving more when the lane was open. Suddenly he put together a scoring streak for the team. 8 points in a row. 14 in a row. 18 in a row. He ended up scoring 24 points in row for the Warriors and getting 28 in the quarter seemingly effortlessly, putting the game out of reach. He sat the 4th quarter. 40 points in 31 minutes. 14 for 18 shooting! 8 for 11 in 3 points!

The best player in the world? Well, he ain't in Cleveland anymore.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

The best player in the world? Well, he ain't in Cleveland anymore.

I am no lebron Hater but I have never been that impressed with his game as a spectator. I give that he was the best for many years but he relied more on bulling his way to the basket rather than artistry. its not all about the stats. Mj's drives to the basket were a thing of beauty and dance. Kobe as well (though to me not quite to the level of MJ), Magic made you think he really had eyes in the back of his head. Curry shows some of that in his passing that makes you go - "rewind - how did he do that?".

This is probably why Lebron will fade so fast - skill can be maintained longer than physicality

Still curry has to show that level of play on the big stage before he gets the mantle. They won last year but i was really surprised by how ordinary Curry looked several times in the finals. probably just first time jitters but we will see.

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discrat 9 years ago

MA back. I thought you were MIA permanently.

Good to see back . Been boring around here without someone else besides me pestering the OT regulars
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  MA back. I thought you were MIA permanently.
  
  Good to see back . Been boring around here without someone else besides me pestering the OT regulars
  
  Lol.....too busy right now to bother with that. Someone did object to my not taking the idea too nicely that you can sling and slam dunk (keeping it basketball related ) teenagers in a class room over them trying to keep their phones but besides that yep been busy. Looking forward to a week off during christmas. Hopefully catch some good games. Haven't watched an entire game from start to finish this season yet.
  
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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Still curry has to show that level of play on the big stage before he gets the mantle. They won last year but i was really surprised by how ordinary Curry looked several times in the finals. probably just first time jitters but we will see.

I think the whole team was a bit nervous and off their game in the first three games except for Iggy. That move by Kerr to start Iguodala in game 4 kind of forced them to play their game and the series was over after that.

Last year Curry would have a bad game here and there. This year he's stepped it up to another level. I don't think he's had one bad game really. There have been some games where he simply let's the other players take the shots more than normal but he's been very consistent this year besides being amazing. There's talk about him getting the MVP and most improved player, which has never been done before.

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9 years ago

Well, you know, first of all, I wouldn’t be asked to go back there, OK. That would not happen.

The Lakers should kiss his butt, apologize(even if it was Jerry's fault), ask him, then make him a deal he can't refuse.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

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discrat 9 years ago

Wow, didn't even know he was Mayor.

I have not looked into this Story and the past history. But when ANYONE pays of $230K to keep a potential victim " Hush" it really makes me wonder about the innocence or guiltiness of that person.

It seems people of power can sometimes have a " God" complex. And since they have the Resources
( money, good attorneys) they feel they can indulge in their deviant manners without feeling any potential consequences.

Really sad
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9 years ago

23-0!!!!

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9 years ago

TL and his Lakers and their 33 regular season record remains intact. I thought the Warriors were going to get it for sure.

Meanwhile my Spurs hold a decent Hawks team to 25 points in first half ! 25 points

Kawhi ,the best defensive player in the NBA, is just aching to reel Curry and the Dubs in , Tim.

Seriously though congrats to the Dubs. They had one of the greatest Streaks ever accomplished in Sports history .
People will be talking about this for many many years. What a run

In a way, I bet their relieved to get this monkey off their backs

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

TL and his Lakers and their 33 regular season record remains intact. I thought the Warriors were going to get it for sure.

Meanwhile my Spurs hold a decent Hawks team to 25 points in first half ! 25 points

Kawhi ,the best defensive player in the NBA, is just aching to reel Curry and the Dubs in , Tim.

Seriously though congrats to the Dubs. They had one of the greatest Streaks ever accomplished in Sports history .
People will be talking about this for many many years. What a run

In a way, I bet their relieved to get this monkey off their backs

It didn't feel good from the start. They looked tired.

If the Warriors had won tonight they would have been the 1st team to have swept a 7 game road series, in nba history!

There's a reason why winning on the road is so difficult.

Congrats to the bucks!

The Bucks also ended the Lakers 33 game winning streak!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Meanwhile my Spurs hold a decent Hawks team to 25 points in first half ! 25 points

Kawhi ,the best defensive player in the NBA, is just aching to reel Curry and the Dubs in , Tim.

The Spurs are playing great ball. Tonight they easily squash a good Jazz team by 37! Impressive! Who guessed Aldridge would help their defense improve so much over last years? Pops is amazing!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

The Spurs are playing great ball. Tonight they easily squash a good Jazz team by 37! Impressive! Who guessed Aldridge would help their defense improve so much over last years? Pops is amazing!

Surely the Spurs will play the Warriors in the conference finals. Anything less would be a huge letdown. I guess injuries might derail this dream match-up, but it would be interesting to see if Pop can figure out how to slow the Warriors.

You can pretty much bet Pop will rest some of his starters in the regular season games.

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9 years ago

Amazing! Chinese kindergarten kids basketball...

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discrat 9 years ago

Two explanations for that video
1. Somehow video is altered and is fake
2. The Chines Gov't is mad ( what's new) and they are selecting a group of children and making them practice this 12 hours a day everyday with whips and chains.

Kids at this age ,with boys and girls, simply do not pick up something like this in a normal manner and start handling a ball in this fashion.( especially two balls sitting down) Their brains are not advanced enough at this stage to do this in a typical environment

There are exceptions with the occasional natural prodigy but not a group with this many
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  How about this 5 year old kid's handles?
  
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Kurt

9 years ago

Nuggets complete the sweep of the Rockets, beating them for the third straight time this season. Now, if we could only play them every game we could challenge Tim's Ws for best record.

BTW, Dwight was in the news today crying about him not being the first option in the Offense instead of Harden.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Houston lost last night again to the Kings who didn't have Rondo. Cousins completely out played Howard who had only 4 points and 4 rebounds.

Another disappointing team this year so far are the Clippers. They will be lucky to get 50 wins the way they are going. With arguably three of the top 20, maybe even 15, players in the league they just aren't getting it done and are under performing. I just don't think Doc Rivers is a very good coach or GM, but the Clippers seem committed to him. They play the Spurs at San Antonio Friday. I don't see that being a close game the way both teams are playing. lol.

Tomorrow night the Thunder will visit the Cavs. Now that game should be a good one!

By the way, the Bucks, who stopped the Warriors win streak, were caught in an LA strip club in the early morning hours on the day they played the Lakers and lost by 18! Good grief.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Houston lost last night again to the Kings who didn't have Rondo. Cousins completely out played Howard who had only 4 points and 4 rebounds.

Another disappointing team this year so far are the Clippers. They will be lucky to get 50 wins the way they are going. With arguably three of the top 20, maybe even 15, players in the league they just aren't getting it done and are under performing. I just don't think Doc Rivers is a very good coach or GM, but the Clippers seem committed to him. They play the Spurs at San Antonio Friday. I don't see that being a close game the way both teams are playing. lol.

Tomorrow night the Thunder will visit the Cavs. Now that game should be a good one!

By the way, the Bucks, who stopped the Warriors win streak, were caught in an LA strip club in the early morning hours on the day they played the Lakers and lost by 18! Good grief.

So...if the Bucks beat the Ws, and the Lakers beat the Bucks, does this mean the Lakers are better than the Ws?

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wartest 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

So...if the Bucks beat the Ws, and the Lakers beat the Bucks, does this mean the Lakers are better than the Ws?

Nope. The Bucks ended the Dubs' win streak and also ended the Lakers' losing streak. They are the league's Streak Busters.
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  Nope. The Bucks ended the Dubs' win streak and also ended the Lakers' losing streak. They are the league's Streak Busters.
  
  You're a Warriors fan. I think we need to ask someone that's not biased, like TL.
  
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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

So...if the Bucks beat the Ws, and the Lakers beat the Bucks, does this mean the Lakers are better than the Ws?

Yes, I think that's how it works. I sure hope the Warriors don't face the Lakers in the playoffs.
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  Originally Posted by TimPhelan
  
  Yes, I think that's how it works. I sure hope the Warriors don't face the Lakers in the playoffs.
  
  I agree. It's like boxing. If you beat the champ, you're the champ; I think TL agrees.
  
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9 years ago

Guilty as charged. LOL

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

SO I finally am going to be able to watch a whole game on Christmas day and figured I'd watch Tim's overrated

Warriors. What are they like in the last three games 2-1 ....BIG DEAL

but still Its my brother from another mothers team soo.....and how does he reward me?

5 PM start time - right blang in dinner time where no guy with a family can shake loose

If Bron takes you bro............I'm going to laugh

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

SO I finally am going to be able to watch a whole game on Christmas day and figured I'd watch Tim's overrated

Warriors. What are they like in the last three games 2-1 ....BIG DEAL

but still Its my brother from another mothers team soo.....and how does he reward me?

5 PM start time - right blang in dinner time where no guy with a family can shake loose

If Bron takes you bro............I'm going to laugh

Yep, 2-1 is disappointing. lol Hopefully they can get their act together soon.

I'm looking forward to this one, after hearing for months how Cleveland would have beaten the Warriors if they were at full strength. So now, all the pressure is on them to show what they can do. Should be a good game but since the Warriors are playing at home I expect them to win it.

The big game though will be on January 25th when the Dubs play the Spurs.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

congrats but I really thought the way Cleveland was playing it was't going to be that close.

This was my first long look at Golden Sate this year. Obviously a great team with the win record but I'd be a little concerned. Historically too many teams relying so much on the deep ball have had stretches in the playoffs where they didn't fall and got bumped out.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

congrats but I really thought the way Cleveland was playing it was't going to be that close.

Thanks. The Warriors have stepped up the D the past two games after kind of underperforming on that side of the ball for a few weeks. Their offense has been off the past two games also and the high rate of turnovers continue, but they still find a way to win. That was a grind it out kind of game. There were a few games like that yesterday including the Spurs/Rockets game. That was the best defense I have seen the Rockets play this year.

This was my first long look at Golden Sate this year. Obviously a great team with the win record but I'd be a little concerned. Historically too many teams relying so much on the deep ball have had stretches in the playoffs where they didn't fall and got bumped out.

Barkley said something like that last year. The thing is their defense is as good as any team in the league, they are one of the top teams in scoring in the paint, they lead the league in assists, are getting better at drawing fouls and are a smart team. So when their out side shots are not going in, like against the Cavs, they still can win games.

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Mike Anthony 9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Barkley said something like that last year.

I hear you but I don't think winning a ring disproves it. In fact I think what he said started to come to pass why Curry looked so ordinary. one of the best decisions i have ever seen in finals history corrected that. So you got to put coaching as a plus for them too

Still I admit I didn't know that about points in the paint. You wouldn't think that watching them but like I said I haven't watched them all that often this season
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9 years ago

Dinner at 4 - you dodged a bullet. I can probably kick in half time. Still if at some point in the evening I do not see something like this

You would have let me down again

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Meadowlark Lemon, the Harlem Globetrotters' longtime 'clown prince,' is dead at 83

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Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Meadowlark Lemon, the Harlem Globetrotters' longtime 'clown prince,' is dead at 83

I loved Meadowlark when I was a kid. We used to imitate him, saying "I think I have a shot!", then toss up a 40 ft hook shot. And I still get a good feeling whenever I hear "Sweet Georgia Brown" because of Meadowlark Lemon.

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Atmaier1989

9 years ago

Since he could not dominate the game, given his team, Kobe just took over the media and fan game this season by announcing his retirement.

Like seriously, no one realised but media is now covering his every move and every game like a finals game 7. The man always knew how NBA runs around the fans. Now he'll start the all-star game!

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Lakers fight valiantly but still get served by Tim's Warriors.

CAUGHT ON VIDEO: Pennsylvania High School Hoops Coach Attacks Ref

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

As good as Draymond Green was last year, he is much better this year. Jerry West says he is a top ten player in the league and I have to agree. He is leading the league in triple doubles and just might win defensive player of the year this year. He has greatly improved in his ball handling and is 6th in the league in assists. Plus, he just may have the highest basketball IQ in the league. Right now, he is third in the allstar balloting among Western Conference front court players, so he may be a starter in that game. Is he better than Blake Griffin and Anthony Davis? Yes, imo.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Magic is upset Curry is ranked higher than Isiah Thomas as all time best point guards.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/magic-j...215016007.html

Today ESPN listed their picks for all time shooting guards:

1. Jordan 2. Kobe 3. West 4. Wade 5. Drexler 6. Iverson 7. Gervin 8. Ray Allen 9. Reggie Miller 10. Earl the Pearl

What? Where's Klay Thompson? lol Kidding.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Magic is upset Curry is ranked higher than Isiah Thomas as all time best point guards.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/magic-j...215016007.html

Today ESPN listed their picks for all time shooting guards:

1. Jordan 2. Kobe 3. West 4. Wade 5. Drexler 6. Iverson 7. Gervin 8. Ray Allen 9. Reggie Miller 10. Earl the Pearl

What? Where's Klay Thompson? lol Kidding.

I liked Clyde but what is he doing on the list? He was a great player but I can't remember him making any shot outside of 12 feet.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I liked Clyde but what is he doing on the list? He was a great player but I can't remember him making any shot outside of 12 feet.

He got better at the outside shot later in his career. Was never great but made over 100 3s in a season 4 times with his high being 147. Here's what one of the ESPN writers said about him: "Drexler averaged more rebounds, assists, steals and blocks than Kobe Bryant for his career, while also shooting a higher percentage from the floor. And Drexler never missed the postseason during his 15-year career."

Spurs have a big one tonight. Lebronze comes into town.

The great thing about this game is that one of the teams will lose. lol. Heck, I probably will even be rooting for the Cavs which I rarely do when Lebron is on the team. Go Cavs. Would love to see them stop the Spurs win streaks.
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9 years ago

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Warriors tv announcer, and former warrior, Jim Barnett said before the game: "Nobody, and I mean nobody, in the nba plays harder than the Nuggets " Then he said it again. He tied it to coach Malone and he's probably a big reason.

Anyways, Nuggets always play the Warriors tough. Good game.

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discrat

9 years ago

Wow, Nuggets pulled it off. That's more of a Commentary to how good Western Conference really is.

Spurs have a big one tonight. Lebronze comes into town.

Spurs chipping away, only 2.5 behind Warriors.
As usual ,we be playing under the Radar just as we like it

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Spurs chipping away, only 2.5 behind Warriors.
As usual ,we be playing under the Radar just as we like it

With the Warriors losing to the Nuggets some power rankings lists will have the Spurs at #1. Plus, the Spurs may become the favorites odds wise to win the Championship. And with the home winning streak and historic point differential, they aren't under the radar anymore.

Also: The Nuggets beat the Warriors. Warriors beat the Pelicans. Pelicans beat the Spurs. Nuggets are the #1 team now.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

With the Warriors losing to the Nuggets some power rankings lists will have the Spurs at #1. Plus, the Spurs may become the favorites odds wise to win the Championship. And with the home winning streak and historic point differential, they aren't under the radar anymore.

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Dammit Tim, you are not to going to jinx this for me

The Warriors are one of the Top 2 teams to ever walk on the face of the Planet

They are the Favs and it should be easy peasy for them. I predict they Repeat and win the NBA Championship in a 4- 0 sweep

Now on back to my low flying plane

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

LOL. Funny, Robert. Ok, you know the best way to be under the radar? Lose some games! That will do it.

By the way, I'm hoping Draymond doesn't play tonight either. It's a good test to see if the Warriors can play a better game without him than they did last night. Kind of like when Curry was out two games. The first game Dallas blew them out. The next game they changed how they played and had perhaps their best win of the season and it was without Curry. Of course, this is something Pops has been doing for years, making his teams play without their stars.

Interesting note about tonight's game between the Spurs and Cavs: Teams on winning streaks of at least eight games will meet for only the ninth time in NBA history.

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9 years ago

Cavs looked real good in first half but Spurs defense took over in 2nd half.

These two Teams and Warriors are really the only serious contenders for the Championship. imo

With Warriors more than likely the favor if they stay healthy

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Cavs looked real good in first half but Spurs defense took over in 2nd half.

These two Teams and Warriors are really the only serious contenders for the Championship. imo

With Warriors more than likely the favor if they stay healthy

The Spurs got the kiss of death last night when Barkley said they were better than the Warriors. lol.

Should be a good four game series between the Spurs and Warriors this year.

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discrat

9 years ago

Wow, Warriors just might be 'Human' after all

They got routed by Pistons. And that's with all three of their Superstars playing and Curry got 38 pts.

Monday night will be exciting at Cleveland

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Wow, Warriors just might be 'Human' after all

They got routed by Pistons. And that's with all three of their Superstars playing and Curry got 38 pts.

Monday night will be exciting at Cleveland

Yeah, the Warriors have been looking beatable for a few weeks now. The Spurs are playing better ball at this point. I'm hoping Kerr can get back to coaching soon.

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9 years ago

Shaqs face is getting pretty round these days. This photo was shown the other night on the tnt halftime show. Cracked me up! Lol

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Shaqs face is getting pretty round these days. This photo was shown the other night on the tnt halftime show. Cracked me up! Lol

The one downside to the finals over the years has been having to watch the great entertaining work those guys do go away and the stiffs come in. No sports show has been as consistently hilarious. TNT should have the finals every year

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

The one downside to the finals over the years has been having to watch the great entertaining work those guys do go away and the stiffs come in. No sports show has been as consistently hilarious. TNT should have the finals every year

Agreed. Charles had a line before this same game where he was talking about the Lakers having no chance against the Warriors: "The Lakers have as much chance winning as the black girl getting picked on the Bachelor ". Funny line if you have watched that show which I'm embarrassed to admit I have. Lol

Edit: I'm not watching the Bachelor this season but it looks like the black girl has a chance this time. I know she would be my favorite from what I saw. So Charles may be wrong again. lol

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Now that game was the Warriors from earlier in the season. Just taking the life out of a team. Bring on the Spurs!
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  Yep, Warriors looked unbeatable. It will be an uphill battle for the Spurs to beat that Team that was out there tonight especially at Oracle
  
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

The one downside to the finals over the years has been having to watch the great entertaining work those guys do go away and the stiffs come in. No sports show has been as consistently hilarious. TNT should have the finals every year

Yes agreed, and Bill Simmons has to be one of the most uninteresting, uninspiring, and over rated commentators and journalists I have ever seen.

On top of that he worships Lebron too which makes it even worse LOL

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Cavs fans thrilled in the 4th quarter. Picking and nodding.
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  Originally Posted by TimPhelan
  
  Cavs fans thrilled in the 4th quater. Picking and nodding.
  
  Whats really funny and ironic and maybe I am being mean towards the City of Cleveland...but 1.5 year half ago when Lebronze announced his homecoming the city of Cleveland was celebrating the Messiah coming home and already talking about how the Chosen one was going to bring multiple championships.
  
  Honestly, with Curry and Thompson not slowing down in the next 5 years and Leonard and Aldridge teaming up to be a force in the next 5 years as well....I really do not see King James bringing home even 1 Championship to the city of Cleveland. Also Durant and Westwood are still relatively young and will be a factor as well.
  
  If anyone has argued there has not been a changing of the guard from Lebron being the best on Planet to Curry...well last night really solidified it in my opinion. It was a drubbing by GS and indeed signified the changing of that guard
  
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Looks like Tim's Warriors sent a loud and clear message to Lebron & Company the other night.

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9 years ago

How i wish they could.

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9 years ago

Well, I guess the Warriors spanked the Cavs so hard they decided to fire the coach! David Blatt gone and replaced by Tyronn Lue, who has zero coaching experience. I was never impressed with Blatt as a NBA head coach. The Cavs offense, which was supposed to be Blatt's strong point, looked terrible. Too many ISOs and very little creativety. How much of that was him and how much was Lebron, who likes to control everything it seems, we will see.

Also, good news, Steve Kerr will finally be back on the bench tonight! About time Steve. The Dubs have been really struggling without you! lol

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Wow, leads the team to NBA Finals last year and the top of the Eastern Conf. this year and gets the boot from the GM.

The GM sounds like a major asshat and control freak and letting the power get to his head just from what I have read today.
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Well, I guess the Warriors spanked the Cavs so hard they decided to fire the coach! David Blatt gone and replaced by Tyronn Lue, who has zero coaching experience. I was never impressed with Blatt as a NBA head coach. The Cavs offense, which was supposed to be Blatt's strong point, looked terrible. Too many ISOs and very little creativity. How much of that was him and how much was Lebron, who likes to control everything it seems, we will see.

Also, good news, Steve Kerr will finally be back on the bench tonight! About time Steve. The Dubs have been really struggling without you! lol

Lue has way more coaching experience than Luke Walton and has done his time as an assistant around the league.

I think Walton proved that when you have great players and/or a great team already in place, coaching isn't all that important - at least during the regular season. I'm willing to bet that the Cavs will still come out of the east again and get dropped by your Warriors again - but if they're healthy - it will go seven.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Lue has way more coaching experience than Luke Walton and has done his time as an assistant around the league.

I think Walton proved that when you have great players and/or a great team already in place, coaching isn't all that important - at least during the regular season. I'm willing to bet that the Cavs will still come out of the east again and get dropped by your Warriors again - but if they're healthy - it will go seven.

Well, having seen the difference in the Warriors under Jackson and then under Kerr, I can tell you coaching made a huge difference. Under Jackson, the Warriors' offense was stagnate, unimaginative, boring and counterproductive. Us fans knew it too. All though we were happy about the improvement the Warriors made under Jackson we could see the offensive scheme wasn't working well and was holding the Dubs back. The SB Nation page for the Warriors, GoldenStateofMind, has game threads that are live during the games. The complaints about constant ISOs was hilarious and frustrating to the fans. During Jackson's last season, the Warriors were last in the league in passes per game and not even close to the top in assists per game. One year later, they completely turned it around and are now leading the league in assists.

Jackson was also not willing to let the management hire the assistant coaches they wanted and was very stubborn in other ways as well. Kerr is just the opposite. I still see people saying the Warriors would have won a Championship if Jackson had stayed. That's not true imo. At least not for a few years anyways. Just as an example, Jackson would have never made that switch in game 4 of the finals where he started Iguodala.

Walton was just an extension of Kerr this season. He wasn't doing anything different and that was understood by all in the Warriors organization. Kerr was always in the background and for the past several weeks was with the team on the road trips. I do like the job Walton did though and am impressed with his intelligence, demeanor, honesty and ability to get along with people. Will he make a good head coach some day? I think so, but it depends on the situation. If I was him I wouldn't be in a hurry to leave the Warriors. Stick around and enjoy the next few years.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Well, having seen the difference in the Warriors under Jackson and then under Kerr, I can tell you coaching made a huge difference. Under Jackson, the Warriors' offense was stagnate, unimaginative, boring and counterproductive. Us fans knew it too. All though we were happy about the improvement the Warriors made under Jackson we could see the offensive scheme wasn't working well and was holding the Dubs back. The SB Nation page for the Warriors, GoldenStateofMind, has game threads that are live during the games. The complaints about constant ISOs was hilarious and frustrating to the fans. During Jackson's last season, the Warriors were last in the league in passes per game and not even close to the top in assists per game. One year later, they completely turned it around and are now leading the league in assists.

Jackson was also not willing to let the management hire the assistant coaches they wanted and was very stubborn in other ways as well. Kerr is just the opposite. I still see people saying the Warriors would have won a Championship if Jackson had stayed. That's not true imo. At least not for a few years anyways. Just as an example, Jackson would have never made that switch in game 4 of the finals where he started Iguodala.

Walton was just an extension of Kerr this season. He wasn't doing anything different and that was understood by all in the Warriors organization. Kerr was always in the background and for the past several weeks was with the team on the road trips. I do like the job Walton did though and am impressed with his intelligence, demeanor, honesty and ability to get along with people. Will he make a good head coach some day? I think so, but it depends on the situation. If I was him I wouldn't be in a hurry to leave the Warriors. Stick around and enjoy the next few years.

Exactly, after a team is into its settled, winning groove, a step in coach like Walton doesn't have to do things any different and the team will still be quite formidable.

Once again, Cleveland will still come out of the east but they will once again run into Golden State who is the true beast.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Once again, Cleveland will still come out of the east but they will once again run into Golden State who is the true beast.

I'm not too sure about the Cavs making it to the finals this year. I wouldn't say anyone else in the east should be the favorite but I would like to see the odds of them not winning. That may be a good bet at this time. They are very beatable, and there are a few teams in the east capable of winning a playoff series against them including the Bulls.

I know it's only one game, but to me, Lue didn't look or sound confident or comfortable in his first game. If I was a Cavs fan I would be very worried.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I know it's only one game, but to me, Lue didn't look or sound confident or comfortable in his first game. If I was a Cavs fan I would be very worried.

No coach except a top tier well respected one can coach the Cavs without Lebron over ruling him. I would not put it past him to have demanded the guy get canned after the humiliation with GS. He had some issues with Spoeltra in Miami as well but Wade basically said - um nope - Spoeltra is my guy chillout and let him coach.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

No coach except a top tier well respected one can coach the Cavs without Lebron over ruling him. I would not put it past him to have demanded the guy get canned after the humiliation with GS. He had some issues with Spoeltra in Miami as well but Wade basically said - um nope - Spoeltra is my guy chillout and let him coach.

Blatt was treated badly from the start and Lebron was the main reason. I wouldn't want to coach him. Can you imagine pops being his coach? Would he listen?

By the way, Lue made a totally tone deaf comment about how it would be "sweet" if Blatt could coach the all star team. Really?! Good grief! That tells me a lot about his ability to talk to the media. Just a bone headed statement!

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9 years ago

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9 years ago

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9 years ago

Well, tip off is in 2 hours. The way the Warriors have played the last week I don't see how the Spurs beat them, especially at Oracle.

If Spurs could win it might be a few points. If the Warriors win it could be by a few points or they could blow out the Spurs and win by 30+ points. If Curry gets going , that's it. Game over as everything gets opened up for them!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Well, tip off is in 2 hours. The way the Warriors have played the last week I don't see how the Spurs beat them, especially at Oracle.

If Spurs could win it might be a few points. If the Warriors win it could be by a few points or they could blow out the Spurs and win by 30+ points. If Curry gets going , that's it. Game over as everything gets opened up for them!

If the Warriors and Spurs meet in the western conference finals they could possibly play 11 times this year if the finals go seven. This is an important game but whoever losses still has a great chance. By the way, usually the Warriors and Spurs only meet three times during the season. Interesting that they have 4 this year and they all are after the midway point of the season.

By the way, I'm kind of excited to see our rookie, Kevon Looney, who was just brought up from the d league after recovering from an off season hip surgery. The guy fits into the Warriors system really well from what I have seen and heard.

Pops just said on the pregame show that he has butterflies! Wow. That's surprised me. Now I'm getting nervous. Lol

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9 years ago

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. they could blow out the Spurs and win by 30+ points. If Curry gets going , that's it. Game over as everything gets opened up for them!

Yep. Warriors handed the Spurs their heads tonight. What a massacre, But if Duncan was playing it would have been a different story j/k

Tim, Iam going to step out on a limb and say that IF and that is a big IF Curry can have a healthy career he and the Warriors could go for Russel's record. Really.

Sean Elliot who does Spurs broadcast said that Curry makes it look so easy, even more easier than Jordan ever did. And said its not even close. Thats exactly what he said tonight!

I think this Team when all of them are playing is better than the Bulls with Jordan and better than the Lakers with Magic and Kareem.

I believe it wouldn't even be a game against either of those two teams.

The Lakers better be scared as well as the Celtic because in the next decade they have a chance of losing the title of the two best dynasties.

After tonight I am convinced this could be a real possibility. And this would be a seismic change in the NBA history and its landscape.

I think there is a chance we may see that. The key will be to take care of Curry. Taking him out of the 3rd otr. like they did tonight is a good start. Sit him out a few games here and there in the next few years. Let Thompson take the reins. I'm sure Kerr will take a lesson from Pop and probably do this as Curry gets a little older. Save those joints and he will be good to go

Interesting enough up until tonight the Spurs were the only team the Warriors had not proven themselves to in the Curry-Thompson era. Last year ( 2-1 regular season) and the year before that with 2014 the Spurs had their number. And goodness gracious we do not want to talk about the 2013 playoffs when Warriors had a chance to go 2-0 at SA. And were up by 17 pts with 3 minutes to go at SA and blew it

Anyway, all that is erased now . The Warriors have everyone's number now

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The Warrior's defense picks up when needed. Then there's the offense: Curry, and Green, Thompson, Barnes, and Iguodala, Livingston and Barbosa, Bogut and Ezeli, ... it's like the Spurs offense on steroids.

And goodness gracious we do not want to talk about the 2013 playoffs when Warriors had a chance to go 2-0 at SA. And were up by 17 pts with 3 minutes to go at SA and blew it

No. Let's not bring that up. Lol
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9 years ago

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Yep. Warriors handed the Spurs their heads tonight. What a massacre, But if Duncan was playing it would have been a different story j/k

Tim, Iam going to step out on a limb and say that IF and that is a big IF Curry can have a healthy career he and the Warriors could go for Russel's record. Really.

Sean Elliot who does Spurs broadcast said that Curry makes it look so easy, even more easier than Jordan ever did. And said its not even close. Thats exactly what he said tonight!

I think this Team when all of them are playing is better than the Bulls with Jordan and better than the Lakers with Magic and Kareem.

I believe it wouldn't even be a game against either of those two teams.

The Lakers better be scared as well as the Celtic because in the next decade they have a chance of losing the title of the two best dynasties.

After tonight I am convinced this could be a real possibility. And this would be a seismic change in the NBA history and its landscape.

I think there is a chance we may see that. The key will be to take care of Curry. Taking him out of the 3rd otr. like they did tonight is a good start. Sit him out a few games here and there in the next few years. Let Thompson take the reins. I'm sure Kerr will take a lesson from Pop and probably do this as Curry gets a little older. Save those joints and he will be good to go

Interesting enough up until tonight the Spurs were the only team the Warriors had not proven themselves to in the Curry-Thompson era. Last year ( 2-1 regular season) and the year before that with 2014 the Spurs had their number. And goodness gracious we do not want to talk about the 2013 playoffs when Warriors had a chance to go 2-0 at SA. And were up by 17 pts with 3 minutes to go at SA and blew it

Anyway, all that is erased now . The Warriors have everyone's number now

Look buddy, you're getting way ahead of yourself.

You said this above...

The Lakers better be scared as well as the Celtic because in the next decade they have a chance of losing the title of the two best dynasties.

I say...

Was that an attempt to provoke me??

In order for the Warriors to catch the Lakers at 16 Titles they would have to go on a run like the Celts did in the 1960s of 11 titles in 13 years or so & more - and that ain't gonna happen.

Same goes for your Spurs because Pop won't be coaching forever.

Now...

Regarding your wild prognostications on whether the Warriors could beat the Bulls or the Lakers it's too bad they will never get it on.

But...

I can see my Showtime Lakers running the Warriors off the court in a bunch of wild up and down shootouts.

BTW...

The size of Michael Cooper or Jordan would contain Mr. Curry.

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Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I can see my Showtime Lakers running the Warriors off the court in a bunch of wild up and down shootouts.

The showtime Lakers against the Warriors would be interesting. Who would cover Magic? Draymond? Iggy? Who would cover Kareem? I guess Bogut but nobody could stop that sky hook really. Tough covers, but on the other side I don't think those Lakers could stop Curry or Thompson. It would be an interesting matchup for sure.

BTW...

The size of Michael Cooper or Jordan would contain Mr. Curry.

Leonard is taller than both and may be stronger.
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Look buddy, you're getting way ahead of yourself.

You said this above...

The Lakers better be scared as well as the Celtic because in the next decade they have a chance of losing the title of the two best dynasties.

I say...

Was that an attempt to provoke me??

Not at all. I just saw a damn good helluva a team get pulverized last night.
Iam trying to keep things in perspective in that the shots that are going in for this cat Curry is nothing like anyone has ever seen before.

It's no contest.

Iam stating that if this Team stays exactly like they have for the past week and carry that for the next decade they will be the best dynasty ever.

That being said there are so many variables as far as players leaving ,health issues . management etc..etc.. make this very up in the air.

But Iam just stating a scenario of what I have observed and the Stats that back it up.. And quite honestly TL I have never seen any other team including the Celtics or Lakers at this level ever. And that include my mighty Spurs.

There is just no contest.
Iam the type of guy who is extremely competitive but I give credit where credit is due.

And sorry, believing Cooper could handle Curry is pure emotion on your part. You are letting your emotions and your biased attitudes get in the way of fact

Let's just be honest/

It would be like me saying that Leonard can stop Curry on a better night.

The fact is he can't.

Lets just keep it real.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Not at all. I just saw a damn good helluva a team get pulverized last night.
Iam trying to keep things in perspective in that the shots that are going in for this cat Curry is nothing like anyone has ever seen before.

It's no contest.

Iam stating that if this Team stays exactly like they have for the past week and carry that for the next decade they will be the best dynasty ever.

That being said there are so many variables as far as players leaving ,health issues . management etc..etc.. make this very up in the air.

But Iam just stating a scenario. And quite honestly TL I have never seen any other team including the Celtics or Lakers at this level ever. And that include my mighty Spurs.

There is just no contest.
Iam the type of guy who is extremely competitive but I give credit where credit is due.

And ,sorry believing Cooper could handle Curry is pure emotion on your part. You are letting your emotions and your biased attitudes get in the way of fact

Let's just be honest/

It would be like me saying that Leonard can stop Curry on a better night.

The fact is he can't.

Lets just keep it real.

Hehehe. I remember a year ago when I suggested the Warriors would be considered a top 10 all time team you accused me of being drunk. lol

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Hehehe. I remember a year ago when I suggested the Warriors would be considered a top 10 all time team you accused me of being drunk. lol

Yes Tim, Me and Kurt said you were drunk.

Matter of fact I was thinking about that yesterday and was actually going to add that in my Post last night after the game lol

All this being said ( with my accolades ) ,I am still circling that game in March at SA. I think we can take it. Actually both home games but it might be hard to overcome the regular season records which should give homecourt advantage to Warriors throughout playoffs.

That will be tough to overcome but it will be exciting.
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Iam stating that if this Team stays exactly like they have for the past week and carry that for the next decade they will be the best dynasty ever.

Meh....Going to have to go with TL on this. You ARE getting ahead of yourself. Show me ring number two first and even then you are kind of dissing the Lakers and REALLY dissing James Worthy calling The lakers "Magic and Kareem"

Showtime Lakers were a VERY well rounded team. I might see your point on the Bulls because well the bulls always tended toward being more a one man team but the lakers were certainly not. Show time lakers would give GS some fits on defense and that tends to wear down the offensive end as well.

Sorry but its too soon to be making those projections. I think you are suffering also from your Fandom of San Antonio. kinda - "well they destroyed my great team so they could be the best of all time"

Um maybe theres just more suckiness in Spur land than you saw previously.

Iam trying to keep things in perspective in that the shots that are going in for this cat Curry is nothing like anyone has ever seen before.

It's no contest.

Hey like I said before those bombers were sweet but if you are hanging your argument on those shots - forget it. Thats not going to last through the years needed to claim a dynasty better than Boston or LA. YOU got to be in your prime to get the lift on those and do so with precision. Where I think Curry has more staying power than Lebron is his savvy and ball handling. Thats skill and it last longer than physicality I don't expect those shots to be there with him as he ages but even then his savvy will still win games..

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Meh....Going to have to go with TL on this. You ARE getting ahead of yourself. Show me ring number two first and even then you are kind of dissing the Lakers and REALLY dissing James Worthy calling The lakers "Magic and Kareem"

Just throwing it out out there MA. It does make it more exciting.

But I just know for a fact those Spurs may not win against Worthy or Bird or Jordan's teams but they would make it a game and be able to play with them .

Last night from the tip off it wasn't even a game. Not even close

So just to connecting the dots here by mere deduction

Like I said its a long shot and a lot of time to see if it comes to fruition but it's worth putting it out there

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9 years ago

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But I just know for a fact those Spurs may not win against Worthy or Bird or Jordan's teams but they would make it a game and be able to play with them .

Sorry Robert. You know no such fact. you just THINK you do. You need to go look at some tape. Spurs have been good but they never played in the same stratosphere as the prime showtime lakers. I am pretty confident they would blow out your spurs at least once as well.

Your also making Waaaaaaay to much of a regular season game. Playoffs baby

Not playoffs...we talking regular season, regular season. we talking regular season. I mean if this was the playoffs but we are talking about regular season....lol....might as well be talking bout practice.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Sorry Robert. You know no such fact. you just THINK you do. You need to go look at some tape. Spurs have been good but they never played in the same stratosphere as the prime showtime lakers. I am pretty confident they would blow out your spurs at least once as well.

Your also making Waaaaaaay to much of a regular season game. Playoffs baby

Not playoffs...we talking regular season, regular season. we talking regular season. I mean if this was the playoffs but we are talking about regular season....lol....might as well be talking bout practice.

You wanta talk about playoffs, big boy.?You want to talk abut playing in a stratosphere?? Okay we can go there

Do me a favor and go back and look at Spurs versus Heat 2014 Finals. "Oh yea forgot about that one , Rob" as MA scratches his head and walks away with his tail between his legs lol . Go to Youtube , And don't just beat around the bush and say you did. Really do it. Go to YT just watch short snippets of each game of those Finals and you'll see one of the most most dominating, stratospheric teams in any given time period in NBA history.

(And I will know whether you did go to YT the way you reply in your next response)

My point being you are far more delusional than I thought if you think that any Lakers team would blowout the 2014 Spurs versus Heat in Finals. During that 5 game stretch. Pure insanity

Like you said let's talk about Playoffs, baby !! lol

Not saying the Spurs were better they probably were NOT and not saying they would win. The Lakers are head and shoulders above the Spurs organization ,no question.

But like I said if you dare even slightly infer, even the slightest bit that the Lakers ( any Lakers team for that matter ) would blowout those 2014 Spurs Finals Team for Games 1,2,3,4,5 you seriously need to
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

You wanta talk about playoffs, big boy.?? Okay we can go there.

Do me a favor and go back and look at Spurs versus Heat 2014. "Oh yea forgot about that one , Rob" as MA scratches his head . Go to Youtube , And don't just beat around the bush and say you did. Really do it.If you truly

ROFL.....As I have said many times this board seriously needs a laughing and rolling on the floor smilie. I could use about five of them now. lol...somebody's getting heated and talking smack to the king of smack. Okay I can hang...... lets do this.....

What are you like ten years old? 2014??? With a less than prime Wade. What are you smoking . You think Kareem, Magic, Worthy et all on a good night couldn't take out Ginobli Parker and Duncan in 2014??? I'd say you are crazy but you are not. Why?

Cause Crazy don't come in that foolish a flavor.

So the more likely scenario is that you have invented a new drug and your presently in product testing mode. Good luck looks like it can give you a high strong enough to short out all the circuits. Only questions is will the circuits ever work again after the high - cause in the present test subject (yourself) no sense or sensibility has returned

Spare me mister come to the NBA lately. The reason I sent you to tape was because showtime lakers is obviously before you momma made you watch TV. The truth is that a prime Magic worthy, Hakeem and to a lesser degree AC and cooper would quite likely have SWEPT the heat and heres the kicker

This is coming form a HEAT fan!

oh the pain.

and whats more - that probably would have been their repeat because they would have won the year before where ahem a certain texas team came up short against the same heat. oops

But like I said if you dare even slightly infer, even the slightest bit that the Lakers ( any, any Lakers team for that matter) would blowout those 2014 Spurs Finals Team for Games 1,2,3,4,5 you seriously need to be committed , my friend.

I can infer anything I like to an NBA neophyte that knows no history of the game. the point isn't how well the spurs took care of the Heat its how much better than the spurs the showtime Lakers were. Apples and Oranges - You make no sensible point. Meanwhile will the spurs in 2014 be referred to in the history of the NBA as "showtime" or any other such moniker to distinguish the team from other NBA champions? Unlikely

Because the Spurs couldn't even repeat
because they never played on the level of the Lakers for any length of time
and now because they can't even put up a good fight against another top tier without getting rapped on the head and bombed from the half court line because the opponent was so at ease playing them said - "shucks lets just play a game of horse and can you hit that shot? in the middle of this game to keep us from falling asleep"

Something they could never have the time to do with the Showtime lakers. So go watch some tape NBA rookie. Right now the history of the game is so far over your head it might as well be a sky hook that would float over tim's head and into the basket 9 out of ten times. Go pump up your Jordan's cause your arguments got no lift

So now we know why you are trying to prematurely float GS as the best of all time dynasty after one ring - cause your delusional about your Spurs place in history...........waaaay like a dot in the rear view mirror behind the lakers. they walloped you like a high school team so they just have to be or your Spurs relatively sucks compared to the other teams that spanked them so far.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

So now we know why you are trying to prematurely float GS as the best of all time dynasty after one ring - cause your delusional about your Spurs place in history...........waaaay like a dot in the rear view mirror behind the lakers. they walloped you like a high school team .

MA you crack me up lol

No biggie I am a big boy and love the competition

But simply refer to my quote below ( in response to your post above).

Originally Posted by discrat

Not saying the Spurs were better they probably were NOT and not saying they would win. The Lakers are head and shoulders above the Spurs organization ,no question.

MA It seems your losing your edge ,son , in the thought cohesion department and just seem a little discombobulated about what is being said and what is not being said with my Spurs.

That SEO work is starting to affect your Mind ? i hope I didn't "spur" it on the other day with PM about my Website being sandboxed

P.S. But I will give it to you . you give Ali a run for his money in the Rant dept.

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9 years ago

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MA you crack me up.LOL
Simply refer to the quote below. You seemed like you are all over the place without much cohesiveness.

ROFL..........Oh please ....You got your head handed to you as knowing nothing about NBA history so thats the best you can do. Your "quote below" is meaningless. I was referring to the Showtime lakers team not the organization.

Take your recent whoppin like a man Robert

All this premature talk about best of all time dynasty is just trying to soften the blow that you got your heads handed to you. Four other teams beat GS. and 6 other teams whupped you so taking apart the Spurs is not that much of a big of a deal to hang dynasty of all time on. Its the spurs - not like one of the all time great teams of all times.

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That SEO work is starting to affect your Mind ? i hope I didn't "spur" it on the other day with PM about my Website being sandboxed

Nope. I see sites that are as dry as Texas cactus every day.

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9 years ago

Okay, we will settle all this on the Court sooner or later and see how it all unfolds

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Okay, we will settle all this on the Court sooner or later and see how it all unfolds

Deal...shucks I might even root for the Spurs. Seems like they need some real NBA fans that don't throw their team under the bus because of one regular season blow out loss.

band waggoners suck,,,,,,,

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

"The Lakers are head and shoulders above the Spurs organization ,no question."

Historically, yes. Currently? Sadly for TL, no.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

"The Lakers are head and shoulders above the Spurs organization ,no question."

Historically, yes. Currently? Sadly for TL, no.

History and legacy have worked for them in attracting players but I tend to think that works against them at some point. If I am star player why do I want to go to a place where I merely share a legacy with Magic, Kobe, Shaq etc. Theres clippers in the same city and many great cities where my legacy will stand out better

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

History and legacy have worked for them in attracting players but I tend to think that works against them at some point. If I am star player why do I want to go to a place where I merely share a legacy with Magic, Kobe, Shaq etc. Theres clippers in the same city and many great cities where my legacy will stand out better

Good point about sharing a legacy. That's probably one reason why Lebron went back to Cleveland I would guess. It's going to be a tough road for him to win another though. The East is looking better these days. Heck, even the Knicks are much improved.

"Theres clippers in the same city..."

The Clippers just seem to be snake bitten. Lol. What was Blake Griffen thinking when he punched the trainer two times? Unbelievable. I'm wondering if he is now possibly tradable after that bs and with the Clippers playing better without him. How about sending Griffen to Cleveland for Love? Could work for both teams.

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discrat 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Seems like they need some real NBA fans that don't throw their team under the bus because of one regular season blow out loss.

band waggoners suck,,,,,,,

Oh no.
No bandwagonner here.
Tim knows I know we will take care of business at home.
I think we will keep improving. It's still a long season to go.
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  Wow, some of the most alive action in the last day I have seen here in awhile in this thread.
  
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- Mike Anthony 9 years ago
  
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  Oh no.
  No bandwagonner here.
  Tim knows I know we will take care of business at home.
  I think we will keep improving. It's still a long season to go.
  
  Thar ya go. It wouldn't be the first time a team shallacked another one in the regular season thought it was going to be easy in the playoffs and found it a whole new deal. For the record yeah GS may yet turn out to be one of the greatest all time. I am just old school. I have to at least see a repeat or more than one ring before that discussion is legit.
  
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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Okay, we will settle all this on the Court sooner or later and see how it all unfolds

Let's have a three on three game. TL, Kurt and I against Robert, Mike and .... damn. There's nobody else in this thread. OK, you guys can have the Cleveland nose picking fan.

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Let's have a three on three game. TL, Kurt and I against Robert, Mike and .... damn. There's nobody else in this thread. OK, you guys can have the Cleveland nose picking fan.

I say we all pitch in and get Mike to do some work and get this Thread higher in the SE Rankings

KYs- NBA Fans, NBA Lovers, Cleveland Sucks, Lebron Sucks, Spurs Suck, Lakers Suck, Warriors Suck, Cooper versus Curry, Leonard versus Rambis etc... etc

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Rambis?! There's a player I haven't thought about in a while. I played against him in high school. Well, I was on the bench most of the time that year but our team played his team which was Cupertino high. He was a hell of an offensive player in high school.
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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

I say we all pitch in and get Mike to do some work and get this Thread higher in the SE Rankings

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You ask we deliver

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

I don't mean to be picking on Ty Lue. Maybe he will turn out to be a very good coach, but he makes some comments that are kind of off. Here's one yesterday regarding Kevin Love not making the all star game:

"I just thought, in this league it's always been about winning and winning has always been rewarded,"

Lol. Blatt was fired with highest winning percentage ever.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Damn, Cleveland easily beats the Spurs and looks like a different team. Lue is making a difference! It was a tough week for the Spurs.

My Warriors almost lost to the sixers and played one of their worst games of the rear. 2nd game of a back to back today against the Knicks in NY. I hope they play better.

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Mike Anthony 9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

My Warriors almost lost to the sixers and played one of their worst games of the rear.

Dude don't sweat it. If they were making any shots in the game off the rear they are good
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  Dude don't sweat it. If they were making any shots in the game off the rear they are good
  
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Jill Carpenter

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Damn, Cleveland easily beats the Spurs and looks like a different team. Lue is making a difference! It was a tough week for the Spurs.

My Warriors almost lost to the sixers and played one of their worst games of the rear. 2nd game of a back to back today against the Knicks in NY. I hope they play better.

The Knicks used to practice at my college when I was going there.

That is about the closest I've come to basketball.

That's gotta count for something.

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Mike Anthony 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter

The Knicks used to practice at my college when I was going there.

That is about the closest I've come to basketball.

That's gotta count for something.

Are you kidding? Just tell him you saw a player once or watched them practice then say these exact words -

"I loved how they executed the pick and roll but the passing wasn't as clean as Curry's"

You'll have an extra box of chocolates and some roses for the 14th - but pick them up at a game. don't give him a home address or you'll have a stalker for life
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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Let's have a three on three game. TL, Kurt and I against Robert, Mike and .... damn. There's nobody else in this thread. OK, you guys can have the Cleveland nose picking fan.

dang so its like that eh Tim? Put me on the other side and its basketball and the black guy got picked last? okay brother from another mother - You are on the outs

LETS GO SPURS!!!!

and robert and I would dish and swish on you all day and tuesday. We don't need a third to play the old Fogey Trotters. Give Kurt a big enough Sundae and he'll be on the sidelines slurping it down anyway and with you all we need to do is put a dress on a broomstick and you'll be distracted. Two against one on TL and he only has the time - No show. Spot you 30 points and still beat you by 30

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Jill Carpenter

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Let's have a three on three game. TL, Kurt and I against Robert, Mike and .... damn. There's nobody else in this thread. OK, you guys can have the Cleveland nose picking fan.

I have not read any of this thread. Just came in on this page.

If you need someone to stick on a team or something you can use/pretend it's me.

I will be just over in the kitchen making you all some pigs in blankets and making sure there is some chilled beer in the fridge.

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Mike Anthony 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter

I will be just over in the kitchen making you all some pigs in blankets and making sure there is some chilled beer in the fridge.

TWO ON TWO COMPLETE!! With Jill on the sidelines we won't need the dress on the stick and Tim will be completely out of it. He'll just be wandering around on the court muttering to himself

"theres a blond on the sideline...Theres a blond on the sideline..."
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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter

I have not read any of this thread. Just came in on this page.

If you need someone to stick on a team or something you can use/pretend it's me.

I will be just over in the kitchen making you all some pigs in blankets and making sure there is some chilled beer in the fridge.

Jill, you can be on my team anytime. Just don't bring Claude.

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discrat 9 years ago

Here you go Tim : quote from article below "There's no way around it, though: Golden State has become so good that they're bad for the league."

Proof that the Warriors are starting to make the NBA bad LOL

Just as I surmised

Seriously, I think there is some Truth to this. Of course, to the fans of Warriors it is paradise. And rightfully so !!

But I don't think the Finals will be really as highly anticipated as years before.

I think overall fan's thrive on unpredictability and it will all become somewhat of a formality and people will look for other avenues that interest them

To be honest, I think the Novelty of the Warrior's greatness has worn a little as far as people being surprised and in awe dropping mode when they see them anymore.

Is that frustration and jealousy of other Team's and their Fan's??
.Absolutely ! Hell if it was my Spurs I would be jumping up and down as well lol

Personally, when they are not playing the Spurs it is a site to behold with the fluidity of that Team

But I think coming from purely an NBA executive's position and view it is probably not conducive to an ideal situation with such disparity between first an second place.

====> http://www.gq.com/story/golden-state...nba-basketball
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  Robert, the scary thing for the rest of the league is that they will only get better. First, the core of the team, Curry, Thompson and green will continue to improve for several years. Second, they will attract quality free agents like... oh... like Durant! Lol. Can you imagine Durant on this team? Thing is, I'm not sure he would want to because it wouldn't be his team. However, if he wants to be a part of a championship caliber team for the next decade, he would be welcome by Dubs fans.
  
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Kurt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Let's have a three on three game. TL, Kurt and I against Robert, Mike and .... damn. There's nobody else in this thread. OK, you guys can have the Cleveland nose picking fan.

OK. but only if I'm the designated shooter...

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discrat 9 years ago

TL, I forgot to mention this.

Maybe you might have a different outlook towards the Spurs and their Fans.

Friday night our crowd chanted Koby, Koby, Koby and wouldn't let him leave after the Game without a long, long standing ovation.

Job well done Kobe

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discrat 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

OK. but only if I'm the designated shooter...

Oversleep kurt ?
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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

OK. but only if I'm the designated shooter...

Well, Kurt, Mike wants to be on our team and you know he is a ball hog. lol

So the Knicks fired Derrick Fisher. I really didn't expect that. Next to go is probably George Karl who hasn't turned around the Kings as I thought he would. He's made them funner to watch but they still keep losing. Rumors are that Luke Walton may be leaving the Warriors for one of these jobs soon.
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- Mike Anthony 9 years ago
  
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  Well, Kurt, Mike wants to be on our team and you know he is a ball hog. lol
  
  Nope...Robert and I are fine with Jill as distraction for you know who. You can have Kurt as your designated shooter. Best for us - at this time of the year he is so confused between sports he thinks you have to put a spiral on the B-ball as you release it.
  
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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

LOL....Dude has no respect whatsoever for the three point line. Sees it waaay off in the distance, says "Good morning neighbor" and tosses it up with nothing but net.

Defense? You can't defend that. You would need two clones of Manute Bol hanging around the half court line.

I dunno about comparing him to Jordan quite yet but he has the best handles i've ever seen and that includes Magic

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Incidentally all these comparisons going back as far back as Magic have one serious flaw. None of the players then if you brought back from time in their prime would be the same players. The rules have changed to assist the offensive player and the competition has changed fueled by a whole lot more money involved. Magic wouldn't be magic. He'd train more scientifically and he would benefit from the rules changes

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Kurt

9 years ago

Spurs fans want to know, where's James Silas when you need him?

I think James Silas was one of the most underrated players of all time. In the ABA he averaged about 24 points a game later in his career and was a great defensive player too, along the lines of Walt Frazier.

He blew out a knee and never really recovered. Coach Doug Moe shifted the focus from James Silas to a young George Gervin. I've heard Gervin praise Moe for making Gervin's career.

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Kurt

9 years ago

Sometimes games are won and lost based on matchups. Tim, would you agree my Nuggets have played the best against your Ws this season so far?

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Sometimes games are won and lost based on matchups. Tim, would you agree my Nuggets have played the best against your Ws this season so far?

Well, they played them very well, but Detroit probably played them the best. That game woke the Warriors up.
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  Well, they played them very well, but Detroit probably played them the best. That game woke the Warriors up.
  
  We came back after being down by about 26 in the third and lost by a point in overtime, then beat you by 1 or 2 in Denver.
  
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  We came back after being down by about 26 in the third and lost by a point in overtime, then beat you by 1 or 2 in Denver.
  
  That's right. Two really close games earlier this month. I was just checking and we already played you guys four times this year. Yeah, Denver seems to always play us tough. I will always remember going to a game against them in Oakland a couple years ago and the Nuggets just blew us out. That sucked. Lol
  
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Watch Shaq Find Out He's Getting Statue Outside Staples Center

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9 years ago

Sting to perform halftime show at NBA All-Star Game

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GO LAKERS.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Interesting article about the health issues nba big men face. Larry Bird has had heart issues since his playing days and doesn't think he will live long. Bill Walton has had three dozen surgeries and was in so much pain he contemplated suicide.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14712117/larry-bird-believes-nba-big-men-die-young-right

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discrat

9 years ago

Kareem says dirk was a one trick pony. Ouch !! lol

There is no love lost between Dirk and Spur fans. I never thought stat wise he was close to Duncan.

But still a helluva a player and a hall of famer.

Why Kareem Abdul-Jabbar calls Dirk Nowitzki a 'one-trick pony' | FOX Sports

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discrat 9 years ago

Ginobli got his Balls beaten up bad

Manu Ginobili of San Antonio Spurs has testicular surgery, out at least month
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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Kareem says dirk was a one trick pony. Ouch !! lol

There is no love lost between Dirk and Spur fans. I never thought stat wise he was close to Duncan.

But still a helluva a player and a hall of famer.

Why Kareem Abdul-Jabbar calls Dirk Nowitzki a 'one-trick pony' | FOX Sports

Kind of ironic coming from Jabbar who I respect a great deal but when he was playing I thought his offensive game was boring. Talk about one trick pony, the sky hook was 90% of his offense.

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9 years ago

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9 years ago

For Tim!!

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9 years ago

Man... Can't believe Ginobli took it to the junk so badly....

Dang

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9 years ago

A little off topic, but this is Damn funny and I couldn't post it anywhere else here. Lol

OMG! ABC GOP Debate Intro Disaster! - YouTube

Back to the NBA, the Warriors shoot terribly but still grind out a tough game at home against the Thunder. I would love to play them in the playoffs but the Spurs will likely face them first if things keep going like they have been so far.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

A little off topic, but this is Damn funny and I couldn't post it anywhere else here. Lol

OMG! ABC GOP Debate Intro Disaster! - YouTube

Back to the NBA, the Warriors shoot terribly but still grind out a tough game at home against the Thunder. I would love to play them in the playoffs but the Spurs will likely face them first if things keep going like they have been so far.

It's important for a president to be able to think on his/her feet. At least Trump and Carson were on their feet.

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Banned 9 years ago

Sacramento Kings vs Boston Celtics. WHAT A GAME that was, one of the best of this season.

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Yesterday, it was great to see Cavaliers fans cheered for Kobe Bryant, even against LeBron James

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

The Blazers didn't look like a .500 team last night when they blew out the Warriors. Damian Lillard played a great game, scoring a career high 51points and the Blazers defense was very tough. The Blazers were a hot team before the All Star break and look like they will continue that trend. They will be a tough out in the playoffs. The Spurs also lost their first game back from the All Star break on Thursday, then bounced back with a win last night. Tonight the Warriors play the second game of a back to back on the road against another hot team, the Clippers. Should be a good one, but I think the Dubs will bounce back and avoid losing two in a row for the first time this year.

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discrat

9 years ago

yeah TL's Lakers and Kobe were making a run at Spurs last night until Kobe dislocated his finger.

Lillard was incredible last night. Surprised they could hand the World Champions such a drubbing by that amount.

Maybe it gives hope to the rest of us little guys in the league lol

Of course the minute we say this the Warriors come back and beat the Clippers by 50 tonight lol

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Curry's been on a roll lately. Just amazing to see. Even more amazing perhaps is to hear all these old time players say their team could stop Curry and beat the Warriors. Lol. Of course there are all the ex Bulls who say they could beat the Dubs. That's a very legit statement because the Bulls were a great team. Then there's those who think the Lakers' teams, or Celtics, could beat them. That's legit also. But some of this stuff is just comical. Cedric Ceballos said the 93-94 Suns team he played on would beat the Warriors easily. ( BTW, that team didn't win a Championship ). Stephen Jackson guarantees that his 2007 Warriors' team would beat this team. ( That team didn't make it out of the second round! ) Then, you have the great Oscar Robertson who says the old teams from the 60s could beat this team because the teams these days don't know how to extend their defense. lol.

Anyways, the warriors are having fun with it. Andrew Bogut tweeted:

"My under 14 team in Melbourne Australia would have beat these @warriors 109-99. Fat Jimmy would have locked down @StephenCurry30 !!!!"

Andrew Bogut jokes his Australian team of teenagers would beat today

Looking forward to the Warriors playing the Thunder today at OKC.

By the way, there's a good chance the Spurs will end up having the 3rd best record ever this season! Just a crazy year.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Curry's been on a roll lately. Just amazing to see. Even more amazing perhaps is to hear all these old time players say their team to stop Curry and beat the Warriors. Lol. Of course there are all the ex Bulls who say they could beat the Dubs. That's a very legit statement because the Bulls were a great team. Then there's those who think the Lakers' teams, or Celtics, could beat them. That's legit also. But some of this stuff is just comical. Cedric Ceballos said the 93-94 Suns team he played on would beat the Warriors easily. ( BTW, that team didn't win a Championship ). Stephen Jackson guarantees that his 2007 Warriors' team would beat this team. ( That team didn't make it out of the second round! ) Then, you have the great Oscar Robertson who says the old teams from the 60s could beat this team because the teams these days don't know how to extend their defense. lol.

Anyways, the warriors are having fun with it. Andrew Bogut tweeted:

"My under 14 team in Melbourne Australia would have beat these @warriors 109-99. Fat Jimmy would have locked down @StephenCurry30 !!!!"

Andrew Bogut jokes his Australian team of teenagers would beat today

Looking forward to the Warriors playing the Thunder today at OKC.

By the way, there's a good chance the Spurs will end up having the 3rd best record ever this season! Just a crazy year.

Tim, don't be silly my 86' Hawks team would massacre the Dubs. With Tree Rollins and Doc Rivers, Would not even be a game lol

Seriously, Curry dribbled down to beat the Thunder tonight. Couldn't believe it. 13 three pointers he had. Should have been 14 as one circled out of the rim.

The Spurs beat Rockets in a convincing win at Houston. Score made it seem closer than it was.

ABC prime time basketball was spectacular tonight.

The Spurs will be licking their chops come March 19th. I would venture to guess it will NOT be another 30 point blow out by Dubs

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Robert, I can't wait for the games against the Spurs! Two great teams. If only we had some of the old timer players on our team.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

There were a ton of NBA players, current and former stars, who tweeted about Curry last night. Robert, I saw that Phil Jackson even tweeted about Curry after last night's game and thought about what you wrote a couple times here:

"Never seen anything like SCurry? Remind you of Chris Jackson/ Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, who had a short but brilliant run in NBA?" ~ Jackson.

Here's the link to the story about other players tweeting.
NBA players in awe of Curry's huge night

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

"Never seen anything like SCurry? Remind you of Chris Jackson/ Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf, who had a short but brilliant run in NBA?" ~ Jackson.

I think I remember one if not both of those players and nope I do not put them at the level Curry is playing at now. If he keeps it up for the rest of the season and play offs I am willing to give him the GOAT in shooting the ball.

Jordan is still the master at getting to the basket and finishing but if he extends this performance into next season He's in the discussion for GOAT period and I din't think anyone had a shot at unseating Jordan not even Kobe

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Kurt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I think I remember one if not both of those players and nope I do not put them at the level Curry is playing at now. If he keeps it up for the rest of the season and play offs I am willing to give him the GOAT in shooting the ball.

Jordan is still the master at getting to the basket and finishing but if he extends this performance into next season He's in the discussion for GOAT period and I din't think anyone had a shot at unseating Jordan not even Kobe

You remember BOTH Abdul-Rauf AND Chris Jackson? Which one of them do you think is better?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

You remember BOTH Abdul-Rauf AND Chris Jackson? Which one of them do you think is better?

As my post indicated I was hazy on it but now thinking about it I'd go with Abdul Rauf as the more seasoned player

when he changed his name from Chris jackson

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Well, it's official now. The Lakers are the best team in the nba. The Warriors shoot 4 for 30 from 3 and commit 20 turnovers. Hard to win doing that.

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discrat 9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Well, it's official now. The Lakers are the best team in the nba. The Warriors shoot 4 for 30 from 3 and commit 20 turnovers. Hard to win doing that.

Wtf !!

I missed this game. Was outside all day. Just seeing this for the first time.

Tim , this is a shocker. I do not now how the Dubs come back from this.
This may be the proverbial nail in the coffin.

I have seen it coming a mile away. Kerr must be beside himself.
The destruction of one of the history's best.

And TL is in downtown LA at the Club getting his bubbly on

Btw, yes note the exaggeration and sarcasm I used.
It's Just ONE game but congrats to TL and Lakers
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Well, it's official now. The Lakers are the best team in the nba. The Warriors shoot 4 for 30 from 3 and commit 20 turnovers. Hard to win doing that.

I knew we could do it!

I watched that game from the beginning and rooted hard for my team to beat your team and we did!

Just kidding. LOL!

I didn't even know the game was on then tuned in holding my breath but was delighted to see us beating the defending NBA champions with about 5 minutes to go.

That's why they play the game!!!

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9 years ago

On the other hand I was struck by how unimpressed Kobe was. I guess with just a few games left its beginning to sink in

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discrat

9 years ago

Got my recent edition of SI .

Dubs on the front cover( still cannot believed they were snubbed last year's SI Cover for their Title, at least in East region and here in Southwest Region)

Cover has Got Curry, Thompson, and Green with big relaxed smiles on their faces.

What else would you expect

Her some Quotes from the Article:
" And the supernovas of the 72- win Bulls and the current Dubs ? Nothing alike says Kerr. Michael Jordan lived a separate Life from us says Kerr. He stayed in his own suites, had his own security people, Steph takes a regular room like everybody else, goes everywhere the rest of the guys do. Michael intimidated players just by walking on the court. Fans too. Step walks on the floor, and people are like, " How old is he 13 ?? "

End quote.
Really great article discussing the inner Life of these guys

Anyway, Tim it really sucks big time that I actually find it extraordinarily hard to hate Curry LOL

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Got my recent edition of SI .

Dubs on the front cover( still cannot believed they were snubbed last year's SI Cover for their Title, at least in East region and here in Southwest Region)

Cover has Got Curry, Thompson, and Green with big relaxed smiles on their faces.

What else would you expect

Her some Quotes from the Article:
" And the supernovas of the 72- win Bulls and the current Dubs ? Nothing alike says Kerr. Michael Jordan lived a separate Life from us says Kerr. He stayed in his own suites, had his own security people, Steph takes a regular room like everybody else, goes everywhere the rest of the guys do. Michael intimidated players just by walking on the court. Fans too. Step walks on the floor, and people are like, " How old is he 13 ?? "

End quote.
Really great article discussing the inner Life of these guys

Anyway, Tim it really sucks big time that I actually find it extraordinarily hard to hate Curry LOL

Thanks Robert, I'll have to read that article.

Curry has his haters, but not that many. He is likable. He has a kind of a different personality also. It's funny, to me he seems like he is stoned all the time. He probably doesn't smoke though. He's very religious but rarely talks about it and never pushes his belief onto anyone else. He would probably be good at politics someday.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Thanks Robert, I'll have to read that article.

Curry has his haters, but not that many. He is likable. He has a kind of a different personality also. It's funny, to me he seems like he is stoned all the time. He probably doesn't smoke though. He's very religious but rarely talks about it and never pushes his belief onto anyone else. He would probably be good at politics someday.

yeah. One recent Twitter caught the Curry's attention. A woman tweeted "My life goal is to have a threesome with @StephenCurry30 and @ayeshacurry,"

Ayesha replied "Yes maybe one day we will play a round of golf together,"

Classic

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9 years ago

Yep, Curry didn't have an answer for our D tonight. Hadn't seen him rattled for 4 quarters like this in a long time.1-12 from 3 points.

Spurs are just 3 out and two games left against the Dubs.

This could go down to the end of the Season. Dubs still have advantage but there is some pressure on them.

Aldridge has turned into a huge asset for Spurs. What a great game

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9 years ago

Pretty good, tough, intense and close game Saturday between the Dubs and Spurs. I enjoyed it. I don’t expect Klay and Steph to shoot a combined 2 for 19 on threes again. If those two make their normal percentages on their threes, like say just 8 for 19, the Warriors win by 10 points. It wasn't the defense of the Spurs really. Curry was missing wide open shots, including layups, he usually makes. Curry just looked off and a bit slow. He does have bad games. Thompson is streaky.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Pretty good, tough, intense and close game Saturday between the Dubs and Spurs. I enjoyed it. I don’t expect Klay and Steph to shoot a combined 2 for 19 on threes again. If those two make their normal percentages on their threes, like say just 8 for 19, the Warriors win by 10 points. It wasn't the defense of the Spurs really. Curry was missing wide open shots, including layups, he usually makes. Curry just looked off and a bit slow. He does have bad games. Thompson is streaky.

In the local papers Parker before the game said that the Spurs had something a little something different for the Warriors and he was really interested to see how they handled it.

Warriors were probably taken a little off guard. I honestly think they were thinking how easy it was in January. These Spurs were a different team back then.

Even with Bogut back they don't have an answer for Aldridge. That guy has outside shots and inside as well. He will dominate Bogut

As much as I admire Warriors and their attitude, I still say you Take any two players off the Warriors and any two of the Spurs it would not even be close. It wouldn't be even a 10 point game in Spurs favor.

Heck you could take 3 of the Spurs best players off the team and take Curry off and the Spurs would win.

Im absolutely convinced of that

Overall a deeper team. Probably the deepest in NBA history. That being said the Warriors are still the best. I think they are in the driver's seat. It will be interesting of anyone can at least challenge them within a few points at Oakland in the Playoffs.

P.S. Yes this is my "Im going to rile you up today ,Tim" Post

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discrat 9 years ago

Oh well. Spurs blow a 28-7 first quarter at Charlotte and get their 11th loss of season. Saturday was for nothing I guess lol

No way Dubs are going to lose 4 of last 12 games. I think Pop needs to go ahead and rest Parker, Duncan, Aldridge and Leonard for Playoffs. Get some minutes for Miller and some of the rotational players.

Spurs are going to get second place pretty much no matter what. It would be silly to risk injury to those key players !
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Even with Bogut back they don't have an answer for Aldridge. That guy has outside shots and inside as well. He will dominate Bogut /

Bogut has had an excellent year defensively and on offense has become more involved. Aldridge is a great offensive player but having Bogut and Ezeli in the lineup will help. Aldridge isn't going to dominate Bogut inside.

As much as I admire Warriors and their attitude, I still say you Take any two players off the Warriors and any two of the Spurs it would not even be close. It wouldn't be even a 10 point game in Spurs favor.

Heck you could take 3 of the Spurs best players off the team and take Curry off and the Spurs would win.

Im absolutely convinced of that

Heck, you only won by eight with three of our rotation players out and Curry and Thompson shooting like crap. Lol

Overall a deeper team. Probably the deepest in NBA history.)

Two deep teams but I'll take the Warriors bench, and starters, over the Spurs, thank you. Iggy, Livingston, Barbosa, Ezeli, Rush, Speights... Our bench won the game for us last night, while the Spurs bench disappeared. Lol

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Two deep teams but I'll take the Warriors bench, and starters, over the Spurs, thank you. Iggy, Livingston, Barbosa, Ezeli, Rush, Speights... Our bench won the game for us last night, while the Spurs bench disappeared. Lol

"I think San Antonio did a pretty good job and we followed their game plan," Rubio said. "It was different than what we used to do, but I think we came up big."

Tim, do I sense chinks in the armor ??

Timberwolves have had a horrific defense all season and their record shows, The Warriors barley squeaked by this one.

Even with Dubs bench they should have blown them out. So actually that says nothing about the Dubs bench

Are people starting to catch on to Curry and figure him out? Parker thinks so as well as Rubio.

And If any one person can connect the dots and break this guy POP can. Maybe he has?

It sure makes for interesting playoffs.

Remember, the only team the Dubs have NOT gotten their number on in a consistent manner in the Thompson- Curry era are my Spurs. Thats just a fact.
The Spurs know that and trust me Curry and Thompson as well as all the Warriors know that. Heck it's been 19 year since they won a regular season game in San Antonio

I think we are in the Warriors head's

lol

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

"I think San Antonio did a pretty good job and we followed their game plan," Rubio said. "It was different than what we used to do, but I think we came up big."

Tim, do I sense chinks in the armor ??

Timberwolves have had a horrific defense all season and their record shows, The Warriors barley squeaked by this one.

Even with Dubs bench they should have blown them out. So actually that says nothing about the Dubs bench

Are people starting to catch on to Curry and figure him out? Parker thinks so as well as Rubio.

And If any one person can connect the dots and break this guy POP can. Maybe he has?

It sure makes for interesting playoffs.

Remember, the only team the Dubs have NOT gotten their number on in a consistent manner in the Thompson- Curry era are my Spurs. Thats just a fact.
The Spurs know that and trust me Curry and Thompson as well as all the Warriors know that. Heck it's been 19 year since they won a regular season game in San Antonio

I think we are in the Warriors head's

lol

Robert, if I'm not worried then I doubt the Warriors are worried. Lol

Teams have been double and triple teaming Curry all year. Usually he will adjust by either passing as soon as the double team or by driving through the defense. Earlier in the year the Warriors set it up to have Green receive the pass and then quickly drive the ball for a 4 on 3 opportunity that was very successful.

You are right that the Spurs are the only team we haven't really dominated yet, however we still beat them by 30 in one game and played them pretty tough in the the other. One more blowout and then it's back to the drawing board for Pops.

The thing is, the Warriors are very flexible and smart. They will make adjustments just like the Spurs made their adjustments. However, they can play a tough grind it out type game with anyone if necessary, especially when Iggy, Bogut and Ezeli are all back which should be soon.

Here's a good article about this subject, Robert.
http://www.mercurynews.com/marcus-th...y-and-warriors

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Well I guess the Spurs have officially relegated themselves to No. 2 in the Western Conference Playoffs. Pop sat all his Starters except Green out tonight. I guess he knows they are No. 2 pretty much no matter what. And not surprisingly they got soundly beat.

A little disappointing to be honest. I was looking forward to this game. But not surprising. I still think with two games against the Dubs there was an outside chance. In sports you just never know.

I wonder how this will affect the Dubs....??

If Kerr will be smart and rest his A Team in this homestretch since they locked No.1 seed.

OR

he listens to ole Draymond Green and his constant babbling on how much the Dubs want the Bulls
record LOL

I think Green needs to be reminded in this situation that 73 wins at the expense of wearing out your teammates and getting injuries won't mean sh@t if you do not win it all

It sure will be interesting to see if Kerr has learned anything from POPs as a Coach
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- TimPhelan 9 years ago
  
  Robert, Kerr said a couple days ago that he would let the players have a say in getting rest down the stretch. They want to break the record but also want to stay sharp. The only two players who really would have needed rest, Iguodala and Bogut are coming off of injuries. The other players are young and haven't put in a lot of minutes this season anyways with Curry not playing in the 4th quarter many times because of huge leads.
  
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Yep the Warriors are pullling out the close ones. The record is in sight for them.

However, just remember Tim. All this will mean significantly less if the Warriors do not win the Championship..

Significantly less.

P.R.E.S.S.U.R.E
P.R.E.S.S.U.R.E
P.R.E.S.S.U.R.E

I will be interested to see if the Warriors can beat the Spurs by 30 at Oracle ??

Hey I got to make ALL this somewhat interesting, right ??
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- TimPhelan 9 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by discrat
  
  I will be interested to see if the Warriors can beat the Spurs by 30 at Oracle ??
  
  Hey, they already did that. Oh, you mean again?
  
  Pressure? It applies to everyone in the playoffs. Are the Spurs going to get past the 1st round this year? Now, that's what I call pressure! Lol
  
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  Hey, they already did that. Oh, you mean again?
  
  lol....ouch.....but he did ask to be reminded
  
  However I am with Shaq. Regular season doesn't matter.
  
  As long as the key people are not worn out I actually think it can help to have an attitude that we are winning every game. Don't forget too a dominant team like that playing the eighth seed can get a whole lot of rest in the first one or two rounds
  
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discrat

9 years ago

Wow, Stunning. Don't know if I'm more shocked the Dubs lost at home or that Step missed a good look at the 3 in the end.

Now the Dubs must beat SA both times to secure the all time Record. I don't think they were thinking this was going to happen at all.

The Dub Fans looked like they had seen a ghost at Oracle. I guess it might serve a bit of humility since they have had about every single fortuitous bounce of the ball that is conceivable... this year and most of last

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

I guess it might serve a bit of humility since they have had about every single fortuitous bounce of the ball that is conceivable... this year and most of last

Woah! someones letting the hatorade out there. good teams over time earn their bounce. You can't just luck out over a whole year of Bball

P.S. don't know why you are so happy at the idea of meeting a team that already blew you out when they have a whole lot of motivation more going into those games now than they did before and you kind of started resting your players a bit.

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discrat 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

P.S. don't know why you are so happy.

I love to see Tim sweat a little bit

He's had it to easy lol
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- Kurt 9 years ago
  
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  I love to see Tim sweat a little bit
  
  He's had it to easy lol
  
  Maybe if you ask him nicely, Tim will install a web cam in his sauna just for you...
  
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Woah! someones letting the hatorade out there. good teams over time earn their bounce. You can't just luck out over a whole year of Bball

Yeah no "hatorade" here. Tim knows I have mad respect for Curry and Warriors. Last couple of weeks been back and forth with the Ribbing and Sarcasm because it makes it at least a little more palatable for me to accept being dominated by one of the best teams ever and one that looks more than likely they will win 2 championships in a row this year.

Why fight it and be all pissed off. I stopped being that way last year LOL

Mighty as well have fun with it and embrace it. We may never see this again in our Lifetime or at least a couple of decades ( much like the 96' Bulls)

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Yeah no "hatorade" here. Tim knows I have mad respect for Curry and Warriors. Last couple of weeks been back and forth with the Ribbing and Sarcasm because it makes it at least a little more palatable for me to accept being dominated by one of the best teams ever and one that looks more than likely they will win 2 championships in a row this year.

Why fight it and be all pissed off. I stopped being that way last year LOL

Mighty as well have fun with it and embrace it. We may never see this again in our Lifetime or at least a couple of decades ( much like the 96' Bulls)

Good grief! I see what you are doing. Trying to jinx my Warriors and make it look like your Spurs are some 8th seed nobody team who are going to choke when they get to the playoffs. It ain't gonna work bud. You aren't going under the radar as you clearly want. The Spurs are going to be undefeated at home, have close to 70 wins and were a half inch away from winning two out of the last three championships! Lol. You don't fool me.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Good grief! I see what you are doing. Trying to jinx my Warriors and make it look like your Spurs are some 8th seed nobody team who are going to choke............ol. You don't fool me.

My man is trying to hedge his bets. Talk up the other side and then hope they crash and burn so that he can whoop and holler even louder at any win. My boys used to do that too.

"how'd you make our little nowhere team beat your team bro"
"Thats gotta hurt...greatest upset of all time...you okay?"

lol.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Now the Dubs must beat SA both times to secure the all time Record.

Not true grasshopper. The Dubs can beat the record still by going 5 and 1. They can tie it by going 4 and 2. To tell you the truth a tie would be cool with me.

Boston's defense was impressive. They played excellent team defense, especially on the exterior. I see a team like this come here and play so well, and I wonder how they can lose so many games.
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yeah the Spurs do have a chance. But I wouldn't want to put my money on it. Dubs just have too much fire power.

If it is home court advantage I don't see how anyone beats them. I know Celtics did. But the Playoffs will be different I have a feeling for Curry.

If we did make it to Western conference finals it would be a thrill to take it to Game 7. But just do not see us pulling that Game 7 out. 19/20 game we don't win at Oracle. Those aren't good odds
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discrat 9 years ago

Pippen says his Bulls would have swept Warriors in 7 game series.

Not sure where these people come off saying silly things like this. The Dubs have a 54 home winning streak until friday and Pippen thinks they would take first two at Oracle and then win next two at Chicago.

Like I said when someone talks nonsense like this you know its just ego overdrive and emotion
talking !! Not rational talking at all

If he would have said the Bulls would take it in 6 or so. Then yes maybe he really genuinely believes that and he actually is analyzing the match ups and the styles of play etc..etc..!.

Hell, they couldn't even Sweep teams back in their 6 championships at that time , and those teams were much less than the Dubs.

Pippen is just full of hot air like he always has been
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9 years ago

Well, the Dubs showed why they MAY be just the best team in nba history.

Spurs playing everyone . congrats POP for not doing your usual sitting out of starters this late in season. It's refreshing becuase this is what us fans really wanted. We may not see these two good of teams playing like this ever again.

Really puts Sunday Game as interesting Narrative...can Dubs win to beat Bulls Record

OR

can spurs win to maintain first time ever a team has won every home game in reg. season.

Should be quite entertaining. Hope POP gives the fans what they want and plays everybody. After all it is us fans( the ticket holders,, tv watchers, merchandise buyers etc..) that makes these people
multi millionaires. No one else

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Hope POP gives the fans what they want and plays everybody. After all it is us fans( the ticket holders,, tv watchers, merchandise buyers etc..) that makes these people
multi millionaires. No one else

Are most Spurs fan that invested in just stopping the GSW from setting the record though? Its not like this has to be the last of that matchup for the season. Playoffs baby. I can see Pop playing all players when the first seed was at stake but he may very well rest players for the post season now. Playing them just to stop GSW from getting the record seems a bit beneath him.

Plus I think most fans would prefer winning game seven in a playoff series.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Well, the Dubs showed why they MAY be just the best team in nba history.

Spurs playing everyone . congrats POP for not doing your usual sitting out of starters this late in season. It's refreshing becuase this is what us fans really wanted. We may not see these two good of teams playing like this ever again.

Really puts Sunday Game as interesting Narrative...can Dubs win to beat Bulls Record

OR

can spurs win to maintain first time ever a team has won every home game in reg. season.

Should be quite entertaining. Hope POP gives the fans what they want and plays everybody. After all it is us fans( the ticket holders,, tv watchers, merchandise buyers etc..) that makes these people
multi millionaires. No one else

Interesting that Pop rested most of their starters but not Duncan Friday in their loss to Denver. I'm guessing Duncan won't play Sunday but the other starters will.

Two losses in a row for the first time this year by the Spurs. Warriors still haven't loss 2 in a row.

After the Spurs beat the Warriors last month Curry said what he was going to do in the next game, drive to the bucket, and that's what he did Thursday repeatedly.

Sunday's game should be a great one! I love watching these two teams play each other and I hope they meet in the western conference finals.

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Yep Dubs seem to win when it counts. They pretty much solidified being the overwhelming favorites for NBA Championship . I thought maybe the Spurs could make a statement if they could pull out a win.

But Congrats Dubs on tying the Bulls Record.They should be able to win it against Grizzley's Wednesday and beat overall record.

The thing with Warriors no matter how big a lead you have you feel like they are in total control and can come back in a second.

Curry is a ring master.
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- TimPhelan 9 years ago
  
  Robert, that was my favorite game of the year so far and there have been some great ones. The main reason it's my favorite is because we ended that 33 game losing streak. I guarantee you I've seen every one of those loses. Many were blowouts. The Spurs have dominanted the Dubs for so long it's great finally see the tide turn. A bit. They are going to be a great rivalry for years to come.
  
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9 years ago

Kobe's first NBA point

Kobe Bryant 1st Career Point - YouTube

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

What a great day for the nba. Kobe ends his career with a 60 point win, taking 50 shots to do so. The Warriors break the all time Record for wins at 73, Curry scores 46 in 3 quarters while reaching 400 3s and taking 19 3s to do so. Lol Two of the all time gunners. Seriously. Who loves shooting more than Kobe and Steph?

I went to the game tonight. First game of the year for me. Couldn't miss this one!

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

What a great day for the nba. Kobe ends his career with a 60 point win, taking 50 shots to do so. The Warriors break the all time Record for wins at 73, Curry scores 46 in 3 quarters while reaching 400 3s and taking 19 3s to do so. Lol Two of the all time gunners. Seriously. Who loves shooting more than Kobe and Steph?

I went to the game tonight. First game of the year for me. Couldn't miss this one!

Wow, congrats to you and your Warriors for having the best regular season in NBA history. I simply don't see anyone preventing you folks from your 2nd title in a row.

Congrats again!!

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discrat 9 years ago

Great game by Kobe. What a way to go out !

Congrats to the Dubs. A remarkable season for them this year. And I think Pippen is really seething lol

MVP and Most Improved may go to one player this Season

Also my Spurs closed out in style with their backups pulling Ws in a close one at Dallas and OT day before with Thunder
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Kurt

9 years ago

BTW Tim and Andrew...back to "both" Chris Jackson and Abdul Rauf...I was watching the local broadcast of a Nuggets game a few weeks ago and they brought up the comparison to Steph. They brought up a stat were about 16% of Rauf's shots were 3pt, while Steph is at about 45% this year.

They also brought up how many 3s teams shoot a game now and how many per game when Rauf played. Teams didn't shoot many 3s back then. Their point really was about how the game has changed since then.

I'm not saying Rauf would shot them as well as Steph if he shot more...but they are very comparable players. But what would I know? He only played for the Nuggets so I didn't see him play much. /sarc

And sometimes people forget that Rauf (Jackson) led the NCAA in scoring at LSU while he was teammates with a guy named Shaq. He had serious skills, but I think his tourette syndrome caused him a lot of difficulties as a pro.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I'm not saying Rauf would shot them as well as Steph if he shot more...but they are very comparable players. But what would I know? He only played for the Nuggets so I didn't see him play much. /sarc

And sometimes people forget that Rauf (Jackson) led the NCAA in scoring at LSU while he was teammates with a guy named Shaq. He had serious skills, but I think his tourette syndrome caused him a lot of difficulties as a pro.

Yeah I just remembered back in early 1990 when he and Shaq came to town at Knoxville. I went and saw him against my Vols..

And when I saw Step against my Spurs ( in games 1 and 2 in 2013 playoffs , remember Tim

) I had immediate flashbacks ( i mean literally as it happened) to what Jackson/Rauf did against my Vols way back 26 years ago

Just throwing up 3s with the defenders' hands an inch away from theirs noses and the damn thing going in, basket after basket.

Miller, Allen none of them could do it like those two

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9 years ago

Some surprises up to now this season.

In the East the Knicks seem quite decent and their #1 pick Porzingis appears like he is likely to be considered a very good participant and support the Knicks immediately. Detroit looks extremely improved. The Hawks remain playing perfectly after many anticipated them to fall faraway from previous years 60 plus succeed season. HEAT are playing excellent likewise, which maybe is not a surprise.

In the West, the Jazz and the Timberwolves appear to be they can produce the playoffs this total year. The Pelicans, who I thought will be a top team, experienced major problems getting going due to injuries and sub par play by Davis. The Grizzlies happen to be struggling and may well not make the playoffs.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by caubehntinhnghich

Some surprises up to now this season.

In the East the Knicks seem quite decent and their #1 pick Porzingis appears like he is likely to be considered a very good participant and support the Knicks immediately. Detroit looks extremely improved. The Hawks remain playing perfectly after many anticipated them to fall faraway from previous years 60 plus succeed season. HEAT are playing excellent likewise, which maybe is not a surprise.

In the West, the Jazz and the Timberwolves appear to be they can produce the playoffs this total year. The Pelicans, who I thought will be a top team, experienced major problems getting going due to injuries and sub par play by Davis. The Grizzlies happen to be struggling and may well not make the playoffs.

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Some surprises so far this season.

In the East the Knicks look pretty decent and their #1 pick Porzingis looks like he is going to be a very good player and help the Knicks right away. Detroit looks very improved. The Hawks are still playing very well after many expected them to fall off from last years 60 plus win season. The Heat are playing excellent also, which maybe isn't a surprise.

In the West, the Jazz and the Timberwolves look like they can make the playoffs this year. The Pelicans, who I thought would be a top team, have had major problems getting going caused by injuries and sub par play by Davis. The Grizzlies are struggling and may not make the playoffs.

What are you? A bot? How could a bot be around since 2015?

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No Tim. He is no bot.

He just wants to "mirror " a person who has such keen insight.

You should be flattered

Btw, 'Curryless' Warriors got played well by my childhood team last night going to OT.

The ankle could be a factor in home court playoff advantage.

Of course I won't be rooting for anyone to be hurt, no matter what.

But it might make it at least interesting
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9 years ago

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9 years ago

Warriors are deep enough to go for the record without having to rely so much on their starters. They have to go 7-2 the rest of the way. The schedule looks pretty tough.

Washington
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TimPhelan 9 years ago

The Warrior's win in OT against the Jazz gIvins them win #68. The Jazz shot terribly at the free throw line otherwise they would have won easily.

Also, last night Draymond Green became the first player in history to get 1000 points, 500 rebounds, 500 assists, 100 blocks and 100 steals in a season! Pretty impressive feat that shows his versatility.

A lot of firsts and records being set this year. The Spurs just won their 38th straight home game to open a season. They and the Warriors could both go undefeated at home this year.

Meanwhile Lebron seems unhappy in Cleveland already. I get t he impression he wants out. Lol I think some team in the East may beat them in the playoffs. Toronto perhaps.
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Congrats to Tim & the Warriors for a great season and I hope you break the single season record for most wins. IMHO, only Robert's Spurs have a chance of keeping you guys from earning back to back titles.

How about the recent drama surrounding my Lakers? Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Lakers dismayed Russell's video of Young became public:

http://www.bradfordera.com/sports/la...7f7afffcc.html

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Congrats to Tim & the Warriors for a great season and I hope you break the single season record for most wins. IMHO, only Robert's Spurs have a chance of keeping you guys from earning back to back titles.

How about the recent drama surrounding my Lakers? Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

Lakers dismayed Russell's video of Young became public:

Lakers dismayed Russell's video of Young became public - The Bradford Era: Sports - Lakers dismayed Russell's video of Young became public: Sports

Thanks TL. Even if they don't break or tie the record it's been a fun year. The Spurs can definitely win the Championship. If they beat the Warriors the last two times this year I'm sure they will be favored to win it all. No more under the radar bullshit with them.

Regarding the Lakers drama, Shaq had some fun with it on tnt. Lol.

Inside The NBA Shaq makes fun of D'Angelo...

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Warriors lose to Minnesota at home. Their 2nd loss at home out of the last three after winning fifty something in a row. What a time to go into a slump. Honestly though, they haven't been at their best since that part of the season when the blew out the Cavs, Spurs and Thunder among others. I would say the Spurs have been better since then.

I almost wish the warriors would lose Thursday so they can forget about the record and concentrate on playing championship level ball again which they aren't at all doing now. Then again, they play the Spurs next at home. It's almost a must win and that isn't regarding no record. It's a must win to get back on track before the playoffs and secure the home court advantage.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Warriors lose to Minnesota at home. Their 2nd loss at home out of the last three after winning fifty something in a row. What a time to go into a slump. Honestly though, they haven’t been at their best since that part of the season when the blew out the Cavs, Spurs and Thunder among others. I would say the Spurs have been better since then.

I almost wish the warriors would lose Thursday so they can forget about the record and concentrate on playing championship level ball again which they aren't at all doing now. Then again, they play the Spurs next at home. It's almost a must win and that isn't regarding no record. It's a must win to get back on track before the playoffs and secure the home court advantage.

Tim,
the warriors are human. I would say I'm stunned but then again all great teams have slumps. And no i'm not trying to sandbag or anything. I still think they will be ready for Playoffs.

That's just my opinion. Last year we thought the same thing with Memphis in the playoffs when it looked like Dubs were out after losing at home.

But I must say It is a little disconcerting probably for you guys since after all you got us tomorrow

But not sure what POP will do now. We have a legit chance to secure home court advantage. I wouldn't put a wager on it but I think it is possible

We had some fortune last night and won with 4seconds to go with Leonard hit a short jumper.

Man, those Jazz are tough lol

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

But not sure what POP will do now. We have a legit chance to secure home court advantage. I wouldn't put a wager on it but I think it is possible

We had some fortune last night and won with 4seconds to go with Leonard hit a short jumper.

Man, those Jazz are tough lol

Boris Diaw won't be playing and he was big in the win last month. Can't wait for this game. I'm thinking about buying a ticket on stubhub where some are going for as "little" as $150. Lol

The Jazz really can be tough when they are hitting their shots.

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Kurt

9 years ago

Time for some moral victories...When the Bulls set the record for most wins in a season the Nuggets beat them that year and are the only team to beat the Bulls that year and the Ws this year.

We're also the only team in the NBA to have beaten both the Ws and Spurs this year.

BTW, TL when's the draft?

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Kobe's last game in now in progress. Magic played MC at the pre-game ceremonies. As a Laker Fan from 1969 I want to say publically...

Thanks a million Kobe for helping the franchise win the 2nd most NBA Titles!!!!!!!

BTW, Kobe holds 19 Laker records and 9 NBA records.

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9 years ago

kobe was and is still a legende will miss him

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

A couple close games, two blowouts and one upset on the 1st day of the playoffs. I'm hoping for some good games tomorrow and would love to see Portland beat the Clippers. I wanna see Balmer cry again. Lol
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9 years ago

Wow, Griffin is back. To even stand a chance against Warriors ,we needed to see this.

Actually, with Griffin back and looking to keep getting his old form back..if I was a Warrior I would be a bit concerned.

I truly think the Clippers have a legit shot at knocking off the Dubs.

I really do. No one will be able to stop Griffin and Jordan inside. No one from the Warriors.

Of course someone will have to stop Curry LOL

P.S. Leonard won Defensive Player of Year. First time since Rodman to get it two years in a row

Twice as many first place votes as Draymond green

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Wow, Griffin is back. To even stand a chance against Warriors ,we needed to see this.

Actually, with Griffin back and looking to keep getting his old form back..if I was a Warrior I would be a bit concerned.

I truly think the Clippers have a legit shot at knocking off the Dubs.

I really do. No one will be able to stop Griffin and Jordan inside. No one from the Warriors.

Of course someone will have to stop Curry LOL

P.S. Leonard won Defensive Player of Year. First time since Rodman to get it two years in a row

Twice as many first place votes as Draymond green

James Harden should have won Defensive Player of the Year. He almost got in the way of a guy that one time.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Robert, what do you mean nobody to stop Griffin and Jordan inside? Are you serious or just trying to get me riled up again? Lol. Maybe yo u should check out how we did when Griffin was in the lineup earlier this year and last year. Piece of cake.

You guys, Spurs, may have more of a problem with OKC than we will with the Clippers. Seriously, how are you going to stop a healthy Durant and Westbrook?

Draymond should have won dpoy this year. Better team record and he's more versatile on defense. I'd like to see Leonard guard centers like Green does. Doesn't matter though. Just gives the Dubs something else to motivate them. Lol

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Robert, what do you mean nobody to stop Griffin and Jordan inside? Are you serious or just trying to get me riled up again? Lol. Maybe yo u should check out how we did when Griffin was in the lineup earlier this year and last year. Piece of cake.

You guys, Spurs, may have more of a problem with OKC than we will with the Clippers. Seriously, how are you going to stop a healthy Durant and Westbrook?

Draymond should have won dpoy this year. Better team record and he's more versatile on defense. I'd like to see Leonard guard centers like Green does. Doesn't matter though. Just gives the Dubs something else to motivate them. Lol

Tim, the number of first place votes for Green was NOT even close to Leonard. This was a clear mandate among the professionals( even with the Dubs having an unbelievable Season) that Leonard has clearly been a more effective defensive player this year and imo a better defensive and overall player

Tim, all due respect I think if you would would ask any head coach around the league as well as most of the players they would unanimously pick Leonard.

Green is a great player but he ain't no Kwahi Leonard, sorry.

I give it to you ,that you guys have the best player in the NBA but Leonard is not far behind

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Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Robert, what do you mean nobody to stop Griffin and Jordan inside? Are you serious or just trying to get me riled up again? L

Tim, we got to keep the narrative going and keep things interesting

Btw, be consoled that Barkley is picking the Clippers going to Western Conference championship LOL
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  Robert, if given a choice between having either Leonard or Green on my team I'll take Draymond every time. Besides having great stats he has intangibles that makes a team better including just simply being one of the most natural born leaders I've ever seen. His basketball iq is off the charts also. Leonard has Pops and that helps Leonard but the Spurs would win more with Green on the team than Leonard. Just my opinion of course.
  
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Yep, the other night the Dubs were Curry-less and came out looking pretty good. I was a little surprised to be honest. I thought it would be closer. I know Rockets are not good but this has to be a HUGE confident builder that Dubs can do it without Curry. Iggy looked sensational.

It think it is safe to say Curry has trickle down effect and just makes every player on Dubs that much better

Spurs having no trouble with Grizzley. Even though I want to win as quick as possible I would rather have seen Conley and Gasol playing. They really have a thought team with those two playing
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9 years ago

Btw, came across this on YT and had forgotten about it. Unbelievable !!

Tracy McGrady: 13 points in 33 seconds - YouTube

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Btw, came across this on YT and had forgotten about it.

Funny seeing Pop yelling at Ginobili way back then when Ginobili actually had hair. Haha

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9 years ago

Wow! The Spurs destroy OKC, who didn't look prepared at all. Geesh. Disappointing effort. OKC is capable of playing good D but tonight... they sucked. On offense also.

Looking forward to tomorrow's games, 2 game sevens and the Warriors first game against Portland. The Dubs need to take care of business and sweep Portland.

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9 years ago

Well, OKC played like I thought they could, especially the tough D. Robert must be sweating now. Lol

If only Atlanta could get decent play from their veterans they might be able to beat the Cavs. Kyle Korer looks terrible and actually seems to not want the ball as if he is scared to shoot. Weird for a shooting specialist like him to be that way. One shot by Korver in 37 minutes! And Horford and Millsap are playing like crap.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Well, OKC played like I thought they could, especially the tough D. Robert must be sweating now. Lol

If only Atlanta could get decent play from their veterans they might be able to beat the Cavs. Kyle Korer looks terrible and actually seems to not want the ball as if he is scared to shoot. Weird for a shooting specialist like him to be that way. One shot by Korver in 37 minutes! And Horford and Millsap are playing like crap.

Yea Tim, down 3-2, the Spurs on on the ropes. But your Warriors just keep rolling. Also it looks like no one will be able to stop Cleveland from coming out of the east again - to face your people.

Hopefuly both teams will be at full strength and I think the Cavs can take the Warriors out with a little luck and some incredible play out of their big three - but I wouldn't bet on it.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Yea Tim, down 3-2, the Spurs on on the ropes. But your Warriors just keep rolling. Also it looks like no one will be able to stop Cleveland from coming out of the east again - to face your people.

Hopefuly both teams will be at full strength and I think the Cavs can take the Warriors out with a little luck and some incredible play out of their big three - but I wouldn't bet on it.

The Spurs fans looked shocked after the game. What a turn around this series has gone through since that first game blowlout! I expect the Spurs to win the next game in okc but it's going to be tough. Tim Duncan doesn't look good at all. Unless there is some sort of injury it seems his career is over.

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9 years ago

What a disappointing ending to a great year for the Spurs. They just didn't have it and OKC was clearly the better team.

Tim, if I was a Warrior fan I would have been praying for a Miracle that the Spurs would have miraculously come back and won these last two games....because OKC is gonna be really really tough.

I'm saying the Series goes to Warriors but it will go full 7 games .

IMO, here is the key to beating Warriors:
Go head to head with Curry just like the Blazers with Mccollum, Crabbe, and Lillard did the last two games. A basket or two going a different way in those last two games would have put the Warriors down 3-2 going to Portland for Game 6.

Some might say a team will get blown out trying to stay with Curry and company but the Blazers did it.
Even with Curry's brilliant ending Wednesday night, the Blazers could have cut it to one point but missed a basket at the end.

Also, some might say a team should be more conservative and stick with easier pick and rolls and hit 10 footers and then just contain Curry on the other end.
Sure Curry might have a bad half like the last game but you are NOT going to contain him sooner or later. You're just not.

I say Westwood and Durant, and maybe Waiters need to trade baskets with him and go head to head at his pace and go for a lot of threes. It's a real long shot but that's the only way they have a chance imo.

Still picking Dubs though to win 2nd year in a row

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

What a disappointing ending to a great year for the Spurs. They just didn't have it and OKC was clearly the better team.

Tim, if I was a Warrior fan I would have been praying for a Miracle that the Spurs would have miraculously come back and won these last two games....because OKC is gonna be really really tough.

I'm saying the Series goes to Warriors but it will go full 7 games .

IMO, here is the key to beating Warriors:
Go head to head with Curry just like the Blazers with Mccollum, Crabbe, and Lillard did the last two games. A basket or two going a different way in those last two games would have put the Warriors down 3-2 going to Portland for Game 6.

Some might say a team will get blown out trying to stay with Curry and company but the Blazers did it.
Even with Curry's brilliant ending Wednesday night, the Blazers could have cut it to one point but missed a basket at the end.

Also, some might say a team should be more conservative and stick with easier pick and rolls and hit 10 footers and then just contain Curry on the other end.
Sure Curry might have a bad half like the last game but you are NOT going to contain him sooner or later. You're just not.

I say Westwood and Durant, and maybe Waiters need to trade baskets with him and go head to head at his pace and go for a lot of threes. It's a real long shot but that's the only way they have a chance imo.

Still picking Dubs though to win 2nd year in a row

Tough loss Robert. The Thunder out rebounded the Spurs and just looked quicker too. Leonard and Aldridge were pretty quiet after those first two games.

By the way, how would you have liked to be a reporter asking Pop a question after that loss? Lol

Yeah, the Dubs could have problems with okc. 7 games seems about right but I wouldn't be surprised at a sweep also. That's a Warriors sweep by the way. Lol

How about those Cavs though? All of a sudden they are a three point shooting monster. I just don't see them doing it all the way through the playoffs though.

Dummy Lebron still not liking Curry getting all the awards and attention. He just has to say something about there being a difference between most valuable and the best. What a jerk.

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today on Yahoo Kevin Durant Quote (being compared to tim Duncan) ......
“Obviously, it was an easy comparison, two small-market teams, but we come from different backgrounds, different personalities and we handle things differently,” Durant told The Vertical. “He does stuff his way, and it’s been nothing but successful and I’m going to handle stuff my way. I’ve had my ups and downs, just like any other person. I did it my way, and I’m trying to create my own path.”

Obviously there are many ways to skin a cat. Tim Duncan and the Spurs is one way to do it. Michael Jordan and his ego is another way to get Championships.

That being said I think it is ironic the very last part of what Durant says above ( " I’ve had my ups and downs, just like any other person. I did it my way, and I’m trying to create my own path.”)

He's right you would have never heard Duncan saying anything close to that. It was all about team ball even when he first started with Robinson. I think even Curry believes similar to Duncan as well as Magic and Bird.

Interesting enough Barkley and the Jett were saying constantly on TNT this past week if Westwood and Durant really trusted and believed in their Teammates like Kanter and Adams and penetrated then passed off to them for wide open shots ...the thunder would be unbeatable.

I think their is some Truth to this. So not sure if Durant will ever win the big one until he realizes its more about the Team than himself. Maybe Barkley had the same mentality and we all know how that story ended
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  Robert, I kind of agree with that criticism of Durant and Westbrook. It really showed in 4th quarters this year when the Thunder lost many games because they didn't finish well. Westbrook especially had troubles finishing games. When they are playing their best though it doesn’t seem to matter as much, which was the case in the last few games against the Spurs.
  
  Durant and Westbrook are both emotional players which I would say usually helps them. However I am wondering if they will have a letdown after beating the Spurs. Durant said winning that series wasn't their Championship, but it was a huge win for them. Remember what happened to the Clippers after beating the Spurs last year? That was a very emotional win for the Clippers and then they just fizzled out against the Rockets. Sometimes being too emotional can hurt you.
  
  The Warriors play with emotion also but it seems to be mostly anger, because of what they see as disrespect, or just plain enjoyment.
  
  By the way, Barkley is agreeing with Lebron, saying lebron and Leonard are both better all around players than Steph. He's so full of it.
  
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Yeah pretty shocking . Those Warrior fans looked like they didn't know what hit them ( trust me I can relate lol) .And Barkley afterwards saying that OKC is the better team and keeps saying it.

Of course we saw this scenario last year against the Grizzley and Cavs. People thought it was over for the Dubs after losing at home.

I will say that Thunder is better than those two teams, imo.

Tim can you say Seep

j/k... I wouldn't at all be surprised if Dubs win next three. Its going to be a great series.

Yeah I agree. I like Durant as well. He seems like a class act even though he may need to be more team oriented. I wouldn't mine him getting a championship and would like to see it. Westbrook not so much
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9 years ago

For OKC I think they need at least one more good win just to solidify Durant for at least another year. I could see them winning it all next year but they are still a step off for this one. Durant feeling like they are just not in the same league with the West top team could have some horrible OKC consequences so I am rooting for a 6 even 7 game series

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

For OKC I think they need at least one more good win just to solidify Durant for at least another year. I could see them winning it all next year but they are still a step off for this one. Durant feeling like they are just not in the same league with the West top team could have some horrible OKC consequences so I am rooting for a 6 even 7 game series

Yes, I agree. The Thunder are playing so well now that it will be hard to leave, unless they lose the next three.

By the way, I mentioned the Thunder/Heat finals from 2012. That series went just 5 but it was a very close series except for game 5. The Heat won two games by 6 and one by just 4 points. I remember being so disappointed in Harden and thinking it was one of the worst choke jobs in the finals I could recall. If he had just played close to his normal game in that series the Thunder could have won easily.

So Lebron has a great record in the Eastern Conference playoffs, but he could easily be 0 and 6 in the finals. Just a few more shots made by harden and one miss shot the next year by Allen away from still looking for his first Championship.

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discrat

9 years ago

Warriors smacked the heck out of Thunder. I have a feeling they will take one maybe both at OKC.
Tim, just got thru reading today's SI. It;s got your boy Draymond on front cover.

Really good article. What a crazy guy ( not in a bad way) Izzo says Green is nothing now compared to like he was at MSU as far as being amped up.

Also, he and Kerr yell back and forth at each other numerous times saying "F@ck you,,,no F@ck you". They have actually had to be restrained in the locker room before. Kerr chalks it up to a close knit family with an edge and that he wouldn't have it any other way lol

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Warriors smacked the heck out of Thunder. I have a feeling they will take one maybe both at OKC.
Tim, just got thru reading today's SI. It;s got your boy Draymond on front cover.

Really good article. What a crazy guy ( not in a bad way) Izzo says Green is nothing now compared to like he was at MSU as far as being amped up.

Also, he and Kerr yell back and forth at each other numerous times saying "F@ck you,,,no F@ck you". They have actually had to be restrained in the locker room before. Kerr chalks it up to a close knit family with an edge and that he wouldn't have it any other way lol

Green is a different type of dude that's for sure. He's generally a good guy though, doing a lot of work with kids and the community. I think I mentioned here before his huge donation to Michigan State after signing his big contract and then buy Izzo a Rolex watch for reaching a coaching milestone.

He is very aggressive verbally. Sometimes in games it looks like he is going to get thrown out by a ref and in the playoffs he already has 4 technicals, three away from a one game suspension, however he seems to be able to control himself when it counts.

Yeah, him and Kerr really get into it sometimes. Kerr is an interesting dude also and has what he call potty mouth. Lol. I suspect we see them get into it again before the playoffs are over, but there is a lot of mutual respect in the relationship. Interesting dynamic between them though.

Whoever wins the west will have a tougher time with the Cavs than most thought. The Cavs are really gelling now, but again, their competition hasn't been the same as what the Warriors and Thunder have seen. It may take the Cavs a couple games to catch up to speed.

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discrat

9 years ago

Yeah really taken me by surprise with how good the Cavs are playing. I just hate to think of big head Lebron getting another Championship.

Anybody but him. I want to stop him as a "two Hit" wonder

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Yeah really taken me by surprise with how good the Cavs are playing. I just hate to think of big head Lebron getting another Championship.

Anybody but him. I want to stop him as a "two Hit" wonder

I agree completely. Lebron annoys the heck out of me. I loved how the Spurs destroyed Miami two years ago and how the upstart Dubs beat the Cavs last year. I've been hearing for a year now how things will be different with Love and Erving healthy. Sure, the Cavs will be better but so will the Warriors.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Kyle Lowry is shooting a fg% of just 35.7 in the playoffs which is the lowest in the past 50 years by any player with at least 200 shots! :/

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Bout time someone gave the Cavs a tough good game! Way to go Toronto!

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Ummmm no longer very sure there will be a repeat title this year

Westbrook and Durant are not to be trifled with and now they have the confidence to swag

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Ummmm no longer very sure there will be a repeat title this year

Westbrook and Durant are not to be trifled with and now they have the confidence to swag

I'm a bit worried, Mike, but strangely not as worried as I should be probably. Lol. That was an old fashioned ass whopping by the Thunder. The Dubs just need to get one win in okc and not lose another home game. Looks like they may have to try to get that win at okc on game 4 without Green because og his kick in the groin to Adams. Thats probably just as well the way Draymond played yesterday. Just an awful game by him.

Even if they go down 3-1 I'll feel they can come back and win it. Not likely but possible if they can work some things out. Curry doesn't really look himself though. I'm thinking he still isn't 100% recovered from his injuries. Well see.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I'm a bit worried, Mike, but strangely not as worried as I should be probably. Lol. That was an old fashioned ass whopping by the Thunder. The Dubs just need to get one win in okc and not lose another home game. .

nah not saying that 2-1 is anything to be in panic over but I just have to admit that thrashin was totally unexpected to me and when that combo is on they have a serious shot

as for the 3-1 scenario? I ain't buying your confidence . Make sure you use paper cups watching the game or you would chip a few teeth chewing a regular cup while watching game five down 3-1

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Mike Anthony 9 years ago

Well that game cleared up the rumor that Steph was playing injured. GS won the game they had to and I think previous to this series would have been expected to. What I think they failed to do was shake OKCs confidence. Yes they won but they could never pull away on their home court and OKC I think has the sense that a bounce here or a bounce there and they would have taken out the defending champions in five games.

Game 6 is this series game 7 so to speak. Its the pivotal game because if OKC can't close it out the odds are long they win game 7
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Mike Anthony 9 years ago

Oh my....no words. except

Somebody better put Thompson on that MVP award...unbelievable shooting performance.

If GS wins it all this year this is the game that will be talked about for decades
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Mike Anthony 9 years ago

I give Thompson the lion's share of the credit for that win. Steph looked like no MVP whatsoever until Thompson literally refused to lose (guy had a look on his half of the fourth like someone had insulted his mom) and woke Steph up out of his stupor. I remember thinking that if thats what the MVP looks like in an elimination game maybe they should wait until the finals to determine the award.

Don't think this game will compare but I give OKC a better chance than I did before game 6. Outside of the last few minutes did not see the fire in them in an elimination game (except of course Clay).

Go ahead and play so lackadaisical again thinking you can always chuck up shots at the end and win and you might be home watching the finals. I don't think I have seen such awful passes from a championship team before either. Awful and easy to see would be picked off as soon as they left the passers hand. lazy attention to passing.

If at the half I don't see a championship level team I will probably cheer for OKC (although I do think they will lose easily tonight). Don't like Westbrook myself but the city has been a great basketball city from the days they stepped up and adopted the New Orlean squad. Kinda felt for them seeing the stunned looks on their faces.

Seeing how they support Bball compared to Atlanta ((who can barely sell out playoff games) they deserve some sympathy as fans

but the end of that game in particular was the most awesome display I have seen since the days of MJ
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madstan 9 years ago

East is still softer than the west, maybe not as soft as they used to be but still soft.

My prediction Warriors in either 5 or 6.
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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Looking for a good series. Cavs obviously have some players that have it within them to turn it up. Also OKC exposed that GS is not an undefeatable team (series wise) and though a great team possibly not as great as many thought they were (Durant and Westbrook use better shot pass selection they win game 6).

Cavs might be thanking OKC too. They must be pouring over tape in that series. Love the splash brothers and particularly steph but if both are not "on" beyond the arc this team flounders in pressure games. Steph in particular has the history of disappearing for a game usually two in a tight series.

Hope its a great series. Unlike some I'm no longer a Lebron Hater. He's done his time for the whole - taking my talents to South Beach - thing so though I lean GS won't cry or throw things at the TV screen if Cleveland wins(if the OKC series hasn't taught you to never say never thats sad)

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discrat

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Looking for a good series. Cavs obviously have some players that have it within them to turn it up. Also OKC exposed that GS is not an undefeatable team (series wise) and though a great team possibly not as great as many thought they were (Durant and Westbrook use better shot pass selection they win game 6).

Yep. Congrats to Dubs. I must say Iam a little bit in the same boat. Not disputing whether the Dubs are a great team. They are. There is no question about it. I just think they are not as dominant as I once thought ( like 4 months ago, yes go ahead MA I know you will remind me of my proclamation in Jan. of 10 Nba championship dynasty Dubs were building LOL)

Case and Point....Game 6 Clay Thompson had what many have said was one of the most dominant Playoff Games ever. He was unreal. But OKC was in the Game until the buzzard. Which back 4 months ago would have been a blowout for the Dubs.

Second Case and Point Game 7...Curry had his A - Game. No question but OKC still cut the lead to 4 points in the last minute or so.

Curry is great. Nothing will change my mind about that. But after going back and looking at videos from 20 years ago, I truly do not think anyone up to this point was as great as MJ.

I think the only thing that will keep Curry from passing MJ's greatness is Curry's "sleightness". His defense is questionable. And he even admits this. Plus, (no offense Tim ) but when Curry drives to the basket he looks like he is doing the Three Stooges Shuffle lol

It looks really awkward and many times he is simply out powered or his shots are smacked down like Ibaka the other night.

That being said Curry is the MVP and deserves it. No question. When all is said and done he will be First team Nba EVER. OR at least Second and no worst

But I truly think that OKC is not necessarily NOT the best team this year. A few bounces here and there in Game 6 and they would be in the Finals. They simply dominated the Dubs more than the reverse.

Curry and Thompson are incredible but Durant and Westbrook are right there with them. They are definitely more athletic !!

My Ratings up to this Point in the Season.
1. OKC
2. Warriors
3. Cavs
4. Spurs

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Curry is great. Nothing will change my mind about that. But after going back and looking at videos from 20 years ago, I truly do not think anyone up to this point was as great as MJ.

Haven't been reading or watching ESPN much but if theres that discussion its crazy. MJ smokes Curry completely on the defensive side in almost any defensive category. offensively every other way but three point shooting Jordan was better than Curry. Curry has better handles.

Kobe to MJ makes more sense.

No offense to my brother from another mother but I don't think the circus shots are going to last more than one more season either. I might be old school but dependence on chucking bothers me a bit with GS.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Robert, you are ranking okc ahead of the Dubs right after they lost three in a row and the series? Lol I'm petty sure if they played 10 more games right now the Warriors would win 7 of those. OKC peaked at the perfect time as you said earlier, but the Warriors adjusted. OKC can't continue to play at that level for a whole season while the Warriors have proven they can.

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Kurt

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Robert, you are ranking okc ahead of the Dubs right after they lost three in a row and the series? Lol I'm petty sure if they played 10 more games right now the Warriors would win 7 of those. OKC peaked at the perfect time as you said earlier, but the Warriors adjusted. OKC can't continue to play at that level for a whole season while the Warriors have proven they can.

C'mon Tim...get serious. It isn't like the Dubs are defending champs and beat OKC three straight.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

C'mon Tim...get serious. It isn't like the Dubs are defending champs and beat OKC three straight.

Lol. I suspect Robert is just trolling me. There's no other explanation. I mean, they swept okc during the season and won 18 more games.
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  Lol. I suspect Robert is just trolling me. There's no other explanation. I mean, they swept okc during the season and won 18 more games.
  
  Yeah but did any of them goaltend Rocky's backwards half court shot? I didn't think so...
  
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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

No offense to my brother from another mother but I don't think the circus shots are going to last more than one more season either. I might be old school but dependence on chucking bothers me a bit with GS.

Circus shots? I'm not sure if having great range and quick releases would qualify as circus shots. Where the Warriors get carried away sometimes is in difficult passes. Kerr has been on them all year to make the simple pass so they won't turn the ball over which can be one of their weaknesses. During the playoffs the Dubs have been doing just that for the most part.

Kerr has also gotten on the Warriors for taking quick shots. He wants to have them move the ball around to get the defense tired. He was repeatedly telling them that during the okc series and also last year during the finals. That's a big part of their strateg in a series, to tire their opponents out. However, Curry and Thompson obviously have the green light all the time. Draymond not so much. Kerr doesn't want him just dribbling up the court and launching threes. He's more of an in rhythm type shooter who does best when he gets a rotation pass. They clashed about this earlier in the year but seem to have an understanding now.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Circus shots? I'm not sure if having great range and quick releases would qualify as circus shots..

Game 6 I think almost anyone would for some of Thompson shots. Even Steph was on the sidelines looking amazed.

Lol. I suspect Robert is just trolling me. There's no other explanation. I mean, they swept okc during the season and won 18 more games.

I agreed with him for some points but I think Robert is looking for a bit of redemption in a GS loss to take the bite off his beloved Spurs gone fishin.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

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Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Game 6 I think almost anyone would for some of Thompson shots. Even Steph was on the sidelines looking amazed.

Naw. Not amazed. We saw him get 37 in a quarter. The big difference is Klay is doing it in the playoffs now. He hasn't played anywhere close to what he's capable of in the playoffs for the last few years really. He's played terrific in this post season though and was huge when Steph was out 8 games. This is what I've been waiting for from Klay the past three years. Klay can be streaky from deep but I see him continuing to be more consistent and that's scary.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

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Naw. Not amazed. .

Nah... amazement. Steph on the sidelines was not like ho hum see this all the time on a regular basis in the camera shot I am talking about. Good win tonight but it underlines the point. Splash brothers were off. Bench had to step up and did. not very consistent. Steph in each playoffs has disappeared at times for the same reason. Its not maintainable over a very long span. BTW circus shots are not just long range shots. they are hand in your face barely catch the ball chuck it up and nothing but net. Thompson and steph are good three point shooters but chucking is more than standing beyond the arc.

Good win tonight and way for the bench to step up.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Nah... amazement. Steph on the sidelines was not like ho hum see this all the time on a regular basis in the camera shot I am talking about. Good win tonight but it underlines the point. Splash brothers were off. Bench had to step up and did. not very consistent. Steph in each playoffs has disappeared at times for the same reason. Its not maintainable over a very long span. BTW circus shots are not just long range shots. they are hand in your face barely catch the ball chuck it up and nothing but net. Thompson and steph are good three point shooters but chucking is more than standing beyond the arc.

Good win tonight and way for the bench to step up.

You're right, their shooting can't stay at the level it's been forever. It's not maintainable. Eventually they will get old. I give them another 10 years or so. Lol Curry shot over 45% from beyond the arc this year and has been over 43% his whole career except for one year. Klay is around 41% for his career. They both have super quick releases and usually have hands in their faces. It may appear that they are "chucking" up shots but they aren't really. They are breaking records pretty consistently.

Game one was more of a case of the bench playing great from the start and the Dubs not needing Curry and Thompson playing great.

Their defense is definitely sustainable. Cleveland is going to have problems scoring in this series.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

You're right, their shooting can't stay at the level it's been forever. It's not maintainable. Eventually they will get old. I give them another 10 years or so. Lol Curry shot over 45% from beyond the arc this year and has been over 43% his whole career except for one year. Klay is around 41% for his career.

You are missing the entire point Tim. Plenty of people have hit high percentage point in threes. Chucking is not just hitting threes. taking a three pointer is not a circus shot. I get you are high on euphoria right now but as they say on the court - the legs are the first thing to go. Call me if Curry and thompson are hitting those circus shots in another two years (not ten). Curry's stats on threes is not drastically up or down over his early years. Whats changed over the last few years is the circus shot element he started hitting more often. What goes up comes back down over a course of a career. However hey if it gets you back to back championships - Shucks yeah - Take that!

Game one was more of a case of the bench playing great from the start and the Dubs not needing Curry and Thompson playing great.

See now this is where Robert has a point. thats just fandom euphoria not rational Bball perspective. They had sub par shooting games. Its right there in the stat line. It happens when you chuck and helps proves the point. Against OKC thats a game they drop. Defensively I think the bench was happy to not see OKC again.

Their defense is definitely sustainable. Cleveland is going to have problems scoring in this series.

yeah I give you that. For all the hype Lebron gets his offensive game isn't close to the versatility of MJ or Kobe. He just straight up bulls his way to the basket and thats stoppable by a great defender. History will be kind toLebron based on championships andfinal appearances but anyone watching Play off tape won't be able to put Lebron anywhere near to GOAT.

Don't get too high on the fan sauce though bro. Cleveland aint toast after one game not even on their home court. Still hoping for a good series though I have picked GS.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Call me if Curry and thompson are hitting those circus shots in another two years (not ten). Curry's stats on threes is not drastically up or down over his early years. Whats changed over the last few years is the circus shot element he started hitting more often...

Heck, I don't see them playing at the same level in two years. I expect they will be better. Their game has improved every year they have been in the league. Especially Currys. He had the biggest improvement after a mvp year in the history of the league. I don't think either one is anywhere near reaching their peak. Green too, and a few others are still improving.

By the way, Shaun Livingston has been killing the Cavs this year. In three games he's made 18 of 21 shots! Iguodala continues to play great against them too. Nice to see Barnes play so well in game one. He's been in a bit of a slump.

The Warriors have beaten the Cavs six in a row now. The last three with a healthy Love and Erving.

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

The Warriors have beaten the Cavs six in a row now. .

Cavs have been awful especially defensively. They haven't built much of a team (seems to be a western conference thing (Spurs, Mavs, GS have pieces that fit together East just signs stars - although detroit is trying to do that). I know this must be great stuff for a GS fan but for an NBA fan not so much. Anticlimactic to have an inferior team in the finals. You'd like to see two good teams even if not the top two. This year the OKC GS series was the finals. OKC would be killing GS with steph and Curry having off games in game 1 and contained in game 2. As it is GS bench is beating the Cavs and its clear that Lebron is a bit past his prime. Any of the top 4-5 teams in the West would probably take out the Eastern Champs

I don't see Steph getting much better shooting. He already has great handles and we could see him later using that more to get to the basket as the circus shots start to fall less. In that sense his game might get more interesting but not really improved. He already has that skill just doesn't use it as much with the 3 point shooting and circus shots. He's 28 not 24.

Thompson yeah he has room to improve. Green? We'll see. I don't know his game has that much more room. I certainly don't think you are going to have three splash brothers now because of last night.

Boring Finals so far. Shows that outside of Miami a few years ago the East really hasn't become competitive yet.

The last three with a healthy Love and Erving

Not sure how you can say that with a straight face when Love was out with a concussion from the second quarter. I think they still lose and easily but that contributed to the blow out and by any rationality doesn't make Love healthy if he is sidelined by a concussion from the 2nd quarter

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Not sure how you can say that with a straight face when Love was out with a concussion from the second quarter. I think they still lose and easily but that contributed to the blow out and by any rationality doesn't make Love healthy if he is sidelined by a concussion from the 2nd quarter

I posted that before game two, Mike.

By the way, reportedly Curry has told usa basketball officials that he will not be playing in the olympics, so he can rest his knee. So although the Warriors official stance is that Curry is healthy he obviously is not 100%.

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Mike Anthony 9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I posted that before game two, Mike. .

Okay that makes more sense. Forgot how dead this board is nowadays. My apologies. Saw the 5th dates and it not far down on the list of active threads so thought it was a post game two comment.

Curry looks fine to me based on some of the moves he is able to make. Probably just precautionary and wanting to have the rest. Judging by the way the cavs are playing he could start getting it now and they would still win.
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TimPhelan 9 years ago

By the way, here was Thompsons response regarding making 11 threes in game 6: "I should have had at least 13 because I missed some wide-open looks early,"
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Yep. Congrats to Dubs. I must say Iam a little bit in the same boat. Not disputing whether the Dubs are a great team. They are. There is no question about it. I just think they are not as dominant as I once thought ( like 4 months ago, yes go ahead MA I know you will remind me of my proclamation in Jan. of 10 Nba championship dynasty Dubs were building LOL)

Case and Point....Game 6 Clay Thompson had what many have said was one of the most dominant Playoff Games ever. He was unreal. But OKC was in the Game until the buzzard. Which back 4 months ago would have been a blowout for the Dubs.

Second Case and Point Game 7...Curry had his A - Game. No question but OKC still cut the lead to 4 points in the last minute or so.

Curry is great. Nothing will change my mind about that. But after going back and looking at videos from 20 years ago, I truly do not think anyone up to this point was as great as MJ.

I think the only thing that will keep Curry from passing MJ's greatness is Curry's "sleightness". His defense is questionable. And he even admits this. Plus, (no offense Tim ) but when Curry drives to the basket he looks like he is doing the Three Stooges Shuffle lol

It looks really awkward and many times he is simply out powered or his shots are smacked down like Ibaka the other night.

That being said Curry is the MVP and deserves it. No question. When all is said and done he will be First team Nba EVER. OR at least Second and no worst

But I truly think that OKC is not necessarily NOT the best team this year. A few bounces here and there in Game 6 and they would be in the Finals. They simply dominated the Dubs more than the reverse.

Curry and Thompson are incredible but Durant and Westbrook are right there with them. They are definitely more athletic !!

My Ratings up to this Point in the Season.
1. OKC
2. Warriors
3. Cavs
4. Spurs

Go back 40 years and watch Kareem. IMO, Kareem is the best player of all time. He had the most unstoppable, dependable shot ever.

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Mike Anthony 9 years ago

Its officially time to panic
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  This is hilarious. There's something going on with the Warriors. Not sure what it is. Yes, the Thunder have been playing great but the way Curry and Green have completely folded here is not because of the Thunder.
  
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9 years ago

Some boring playoff games so far...Hopefully when the underdogs play at home they'll have a little better showing.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Yeah, some lopsided series so far but I think 3 or 4 could be interesting. Dallas pulled off an upset over OKC in Oklahoma. By the way, I liked how the Dallas players interrupted Westbrooks pregame dance routine. VillaNuevo says "If you want to go dancing, go to a nightclub." Lol.

Another possible good series is between the Hornets and Heat, although the Heat had a blowout in game one. Plus, I'm pulling for a Detroit upset in game two against the Cavs. Game one was very competitive.

The Raptors/Pacers series is tied 1/1. I would like to see the Raptors win because I think they would have a better shot at beating the Cavs.

I still think Portland could make it an interesting series against the Clips also.

Maybe Boston can get a win at home like Kurt says and make it interesting against a tough Atlanta defense.

Anyways, round two should be much more competitive.
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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Looks like Curry will be out for at least a couple weeks and perhaps the rest of the season. It's going to make it tough but I still think they have a great shot without him. Thompson, Green, Iguodala, Livingston, Barnes. .. everyone would need to step up and play consistently. Especially against the Spurs if they make it that far.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Looks like Curry will be out for at least a couple weeks and perhaps the rest of the season. It's going to make it tough but I still think they have a great shot without him. Thompson, Green, Iguodala, Livingston, Barnes. .. everyone would need to step up and play consistently. Especially against the Spurs if they make it that far.

Yes, Dubs looked strong yesterday without Curry. Actually, they looked better later in the game without him. Of course Rockets not a tough team. But many thought they would slide with this scenario occurring.

The Critiques will say it will be tough against Clippers/trail Blazers. But I think Green and Thompson are very confident.

It sure makes everything that more interesting for NBA fans outside Warriors base

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Kurt

9 years ago

I hate injuries in sports, even to the teams I don't care for, and think Curry being out seriously hurts their chances for the title. IMO, the Spurs look to be the favorites now.

BTW, if the Dubs do win the title, how does this affect Curry being the most valuable player? He may be the BEST player, but can we say he's the most valuable if they win the championship without him?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

BTW, if the Dubs do win the title, how does this affect Curry being the most valuable player? He may be the BEST player, but can we say he's the most valuable if they win the championship without him?

I think so. He has been so valuable (imo) he has single handily made every player around him on the Warriors that much better.
No way they get 73 wins without him.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

I think so. He has been so valuable (imo) he has single handily made every player around him on the Warriors that much better.
No way they get 73 wins without him.

Yes, there were many games this year that the Warriors would have lost if he hadn't had a big game. Without him they would've been a 50 maybe 55 win team. Definitely most valuable, but now it's the playoffs and it's possible they can come together without him to beat teams like the Clippers, Spurs and Cavs. Possible but not probable.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Without him they would've been a 50 maybe 55 win team. Definitely most valuable, but now it's the playoffs and it's possible they can come together without him to beat teams like the Clippers, Spurs and Cavs. Possible but not probable.

Wow, really Tim. Not trying to be patronizing but come on now 50 games??
Is this some kind of reverse psychology you are pulling...trying to do what I did the past 2 weeks and being a sandbagger lol

Dubs are still the overwhelming favorites with or without Curry. Comprehende Tim ?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Wow, really Tim. Not trying to be patronizing but come on now 50 games??
Is this some kind of reverse psychology you are pulling...trying to do what I did the past 2 weeks and being a sandbagger lol

Dubs are still the overwhelming favorites with or without Curry. Comprehende Tim ?

Lol. You do realize the Spurs are now the Vegas favorites to win it all? Now we are the underdogs.

Good luck with OKC by the way. They look like they are getting it together and playing with a lot of passion. That should be a great series.

Edit: So, CP3 breaks his hand and Griffin has a problem with his knee. Portland is looking good to go to the semis. Who's going to get hurt next?

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Interesting that after Paul was injured the Warriors became favorites to win the title again. Damn!

Kerr gets coach of the year. Portland coach Terry Stott comes in second. Stott has done a great job, taking a team that lost four starters from last year and now is two wins away from the semifinals.
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I hate injuries in sports, even to the teams I don't care for, and think Curry being out seriously hurts their chances for the title. IMO, the Spurs look to be the favorites now.

My view ?? With him they have an 80% winning it all. Without him about a 50% chance. But it is going to be mighty hard to beat them at Oracle

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Well, the mri shows a level 1 sprain and he will be out at least two weeks. Hopefully the Portland /Clippers series will go 7 games so maybe he can get back by the semifinals. It's going to be tough but this does make the next series pretty interesting.
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Jeremy Lin is quietly dominating the NBA playoffs

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9 years ago

Andre Drummond, who this year had the worst free throw percentage in the history of the nba, says he is willing to try the underhand technique that hall of famer Rich Barry used during his career to shoot over 90%. Good for him. I remember Barry taught the Warriors center George Johnson to shoot underhanded and Johnson became an 80% shooter.

So many bad free throw shooters have refused to even consider this style because it doesn't look cool. Good grief! Shooting 40% and shooting air balls doesn’t look cool either! The Warriors center from a few years ago Andris Biedrins basically became a head case who didn't want to touch the ball on offense because he didn't want to shoot free throws. It literally ruined his career but he didn't want to try the underhanded style. Ridiculous! Rick Barry even offered to teach him. Smh.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15...van-gundy-says

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Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Andre Drummond, who this year had the worst free throw percentage in the history of the nba, says he is willing to try the underhand technique that hall of famer Rich Barry used during his career to shoot over 90%. Good for him. I remember Barry taught the Warriors center George Johnson to shoot underhanded and Johnson became an 80% shooter.

So many bad free throw shooters have refused to even consider this style because it doesn't look cool. Good grief! Shooting 40% and shooting air balls doesn’t look cool either! The Warriors center from a few years ago Andris Biedrins basically became a head case who didn't want to touch the ball on offense because he didn't want to shoot free throws. It literally ruined his career but he didn't want to try the underhanded style. Ridiculous! Rick Barry even offered to teach him. Smh.

Andre Drummond of Detroit Pistons willing to consider underhand free throws, coach Stan Van Gundy says

tim, it 's beyond my comprehension how someone like Deandre Jordan gets paid 20 mil a year and can't get halfway decent at shooting free throws.

It's just inexcusable and a lackadaisical attitude.

If I was making 20 mil a year and on national tv every week I would be in that gym from dawn to dusk shooting and practicing free throws

No excuse

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Kurt

9 years ago

Condolences to Robert and his Spurs...

...And I'm shocked that OKC beat Tim's Ws. I would have bet the ranch on the Ws this game. OKC makes me bi-polar. As much as I like Durant, I dislike Westbrook. OKC beating both the Spurs (twice) and Ws on the road is a surprise.

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9 years ago

In Barkley's defense, he made a good point in the post game show about teams playing the Ws should go big and not small. If you go small you're not going to be equal with the W's smalls. You have to do something they aren't doing...make them match up with your bigs.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

I was thinking before the game that if okc was going to win a game here it would be the first. When okc got killed in the first game of the Spurs series I thought that they just weren't ready for that level of play. That loss brought them up to speed so to speak. I think this loss by the Dubs may do the same. The Warrior's level of competition in recent weeks wasn't the same as the Thunder's. I feel confident they will respond well, win the next game at home and at least one in okc to regain home court. We'll see.

I obviously want and expect the Warriors to win it all but if they don't I wouldn't mind seeing okc win it. They just better not choke in the finals again like they did against Miami. Ok, that was mostly Harden choking but still...
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9 years ago

Stupid ping pong balls. The Nuggets have had a lottery pick 14 times. 6 times, including today, they stayed with their original position. 8 times they moved down. Not once in 14 times have they moved up. Actually, the #7 is from the Knicks left over from the Carmelo trade. Nuggets had #9 with the option of trading with the Knicks for whichever pick was higher. So the Nuggets had two chances to move up this year and didn't with either.

Congrats to TL and the Lakers getting #2. It would have been bad had they dropped to 4 or lower and would have lost their pick. With Kobe leaving they also have a lot of cap space. It will be interesting to see if they can still lure top players.

And Philly shouldn't be rewarded with the top pick because they've tanked for 3 years. I'm tired of teams that tank being rewarded for deliberately losing. Maybe the NBA should take the bottom 7-10 teams and give the teams with the BEST records the best chances in the lottery? This way, even if a team is out of the playoffs they still have something to compete for...but something has to be done about tanking.

Oh well...good news is we have picks #7, #15 and #19. Maybe we can trade 7 and one of the others to move up a few spots and draft Buddy Hield. We really need a shooter, not more pretty good players.

Hield is being compared to Curry, but I don't see it other than they both can shoot 3s. From what I've seen Hield only shoots 3 either stationary or going to his left, although he does shoot those very well and with great range. I also don't see Curry's playmaking ability in Hield. But, Hield seems like a good guy and how can you not root for a guy called Buddy?

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9 years ago

Yeah, Kurt, I agree with you about the tanking, especially when a team does it year after year. When it's that blatant the league needs to do something. It isn't fair for 6er fans and just makes the league look bad.

Looks like the Lakers will get a good player next year. Funny prank was played on Luke Walton yesterday by a Warrior colleague who texted Luke that the Lakers lost their pick. Luke apparently fell for it. Lol

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Yeah, Kurt, I agree with you about the tanking, especially when a team does it year after year. When it's that blatant the league needs to do something. It isn't fair for 6er fans and just makes the league look bad.

Looks like the Lakers will get a good player next year. Funny prank was played on Luke Walton yesterday by a Warrior colleague who texted Luke that the Lakers lost their pick. Luke apparently fell for it. Lol

Looks like Tim's Warriors have sent a message to OKC. This series may still go at least six games.

Meanwhile in the east the Cavs hope to dispatch the Raptors asap so they can be well rested for the finals because they're going to need every edge they can get.

FYI:

The royal blood of the Lakers has entitled us to another high draft pick. This will be a test of Kupchak's powers as a talent evaluator and general manager. I'll do some research and forward my recommendation to Mitch on the best path forward at this time in our history.

Since Tim's Warriors are from the mighty Pacific Division I'll be rooting for them to win it all.

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9 years ago

Hey Tim...the good news is it was just one game. IMO, blowouts are highly overrated. However, I do believe game 4 is very important for the Dubs.

I'm still bi-polar on OKC...whenever Durant does something, I cheer for OKC. Whenever they show Westbrook, I cheer for the Dubs.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Hey Tim...the good news is it was just one game. IMO, blowouts are highly overrated. However, I do believe game 4 is very important for the Dubs.

I'm still bi-polar on OKC...whenever Durant does something, I cheer for OKC. Whenever they show Westbrook, I cheer for the Dubs.

What is it about Westbrook that you don't like Kurt? I know he can be annoying at times but he is such an amazing talent. Usually he is prone to choking at the end of close games and not passing enough but those days may be over.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

What is it about Westbrook that you don't like Kurt? I know he can be annoying at times but he is such an amazing talent. Usually he is prone to choking at the end of close games and not passing enough but those days may be over.

I dislike everything about him other than his talent. I don't know him as a person, so just basing my opinion on how he comes across and how he deals with the media and other players...not to mention the time when the Nuggets mascot Rocky was taking a backwards, underhanded shot from half court during a time out that was going in and Westbrook "goal tended" it.

Russell Westbrook robs Rocky. - YouTube

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I dislike everything about him other than his talent. I don't know him as a person, so just basing my opinion on how he comes across and how he deals with the media and other players...not to mention the time when the Nuggets mascot Rocky was taking a backwards, underhanded shot from half court during a time out that was going in and Westbrook "goal tended" it.

Russell Westbrook robs Rocky. - YouTube

Lol. That sucks. I think Kevin Garnett was the one who started blocking shots taken after a whistle was blown and now Westbrook has taken that practice to a new level. That was a kind of jerk type of thing to do.

Hey, by the way, here's one of those compilation videos that was made showing Draymond flailing his legs in all sorts of situations. Sometimes it's a small kick, sometimes it's a high kick, forward, bavkwards, when someone is close by, when nobody is near.... He seems to have restless leg syndrome while playing. Lol

Draymond Green Kick Compilation 2016 WCF - YouTube

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Lol. That sucks. I think Kevin Garnett was the one who started blocking shots taken after a whistle was blown and now Westbrook has taken that practice to a new level. That was a kind of jerk type of thing to do.

I watched that game on TV and the video is greatly editing. The crowd booed Westbrook loud and long for goal tending Rocky's shot...Westbrook still gets booed by Nuggets fans over that incident. LOL

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Westbrook still gets booed by Nuggets fans over that incident. LOL

That's some good loyal fans. Lol.

By the way, if the Warriors win tonight I'm going to go to game 5 in Oakland. I don't know if I posted it here but I went to one game this year and that was win number 73 this year. $340 for a standing room only "seat". Lol

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

That's some good loyal fans. Lol.

By the way, if the Warriors win tonight I'm going to go to game 5 in Oakland. I don’t know if I posted it here but I went to one game this year and that was win number 73 this year. $340 for a standing room only "seat". Lol

Good luck tonight...I'll be rooting for the Dubs, especially as a Nuggets fan whenever Westbrook shoots.

It's kind of funny what makes fans like/dislike players and having "villains" is a part of what makes sports fun.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Terrible start. Draymond, klay and Steph off to a slow start but we're in the game still. Feeling good about the game now.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Terrible start. Draymond, klay and Steph off to a slow start but we're in the game still. Feeling good about the game now.

It might be time for some Napa Valley and Humboldt County?

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

It might be time for some Napa Valley and Humboldt County?

Yep. I'm pissed because right now it ain't the Thunder playing great so much as the Warriors really, really sucking. Amazing! What's up with Curry? Weird stuff going on.

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9 years ago

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Yep. I'm pissed because right now it ain't the Thunder playing great so much as the Warriors really, really sucking. Amazing! What's up with Curry? Weird stuff going on.

I'm with Marv Albert and guessing his knee isn't quite right...

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Yep. I'm pissed because right now it ain't the Thunder playing great so much as the Warriors really, really sucking. Amazing! What's up with Curry? Weird stuff going on.

lol
Tim, surely you're joking right ?? If not you must be watching a different game than me. The Thunder are dominating the Warriors in every since of the word. I'll admit sure Curry is playing uncharacteristically with terrible passes etc..etc..
but even if Curry brings his A - game the Thunder are still winning the last 2 games by at least 10pts. or more.
The Thunder just look hungrier. Iam starting to believe that the Thunder were never that much less of a team than the Spurs and Warriors. I think Warriors and Spurs had incredible play in the regular season.

But Thunder have peaked when it counts.

Honestly, I don't see the Warriors as that better of an overall team. I think what we are seeing is something that many of us knew could happen for years but were dubious if it would come to fruition... and that is the Thunder's incredible talent is just coming together as a Team and it's obvious the way they have dominated the Spurs and now the Warriors.

Right now up to this point they are clearly the better team

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

lol
Tim, surely you're joking right ?? If not you must be watching a different game than me. The Thunder are dominating the Warriors in every since of the word. I'll admit sure Curry is playing uncharacteristically with terrible passes etc..etc..
but even if Curry brings his A - game the Thunder are still winning the last 2 games by at least 10pts. or more.
The Thunder just look hungrier. Iam starting to believe that the Thunder were never that much less of a team than the Spurs and Warriors. I think Warriors and Spurs had incredible play in the regular season.

But Thunder have peaked when it counts.

Honestly, I don't see the Warriors as that better of an overall team. I think what we are seeing is something that many of us knew could happen for years but were dubious if it would come to fruition... and that is the Thunder's incredible talent is just coming together as a Team and it's obvious the way they have dominated the Spurs and now the Warriors.

Right now up to this point they are clearly the better team

Why would I joke about the Warriors losing, Robert? Lol. No joke, they are playing terrible and it isn't just the Thunder being better or playing better. I would prefer that to what they are doing so far in this series, which is the C word. Maybe Curry isn't100% but that still doesn't explain much of his play. It isn't just Curry either. The team looks like the Hawks playing against Lebron. Uhg. In other words, it's mental.

I still have hope. I'll guarantee you one thing: they won't lose two more games to the Thunder by 10 or more points.

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Congrats Tim...I know you root for the Dubs, but I'm sure you have some mixed feeling and will also be rooting for Lebron deep down in your heart.
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  Congrats Tim...I know you root for the Dubs, but I'm sure you have some mixed feeling and will also be rooting for Lebron deep down in your heart.
  
  Thanks Kurt! Yeah, I'll be rooting for lebron to eat it. Lol
  
  I went to the game and had pretty good seats. No, I wasn't the guy who paid $58,000 for two. Bernie Sanders was at the game by the way!
  
  Great game seven! Curry was terrific. Thing about the Warriors, there's usually someone who has a great game. By the way, Thompson beat the single game record for threes in a playoff game and Curry beat the playoff series record for threes. Those two will have all the records for threes by the time it's over.
  
  Mike, Thompson isn't their Mvp. He started out the season way off shooting wise, when Curry and Green played great and carred them for the first several weeks. Curry got hurt in the playoffs and Thompson has stepped up big time in his absence and is continuing his great play with Curry back. It's too bad Curry got hurt because he was primed to go on a playoff tear before the playoffs started. He's ready now though. Look for him to win the finals mvp easily.
  
  I'm going to one of the finals games. Probably game two. I better not wait to game 5 because there may not be a game five. Lol
  
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  Mike, Thompson isn't their Mvp. He started out the season way off shooting wise
  
  He was their mvp for game 6 and game 6 was the most important of the series. Without that incredible shooting display they would all be home eating popcorn for the finals but yeah Curry is back! and the whole team played with a sense of urgency.
  
  Congrats bro
  
  I'm going to one of the finals games. Probably game two. I better not wait to game 5 because there may not be a game five. Lol
  
  Okay I know you are pumped but....just settle down there......
  
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Yep. I'm pissed because right now it ain't the Thunder playing great so much as the Warriors really, really sucking. Amazing! What's up with Curry? Weird stuff going on.

The Thunder are really roughing up Curry as he tries to get the ball and Russell Westbrook is on a secret mission to destroy Curry.

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9 years ago

I don't care who you are. Golden State better not lose tonight. They are in a most precarious position, down 2-1 and the next game is not at home - after being blown the hell out in game #3. Sorry, but If anyone gets down 3-1 it's over and just a matter of time.

BTW, Tim, you dodged a whiff of grapeshot with the NBA allowing Draymond Green to play - after what he did to Adams. Sure, there is "kick ball" in basketball but not of that sort.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I don't care who you are. Golden State better not lose tonight. They are in a most precarious position, down 2-1 and the next game is not at home - after being blown the hell out in game #3. Sorry, but If anyone gets down 3-1 it's over and just a matter of time.

BTW, Tim, you dodged a whiff of grapeshot with the NBA allowing Draymond Green to play - after what he did to Adams. Sure, there is "kick ball" in basketball but not of that sort.

Yes, a must win game I admit. The Thunder are playing great ball, beating the Spurs easily after getting blown out themselves. They look very determined. It's going to take a great effort to beat them tonight, from everyone. The Warriors got to play smart, pass the ball, don't turn it over, don't foul, take good shots, rebound and play their best d. And shoot well too! Lol. That's the plan Stan.

What a great gamelast night! I knew one of those teams could step up and challenge the Cavs. Lowry, Derosen, carroll, and the little Mutumbo are playing inspired ball also. Could turn into two great 7 game series.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I don't care who you are. Golden State better not lose tonight. They are in a most precarious position, down 2-1 and the next game is not at home - after being blown the hell out in game #3. Sorry, but If anyone gets down 3-1 it's over and just a matter of time.

rt.

We all said the same thing this time last year against Memphis and then Cavs in the Finals. The Warriors can draw on this experience. I still say the Dubs will take this one way or the other.

Watch for Curry to be on fire tonight

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9 years ago

Looks like the NBA would have done the Ws a favor if they would have suspended Green.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Looks like the NBA would have done the Ws a favor if they would have suspended Green.

Yep. At least for one game it didn't matter if he played or not. A game off may have enabled him to refocus.

To me, this next game is a test of the Warriors coaching staff. I haven't seen a lot of adjustments to what the Thunder are doing. Yes, the Warriors need to play smarter and harder but the coaching staff needs to help them by making some changes to what okc is doing. Perhaps as Robert says, there aren't any answers. I just think if they can get one win at home they will have a couple more days to figure things out.
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  Great game and good win by the Warriors. I think there was a few things that happened in this game that the Warriors can take into the next. For one was the effort and fight but that was to be expected. Having great contributions from the bench is another. Also, Green and Curry are closer to being themselves. Bogut staying out of foul trouble was huge also.
  
  The third quarter when the Dubs outplayed the Thunder without most of their starters was important not just for this win but also the remainder of the series.
  
  I'm buying the idea that Curry has just been off because of missing so many playoff games. He still isn't there but this game was a big step in the right direction. His defense and overall effort are there now though.
  
  Next game should be fun. If they win I'm going to game 7 Monday!
  
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Tim's Warriors are still alive! If they win at OKC in game #6 I think they will win game #7 at home.

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Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Tim's Warriors are still alive! If they win at OKC in game #6 I think they will win game #7 at home.

Yeah I think the same too, but it seems to be really hard to extend it to game 7, as OKC played really well lately... The favourite changed so fast and unexpectedly and now all the sudden Warriors are the underdogs... Too bad as I really wanted them to win it back to back...
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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Tim's Warriors are still alive! If they win at OKC in game #6 I think they will win game #7 at home.

TL, did you hear that Kobe sent Draymond a text message before the game saying that the Warriors can come back from 3-1? I'm liking Kobe more ever since he announced his retirement!
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Kurt

9 years ago

Congrats Tim...still alive. With the 73 wins there's more than a championship at stake, there's also a legacy. But remember, no matter what the Dubs do, they'll never be Super Bowl champs!

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Wow!!!! Tim, your boys have made a valiant effort to hold onto your championship. That was some 3 point shooting exhibition by the Slash Brothers. I must have hollered "damnnnnnn!!!!" at least 20 times during that game. Much respect no matter what happens tonight and I believe the defending NBA champs will move on to the NBA Finals.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Congrats Tim!!!

Looks like you folks can turn it on whenever you feel like it. I'm looking forward to 7 good games in the Finals since Cleveland took you folks to 6 games with only Lebron last year but now he has Love & Erving to help him with revenge on their minds.

My pick: Tim & Co. in 7 games.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Congrats Tim!!!

Looks like you folks can turn it on whenever you feel like it. I'm looking forward to 7 good games in the Finals since Cleveland took you folks to 6 games with only Lebron last year but now he has Love & Erving to help him with revenge on their minds.

My pick: Tim & Co. in 7 games.

Enjoy!!

Thanks TL.

I wouldn't mind seeing it go seven, but from watching these two teams all year, I don't see it. Thank you okc, for getting us ready for the finals.

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9 years ago

Cavs fan here. I've kept quiet up until now since this thread has really seemed to be the "Offical Western Conference Thread" and not so much the NBA thread

But now that the Cavs are playing the Western conference, I guess it's safe to open my big mouth.

I gotta say I've really enjoyed these playoffs so far. The last Golden State/OKC game was fantastic -- and as a Cavs fan made me worried no matter who we had to face. Curry, not-surprisingly, was amazing. And I have to give props to the Raptors too. Watching Lowry and Deroza was a real treat -- even if I found myself biting my nails as they hit basket after basket. I have no doubt that I'll have the same feelings of awe and trepidation when Curry and Thompson start putting on their own basketball tutorial.

But with Cavs finally seeming to put it all together -- and with the Warriors having it together since day one of the regular season -- I think this is gonna be a great series. Really looking forward to it. My real hope is to see 7 games, no matter who wins in the end.

Good luck to both teams!

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by kilgore

But with Cavs finally seeming to put it all together -- and with the Warriors having it together since day one of the regular season -- I think this is gonna be a great series. Really looking forward to it. My real hope is to see 7 games, no matter who wins in the end.

Good luck to both teams!

It has the makings to be a classic. While I'm not a lebron fan I enjoy watching him play and respect his talent which is amazing. I also wouldn't mind seeing Cleveland get their Championship although I would prefer it would be against another team and without Lebron. Lol.

If it goes seven, look for Lebron and Delly to be dead tired by the last game.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

It has the makings to be a classic. While I'm not a lebron fan I enjoy watching him play and respect his talent which is amazing. I also wouldn't mind seeing Cleveland get their Championship although I would prefer it would be against another team and without Lebron. Lol.

If it goes seven, look for Lebron and Delly to be dead tired by the last game.

I can't wait to see both teams at full strength for this series. Will Lebron guard either Curry or Thompson?

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Mike Anthony 9 years ago

Impressive all around performance from the Cavs. Will have to see if they can do it again before I think we have a series.
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9 years ago

I'll be the first one to say it..... Congrats to Tim and the Warriors.This Series is over with.
Just a formality now.

Truly one of the most amazing Seasons ever by an NBA team.

What really impressed me is the Warriors won it all without Curry playing very well as of lately.

This pretty much silenced the Critics (including myself lol) who said the Warriors were just a "good" team without Curry.

Fact is they are hell of a team when Curry is playing just average. I just think he has made everyone that much better on the Team.

Role players like Livingston and Iggy are such tough players. Livingston doesn't miss in the paint from 10 feet out. Reminds me of Parker's accuracy from that distance 4 or 5 years ago. Probably the most underrated player in NBA

Anyway Tim, let the bubbly flow. Celebration time

Now just 2 or 3 more and you can start talking Dynasty

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Fact is they are hell of a team when Curry is playing just average. I just think he has made everyone that much better on the Team.

Role players like Livingston and Iggy are such tough players. Livingston doesn't miss in the paint from 10 feet out. Reminds me of Parker's accuracy from that distance 4 or 5 years ago. Probably the most underrated player in NBA

Anyway Tim, let the bubbly flow. Celebration time

Now just 2 or 3 more and you can start talking Dynasty

Curry has made everyone better. It's his team.

Iggy isn't really a role player. When games really count he plays as much as the starters. Tonight it was iggy, Barnes, klay, Curry and Green. All around 40 minutes. I don't think another Warrior played over 20.

Thanks Robert but it ain't over yet. It's likely but we'll see. I'm going to game 5 I think. If we win that we can start talking about threepeats.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Curry has made everyone better. It's his team.

Iggy isn't really a role player. When games really count he plays as much as the starters. Tonight it was iggy, Barnes, klay, Curry and Green. All around 40 minutes. I don't think another Warrior played over 20.

Thanks Robert but it ain't over yet. It's likely but we'll see. I'm going to game 5 I think. If we win that we can start talking about threepeats.

Igoudala is a former all star and also was on the Olympic team and a couple of all defensive teams. I think he's more than a role player.

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discrat 9 years ago

I was surprised but this aint nothing the Warriors haven't faced before.
They will draw on last years experience with Grizzlies and Cavs and more than likely take this next game.

I just feel sorry for Warrior fans who paid all that money last night for tickets expecting a Championship celebration.
I guess they will have to wait another game or two

Please Tim tell me you didn't do this
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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Fantastic game by Cleveland but I don't know what all the shock and devastation is about that I am reading about (probably just media hype). In some venues its as if they were now even. In one respect last game does not bode well for Cleveland. If it were an all around good performance then you say well maybe they can turn it around but when you need Lebron and Kyrie to score over 40 to clinch a game - how likely is that you get that again?

Only wild card is does a game like that elevate the play of a young player like Kyrie to a new level? Game seven final would be nice though. Can't say i am not hoping for that .

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

If it were an all around good performance then you say well maybe they can turn it around but when you need Lebron and Kyrie to score over 40 to clinch a game - how likely is that you get that again?

It ain't gonna happen again. Not both of them. Not with Green back. Although Bogut is out for the series now, Green will get the defense back on track.

Funny how all the pundits were all over Erving before game 5 for shooting and dribbling too much but now they love his play.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

It ain't gonna happen again. Not both of them. Not with Green back. Although Bogut is out for the series now, Green

Perhaps but the dude does talk too much and earns his bad rep from those outside of Golden State

""I move on from the suspension. That was Game 5; we're here in Game 6 so it's behind us. We got an opportunity to do something that, I don't know if it's ever been done ... where you win a championship on someone else's floor two years in a row."- Green

be quiet dude. If you have that goal and want to savor beating them on their home court than have at it not tell the media all about how you are going to do it to them again on their home court (because he swears if he was playing in game five they win).

Just giving extra fire to the opponent for what reason? Telegraphing you are going to rub beating them on their home court in their face before you do is probably one of the greatest motivators you can give a team to play all out till they drop..

I know you defend him because he is on your team but so did Heat fans when Lebron defected. Guy pretty much earns his bad rep among non golden state fans.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Just giving extra fire to the opponent for what reason? Telegraphing you are going to rub beating them on their home court in their face before you do is probably one of the greatest motivators you can give a team to play all out till they drop..

Perhaps it will motivate them. Or it could get into their heads and place some doubt there. To lose the finals two years in a row at home to the same team is not a good thought to be thinking before another do or die game.

We'll see what happens. It's turned into a good series which is good for the nba. By the way, I read an article where Draymond was put into the trash talking hall of fame along with Jordan, Bird, Payton, Garnett, Reggie Miller and Kobe. Lol. Pretty good company.

By the way, here's a vine of Draymond getting into Lebrons head right after the scuffle they had in game 4. Lebron doesn't even want to look at Draymond. The blowing into the hand is either mocking what Lebron does or is covering some trash talking.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Perhaps it will motivate them. Or it could get into their heads and place some doubt there. To lose the finals two years in a row at home to the same team is not a good thought to be thinking before another do or die game.

We'll see what happens. It's turned into a good series which is good for the nba. By the way, I read an article where Draymond was put into the trash talking hall of fame along with Jordan, Bird, Payton, Garnett, Reggie Miller and Kobe. Lol. Pretty good company.

By the way, here's a vine of Draymond getting into Lebrons head right after the scuffle they had in game 4. Lebron doesn't even want to look at Draymond. The blowing into the hand is either mocking what Lebron does or is covering some trash talking.

http://vine.co/v/iLu1edtJjvq

As Klay Thompson said... this is a man's game. I doubt GS is worried about Draymond talking a little trash. Does he have some type of condition that forces him to kick? Is it always the same leg?

Anyways...

Last year the series went 6 games with two Cavs stars missing. It should go 7 games this time around or at least I hope it does.

Enjoy folks!!

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

As Klay Thompson said... this is a man's game.

Oh I am all for trash talking (figures right? lol) and can do my fair share - on the court. Thats getting in your opponents head during the game. The more time you give them to deal with the trash talk the less effective it is. Starting with it before the game all you are doing is creating motivation for the opposing coach to use.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Some Cavs fans started a gofundme page to keep Love from playing tonight. Lol. That's cold, man.

Curry says tonight is the biggest game of his career. Let's see how he responds. Should be a great game.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Some Cavs fans started a gofundme page to keep Love from playing tonight. Lol. That's cold, man.

Curry says tonight is the biggest game of his career. Let's see how he responds. Should be a great game.

haha. Now that is what I call, ingenuity lol /...... ouch!

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

We'll see what happens. It's turned into a good series which is good for the nba. By the way, I read an article where Draymond was put into the trash talking hall of fame along with Jordan, Bird, Payton, Garnett, Reggie Miller and Kobe. Lol. Pretty good company.

The most entertaining was Reggie and Spike on the sidelines. Garnett? meh thuggish no style to his trash talk.

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discrat

9 years ago

Wow really very surprisised to see this going to Game 7.

Curry really got rattled. Never seen him like that. But no big deal he is just a Competitor and only human.i

Still think GS will when at Home. They are overwhelming favorites.

I will say this.... if by some small chance Cavs do win it will be one of the Greatest Comebacks/Upsets these eyes I have ever seen in my 40+ years of being a Sports Nut.

I would rank it right up there with 1980 US Hockey win over USSR and Duke beating the "unbeatable " UNLV Runnin' Rebels and Larry Johnson in 1991 in Semi finals of Ncaa Tourney.

No pressure on you, Tim

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Mike Anthony

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Wow really very surprisised to see this going to Game 7.......
I would rank it right up there with 1980 US Hockey win over USSR and Duke beating the "unbeatable " UNLV Runnin' Rebels and Larry Johnson in 1991 in Semi finals of Ncaa Tourney.

Who would a thunk it at 3 -1?

I got to say one of the most impressive games I have watched of James. I am always going on about him having no artistry and bullying his way to the basket but that spin move he put on green was a thing of true beauty....pure artistry.

We were talking about trash talking before the game. James to Curry after he blocked him is how its done...in game..in your face and after you have made a play. Don;t know how much Green's comments impacted the fast start out the gate but he can take all that beat them on their home court two years in a row junk and be happy he still has home court advantage.

Its would take another herculean performance from James and Kyrie to beat the Warriors again on home court with a deafening home crowd. I don't know that anyone on that team has the steel nerves to play a huge game like that except Lebron but as a Cleveland Brown fans I will be rooting for the city of Cleveland and frankly win or lose their team comes out of this looking pretty good.

Plus though I 'm still a Steph fan Green's antics have just turned me off completely

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Floyd Fisher 9 years ago

Gotta hand it to LeBron James......he carried this team for the last 3 games.

Now you know why he's 'The King'.
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9 years ago

Stunning. Just Stunning ( that's the only word I have right at this exact moment)

I have never liked Lebron James. But I have to give credit where credit is due.
And the man was on a mission. Incredible play. And as MA pointed out he was not just playing with brute force but he was making passes and hitting finesse shots with consistency the last 3 games.

To me though , Kyrie is their MVP ! What a clutch 3 poniter at the end.

What balls lol
The guy is a beast

Cleveland is celebrating tonight with one of the greatest upsets/comeback ever seen in sports. Congrats to Cleveland and all you Ohioans out there

Of course GS has nothing to hang their head about. Tim, Im still saying at least 2 more championships for you guys.That's very conservative.Warriors are waaaay too great of a team to not have at least that many !!

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Janice Sperry

9 years ago

Great game.

Originally Posted by discrat

I have never liked Lebron James. But I have to give credit where credit is due.
And the man was on a mission. Incredible play. And as MA pointed out he was not just playing with brute force but he was making passes and hitting finesse shots with consistency the last 3 games.

I couldn't have said it any better than both discrat and MA.

It is easy to forget all the rehab and time away from the game from the ankle. Then the knee. I really don't think that Curry was ever the same after the knee injury. Maybe the pain was gone but he never really seemed to get his rhythm back. That is sad especially after such a freak accident. Most athletes don't want to let the oppo know if they are hurting but at least to me he just never got his killer instinct and confidence back quite like it was earlier in the season.

Green was incredible tonight and fun to watch.

The Cav's defense made a lot of mistakes but they never let up. They kept putting the pressure on. I don't think GS scored in the last 4 minutes.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Janice Sperry

It is easy to forget all the rehab and time away from the game from the ankle. Then the knee. I really don't think that Curry was ever the same after the knee injury. Maybe the pain was gone but he never really seemed to get his rhythm back. That is sad especially after such a freak accident. Most athletes don't want to let the oppo know if they are hurting but at least to me he just never got his killer instinct and confidence back quite like it was earlier in the season.

Green was incredible tonight and fun to watch.

Curry wasn't the same in the playoffs except for a few moments. Either he was playing hurt or he choked. I prefer to think it was the former. Lol. He has some sort of shoulder issues going on and along with a sore knee it affected both his outside and inside game.

Disappointing finals for Klay who played so well in the okc and Portland series. Consistency has been an issue with Thompson while Curry had one of the most consistently terrific seasons I have ever seen, up until these playoffs.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Stunning. Just Stunning ( that's the only word I have right at this exact moment)

I have never liked Lebron James. But I have to give credit where credit is due.
And the man was on a mission. Incredible play. And as MA pointed out he was not just playing with brute force but he was making passes and hitting finesse shots with consistency the last 3 games.

To me though , Kyrie is their MVP ! What a clutch 3 poniter at the end.

What balls lol
The guy is a beast

Cleveland is celebrating tonight with one of the greatest upsets/comeback ever seen in sports. Congrats to Cleveland and all you Ohioans out there

Of course GS has nothing to hang their head about. Tim, Im still saying at least 2 more championships for you guys.That's very conservative.Warriors are waaaay too great of a team to not have at least that many !!

To me though , Kyrie is their MVP ! What a clutch 3 poniter at the end.

Maybe your dislike of Lebron James helps you ignore this...

Or maybe you just didn't know.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Maybe your dislike of Lebron

Definitely a great series by Lebron and a well deserved mvp. I still don't like the guy much though and may have to put my curse on him now. I didn't really appreciate how he questioned the Warriors championship last year along with a few other Cavs, how he had to question whether Curry was really the most "valuable" and him wearing an "ultimate Warriors" t-shirt yesterday was pure trolling. Also, people are going to remember him baiting Green into a flagrant foul in game four and how the Cavs apparently lobbied very hard for a two game suspension. There's a reason people don't like him and it isn't just the "Decision" bs from a few years back. I can understand how Green can get under people's skin but Lebron is worse imo.

I must say, the Warriors are really taking the high road in the aftermath of the series.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Definitely a great series by Lebron and a well deserved mvp. I still don't like the guy much though and may have to put my curse on him now. I didn't really appreciate how he questioned the Warriors championship last year along with a few other Cavs, how he had to question whether Curry was really the most "valuable" and him wearing an "ultimate Warriors" t-shirt yesterday was pure trolling. Also, people are going to remember him baiting Green into a flagrant foul in game four and how the Cavs apparently lobbied very hard for a two game suspension. There's a reason people don't like him and it isn't just the "Decision" bs from a few years back. I can understand how Green can get under people's skin but Lebron is worse imo.

I must say, the Warriors are really taking the high road in the aftermath of the series.

LeBron isn't a bad guy, he's just unlikeable IMO. I think he's more a product of his generation than anything else and it's all about "me".

Now that the season is over...Mudiay didn't look as good as I hoped, although he really came on at the end of the season.

The Nugget rookie I REALLY liked is Nikola Jokic. He was a second round pick last year and came in 3rd for rookie of the year, behind only Karl-Anthony Towns and Porzingas. This kid can play. He reminds me a lot of Pau Gasol. His D needs work, but he can shoot, score, rebound and pass. He's one of those guys that was a point guard early in his BB career, then grew into a center.

We have 3 firsts and two seconds this year. I give credit to the Nuggets front office scouting Europe. They've come up with two second round picks the past two years in the second round that are players, including Jokic, so I wouldn't be surprised if we find another player in the second round.

The Nuggets actually have a number of good, young players. It was hard to get prospects to try out for us because we're pretty much two deep at every position. We need a star, not 5 more good young players. I hope we can make a trade for someone like Jimmy Butler or Kevin Love.

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Mike Anthony 9 years ago

Never gave him his due but Lebron now totally deserves to be in the discussion for GOAT

I thought Kyrie might have been rattled but that last three was cold blooded.

stunning but up under a minute just couldn't root against Cleveland fans who have seen so much heartache

Condolences to Tim but THATS a game 7 for all the marbles. It could only have been tighter if the game winner was at the buzzer
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  Great game. Lebron was just the third player to get a triple double in a finals game seven and he was actually outplayed by draymond who was one assist away from a triple double also.
  
  Disappointing finish to a great Warriors season. Time to rebuild and tear the team apart. Lol
  
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9 years ago

Well the good news TIm is that next season the Ws don't need to worry about breaking regular season records. Rest who they need to rest late in the season and hopefully they can add a piece here or there just for the expected matchups they think they might have an issue with.

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9 years ago

Mike, I really don't think the record had anything to do with their inconsistent erratic play in the playoffs. At least not physically because they were a very rested team all year. Mentally? Who knows?

They need to become a better playoff team. Usually it takes one or two final loses to win a championship but they won the first year they made it. I think this year's finals will make them a better playoff team. Hoping for that anyways.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Mike, I really don't think the record had anything to do with their inconsistent erratic play in the playoffs. At least not physically because they were a very rested team all year. Mentally? Who knows?

They need to become a better playoff team. Usually it takes one or two final loses to win a championship but they won the first year they made it. I think this year's finals will make them a better playoff team. Hoping for that anyways.

Tim, it's a long war.

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discrat 9 years ago

Yeah Durant to the Spurs would be nice. But I think he stays put in OKC

Btw, what's deal with JR Smith prancing around shirtless all week at several celebration venues ?
Thought Cavs and Lebron would have said something about it.

Damn ,professionals who have reached this pinnacle should show a little more class
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  So, Durant will be meeting with the Spurs, Warriors and Thunder in the next week. Before the finals ended I didn't think it likely that the Warriors had a chance. After the upset by the Cavs I felt they had a much better chance but still felt it was unlikely. The Ibaka trade for some made it more likely he will stay but I'm not so sure. Now that I hear that the Warriors will be meeting with Durant I feel like they could have a better chance of getting him. Although the meetings were expected I think him actually meeting with teams like the Spurs and Warriors will have a big influence on him and I know the Dubs will be going all out to convince him.
  
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Tim probably won't be online today. They are planning the routes for 2017.2018 and 2019 championship celebrations
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Originally Posted by kilgore

Cavs fan here.

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Browns fan myself so at some point sure would like to see Cleveland win a championship for the sports fan in Cleveland thats been through a lot of heart ache over the years (Manziel debacle this year...always something).

My real hope is to see 7 games, no matter who wins in the end.

If it gets to 7 I will certainly be rooting for the Cavs and hoping Thompson clanks it because

A) like I said Cleveland fans deserve it
B) I don't own the resident GS fan here anything after he didn't pick me for his imaginary Bball team and had me being picked last like he even knows how to make a jump shot
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Kurt

9 years ago

I think it will come down to whether JR Smith and Frye can hit enough 3s to keep up with the Dubs. JR is capable of getting as hot as anyone, he's also capable of being the biggest bonehead in the history of the NBA.

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Kurt

9 years ago

Best play of the game...Kerr going all Jackie Chan on his clipboard.

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Kurt

9 years ago

I really dislike how they string out the playoff games. Game 2 should have been today. There's no need for 3 days between games, especially when they didn't have to travel. IMO games should be played every other day, regardless of travel or not.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I really dislike how they string out the playoff games. Game 2 should have been today. There's no need for 3 days between games, especially when they didn't have to travel. IMO games should be played every other day, regardless of travel or not.

Yes, I agree Kurt. I think the nba is trying to extend the season to keep the junkies addicted. :p Plus they want to have finals games on Sundays to get more viewers.

Btw, game one broke ratings records for the first game of the nba finals.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Yes, I agree Kurt. I think the nba is trying to extend the season to keep the junkies addicted. :p Plus they want to have finals games on Sundays to get more viewers.

Btw, game one broke ratings records for the first game of the nba finals.

Nope, not at all.

The real reason, is another championship series is going on at the same time, the Stanley Cup Finals. San Jose Sharks are playing (same fan base as Golden State), and showing both games on the same night will negatively impact ratings.

Better to spread it out and not force fans to decide witch game to watch on any given night.

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Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher

Better to spread it out and not force fans to decide witch game to watch on any given night.

You may be right but that's not a problem with me because I can't watch more than a few minutes of the NHL, even with my hometown team in the finals. I tried but just can't do it. Lol

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9 years ago

Denver Post columnist Woody Paige is calling Tyronn Lue "Toodle Lue", as in he'll be gone after this series.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Denver Post columnist Woody Paige is calling Tyronn Lue "Toodle Lue", as in he'll be gone after this series.

Lol. Yep, from what I heard, the Cavs never created a new contract for Lue when he took over as head coach.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Lol. Yep, from what I heard, the Cavs never created a new contract for Lue when he took over as head coach.

I don't think anyone can coach the Cleveland LeBrons. Although it will never happen I have to admit, for pure soap opera entertainment, I'd love to see George Karl and LeBron together.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I don't think anyone can coach the Cleveland LeBrons. Although it will never happen I have to admit, for pure soap opera entertainment, I'd love to see George Karl and LeBron together.

I remember when Karl coached the Warriors and he had big issues with our friend JB Carroll. Reportedly one night after a game when Karl didn't appreciate JB's effort he took out his frustrations on a locker. Lol

I wonder how Popovich would deal with coaching Lebron?

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

I blame the singing of the national anthem by the Cleveland crowd for that loss. I swear, by the end of it I was thinking "oh shit. Let Cleveland win this game."
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

I remember when Karl coached the Warriors and he had big issues with our friend JB Carroll. Reportedly one night after a game when Karl didn't appreciate JB's effort he took out his frustrations on a locker. Lol

I wonder how Popovich would deal with coaching Lebron?

That's been Karl's problem throughout his career...he can't seem to get along with the best players on his team.

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9 years ago

Love's concussion protocol was a blessing in disguise. Lue was forced to make a lineup change which he should have done since 3rd quarter of game 2.

Interesting to see what he will do with Love once he comes back. I say he get him off the bench and stay with his starting lineup of RJ at 3 and LBJ on 4. Game 2 was an eye opener. No one on the team except for James can guard Draymond Green 1 on 1 and it showed in Game 3 (6 points)

If Kerr decides to start Iggy over Bogut, then it's a new ballgame.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

What's going on with the splash brothers? Tim, where does that moniker originate from? Is this series going to be all blowouts? Well now it's going at least 5 games.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

What's going on with the splash brothers? Tim, where does that moniker originate from? Is this series going to be all blowouts? Well now it's going at least 5 games.

Not sure really, TL. I think a big part of their low scoring in this series has been because of the Cavs defense on them and Curry and Klay's willingness to pass the ball and let their teammates score. However Curry hasn't played anywhere close to what he's done all year in these playoffs except for a few games. Thompson is a streaky shooter but has had his best post season by far in these playoffs unail the finals. The Warriors didn't really need them to score in the first two games but did need them in game three.

The nickname splash brothers was coined by a writer for the Warriors website in 2012 and is a play on nickname bash brothers which was used for Oakland Athletics stars José Canseco and mark Mcguire.

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9 years ago

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9 years ago

Just wishful thinking on my part, but I wonder if the Cavs would take our #7 in the first round and Kenneth Faried for Kevin Love? I think Faried would fit in well with the Cavs since he doesn't need to have the ball on offense and we really need a scorer.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Just wishful thinking on my part, but I wonder if the Cavs would take our #7 in the first round and Kenneth Faried for Kevin Love? I think Faried would fit in well with the Cavs since he doesn't need to have the ball on offense and we really need a scorer.

That may be a deal the Cavs would go for. I would if I were them. I'm just glad the Warriors didn't trade Klay for love like there were thinking of doing two years ago. I believe the Logo was strongly against that trade.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

I missed most of the game because I had to chauffeur my kid and her friends to the Beyonce concert last night in Baltimore.

Yea, congrads Tim. If the team can stay together and injury free, I can see another 3 or 4 titles before it's all over. Enjoy your run and enjoy game #5.

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9 years ago

Cleveland lives to fight another day.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

I knew the Dubs would struggle defensively without Draymond but you have to give Lebron and Erving credit. Great game by them.
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9 years ago

What a clankfest for the Dubs in the first quarter...But, it's better to be down 20 after the first than in the 4th.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

What a clankfest for the Dubs in the first quarter...But, it's better to be down 20 after the first than in the 4th.

That first quarter was ridiculous. Uhg. 2nd quarter was better but geesh... the Dubs look like shit. Curry is shooting great but still making dumb ass passes and stupid fouls. Erving is playing great.
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Well, well, well.

Looks like we have the game #7 I wanted. If the Cavs can withstand that early GS push out of the gate, they have a real chance of pulling off the upset. Have the Cavs D'd up the Warriors? Cavs have already beaten the Warriors at Arco in this series.

I would just love to see a tight game going into the final period (not quarter) while I snack on a peach danish smothered with vanilla ice cream after putting it in the toaster oven for a few minutes.

Enjoy!!!!!

Ps. Curry getting ejected was a hoot.

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9 years ago

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Sometimes, in fact most of the time, it just comes down to making or not making shots. The Warriors are missing many shots they normally make and the Cavs are making shots they normally miss.

Over the previous two games of the NBA Finals, the Cleveland Cavaliers have outscored the Golden State Warriors by 29 points. But based on the quality of each team’s shots and the skill of the players shooting, the Warriors should have scored about 19 more points than the Cavaliers.

How can that be?

Golden State has been getting better looks than the Cavaliers, but simply has not been making its shots.

Quantified Shot Probability (qSP) is the expected field goal percentage of a shot given a number of factors that affect the shot quality and the skill of the shooter.

* The Warriors have an effective field goal percentage that's about 8 percentage points lower than expected, given their shot quality and shooter skill over the last two games. If they had had an average shooting game for shooters of their skill, they would have averaged about 125 points per game.

* The Cavaliers have an effective field goal percentage 6.5 percentage points higher than expected, given their shot quality and shooter skill. If they had had an average shooting game for themselves, they would have averaged about 103 points per game.

Here's the article that goes into the statistics behind this.
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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Sometimes, in fact most of the time, it just comes down to making or not making shots. The Warriors are missing many shots they normally make and the Cavs are making shots they normally miss.

Here's the article that goes into the statistics behind this.
Warriors missing shots they should make; Cavaliers making theirs - Stats & Info- ESPN

Good luck tomorrow night Tim.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Well, well, well.

Looks like we have the game #7 I wanted. If the Cavs can withstand that early GS push out of the gate, they have a real chance of pulling off the upset. Have the Cavs D'd up the Warriors? Cavs have already beaten the Warriors at Arco in this series.

I would just love to see a tight game going into the final period (not quarter) while I snack on a peach danish smothered with vanilla ice cream after putting it in the toaster oven for a few minutes.

Enjoy!!!!!

Ps. Curry getting ejected was a hoot.

Curry needs to play with emotion. I've seen him play great many times after getting pissed. Hopefully he'll keep that anger going into game seven Sunday.

I don't think it's the Cavs defense TL. For example, Barnes is missing so many wide open shots the Cavs feel like they don't have to try to guard him. Hell, they probably want him to shoot at this point. Barnes value as a free agent probably has gone down a few dozen millions because of his play in these playoffs.

The Warriors just won the first two games too easily without really playing their best ball. They were thinking sweep like I was probably and then let the Cavs get their confidence. I expect a great game Sunday because the Warriors play pretty good with their backs against the wall too.

Btw, the peach danish warmed up and smothered with ice cream sounds great! :p

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

The Warriors just won the first two games too easily without really playing their best ball. They were thinking sweep like I was probably and then let the Cavs get their confidence. I expect a great game Sunday because the Warriors play pretty good with their backs against the wall too.

Btw, the peach danish warmed up and smothered with ice cream sounds great! :p

Geeesh I was all set to cheer for the Cavs and then I read you not sounding as confident as you usually do and now I got to thinking what it will make my brother from another mother feel for his team to lose. If I had a date to set you up with after the game to take the edge off I'd still go Cavs but don't.

now I am right back on the fence with all my cleveland brownie fans to consider as well .

Meh....you even thanked my post where I said I was going to cheer Cavs reminding me

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Lets Go Warriors! (but hoping Green gets laryngitis)

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Geeesh I was all set to cheer for the Cavs and then I read you not sounding as confident as you usually do and now I got to thinking what it will make my brother from another mother feel for his team to lose. If I had a date to set you up with after the game to take the edge off I'd still go Cavs but don't.

now I am right back on the fence with all my cleveland brownie fans to consider as well .

Meh....you even thanked my post where I said I was going to cheer Cavs reminding me

Family first

Lets Go Warriors! (but hoping Green gets laryngitis)

Tim, if the Warriors do lose I will feel for you. Literally !!

As I know what heatbreak is like after 2013 Finals with Heat. SA up 5 with 20 seconds left for us to win it all.. And they even started rolling the trophy out and then Ray Allen hit that 3 pointer and he told them to "f*ckin*" roll the Trophy back off the Court

I couldn't sleep for days after that. LOL

If GS doesn't win .....imo they will win still 2 or 3 more (maybe even more) before it all said and done.

P.S. Tim , for your enjoyment at my expense ( just in case the unthinkable happens tomorrow) you can refer to this and realize Iam right there with you and you do not walk alone in the Darkness

( NOTE: Yes, I can watch it NOW without the Flashbacks LOL..Of course blowing out Heat the next year in Finals helped alleviate that somewhat

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Kurt

9 years ago

It's been a strange series. The individual games haven't been very exciting, but the overall series has. Game 7 will be one of the most anticipated final games ever.

I'm concerned for the Dubs with Bogut out and Igoudala obviously hurting. IMO, Festus really needs to come through and somewhat counter Tristan Thompson's production.

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Kurt

9 years ago

And a shout out to Craig Sager. It's cool that ABC had him on the sidelines.

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Janice Sperry

9 years ago

I have enjoyed the insights from all of you all year. This has been the only thread I regularly return to.

Whichever team wins they deserve it. Can't always say that ever year.

I have been rooting for GS the whole series and I still hope they win. Like most people I hope it is a close game. Curry has had so many special games all year I hope he has one for the record books.

I hate the officiating in the finals and even quit watching them for many years. It has never made sense to me to start allowing them "to play". For an athlete to play one way for the entire season and then the same fouls are now suddenly overlooked is rediculus. I don't care what anyone says it does not make for better basketball. Some of the games this year have just been outright brawls under the basket. Six fouls going on at the same time and none of them called. Then some player gets called for something that was overlooked just a minute earlier. How can you get consistent and fair officiating when it is so hit and miss. No wonder the players get so angry when the calls are so random and arbitrary. I say it would be much better to attempt to officiate the same way they do all year. End of rant!

Let's hope for a good game in 5 minutes!

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Kurt

9 years ago

I feel for you Tim....but it's also good that Cleveland finally won a championship in any sport.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Wow! What a game & the drought is over for Cleveland. What a story. Lebron ditching Cleveland ( after the Browns also ditched Cleveland) then coming back home - after trailing 3 games to 1 , to win a championship for all the Cleveland fans who have suffered for over fitty years.

I got exactly what I wanted, a great game from wire to wire. Tim, I'm not sure what to say except "that's why they play the games". I predicted before the game via text to one of my nephews that no team would score more than 92 points and I was off by a point. At less that 90 points in this most crucial game, I'm going to have to say that the mighty Warrior offense was D'd Up. While Cleveland coach Tyron Lue gets the last laugh on his critics.

Key stats:

- Warriors only 38% from the field & go only 10-13 from the line while the Cavs go 21-25 in Arco.

- Splash Brothers go only 12-36 from floor.

FYI:

Look out for these same teams to meet up again in the NBA Finals for the rubber match next year.

I watched the game with my 82 year-old uncle who was raised in Cleveland and he loved it. The toasted peach danish smothered in vanilla ice cream at the beginning of the 4th period was scrumptious - to say the least.

Unfortunately, that's all she wrote for this 2015-2016 NBA season. The king is dead, long live the king.

Congrats to the new kings of the NBA.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Wow! What a game & the drought is over for Cleveland. What a story. Lebron ditching Cleveland ( after the Browns also ditched Cleveland) then coming back home - after trailing 3 games to 1 , to win a championship for all the Cleveland fans who have suffered for over fitty years.

Dude impressed me bawling on the floor (how many times in a lifetime can you say that sentence). Its obvious this one means more to him than any in Miami and he's matured. He's earned redemption and the whole taking my skills to South Beach is stricken from the official record.

- Splash Brothers go only 12-36 from floor.

Thats the problem with the long long ball. it will bring in you into greatness and leave you hangin at the wrong time as well. Steph has the skillls to break down a defense with his dribble and drive to the basket more but his three point long ball keeps him form doing it and developing it more where most of the time he would get the basket or draw the foul

Look out for these same teams to meet up again in the NBA Finals for the rubber match next year.

"there is another"

Let not forget OKC will have something big to say about that

I watched the game with my 82 year-old uncle who was raised in Cleveland and he loved it.

Shout out to all my brownie dawg pound fans. there was no "The drive" and there was no "the fumble" this time. Wooof!

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Interesting that Vegas has the Warriors as favorites to win the title next year after this finals. Last year they had Cleveland the favorites to win after the Warriors won.
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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Dude impressed me bawling on the floor (how many times in a lifetime can you say that sentence). Its obvious this one means more to him than any in Miami and he's matured. He's earned redemption and the whole taking my skills to South Beach is stricken from the official record.

My take.....it was absolutely crucial for LeBron to go to Miami. There was a guy down there he needed to learn from, and that guy was Pat Riley.

You could see his growth every year, becoming the leader that Miami desperately needed. By year 4 there, it was no question he had grown as a player and a man.

Had he stayed in Cleveland, would he have become the same player he is now? I don't think so, not to the extent he did going to Miami that's for sure.

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9 years ago

Other than the Nuggets draft, I'm sure the biggest question this off season will be if Durant returns to OKC or not. There's been some rumors that he could go to the Dubs, but if I were them I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't mess with the chemistry if I were the Dubs.

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TLTheLiberator

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Other than the Nuggets draft, I'm sure the biggest question this off season will be if Durant returns to OKC or not. There's been some rumors that he could go to the Dubs, but if I were them I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't mess with the chemistry if I were the Dubs.

Don't be surprised if Durant ends up in the purple & gold!

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

One of the Warriors owners said they would be very aggressive this off season and of course they are interested in Durant. I think with the Warriors losing the finals they have a better chance of getting him but my guess is he will stay with okc at least in the short term because how well they played in the playoffs.

I just read that the Warriors are interested in signing Dirk Nowitzki. Now that would be an interesting fit. Dirk played pretty darn well this year for a guy his age.
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9 years ago

...and the happiest person in the world today is Michael Jordan. It looks like "Crying LeBron" is the new popular meme on the Net and may take over all the "Crying Jordan" memes which MJ hates.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

...and the happiest person in the world today is Michael Jordan. It looks like "Crying LeBron" is the new popular meme on the Net and may take over all the "Crying Jordan" memes which MJ hates.

Good. It should be named the crybaby Lebron though. Lol Has more of a ring to it.

ScottI Pippin is happy too because now there isn't any debate about whether the 2016 Warriors or 94 Bulls are better. He actually tweeted something like that today.

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9 years ago

Fivethirtyeight has a good article about the Warriors and Curry which pretty much concludes what Janice and I said: Curry was affected by the injuries he sustained in the playoffs, which started with his ankle being sprained in game one of their opening series against Houston. After seeing him play all year I knew he wasn't the same.

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JUN 20, 2016 AT 5:41 PM

Is The Stephen Curry Revolution Over Already?
By Benjamin Morris

Filed under NBA Playoffs
There can be no diminishing the accomplishments of LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers, who came back from a 3-1 series deficit to end the Golden State Warriors’ reign as NBA champions. King James deserves every accolade he receives — and I’m sure he’ll have words for the doubters who didn’t think this was possible. Like me.

I’ve been bullish on the Warriors for a while now. Early in the season, I wrote about Stephen Curry’s ability to handle virtually any shooting burden before I even knew that he was a legitimate threat from 30 feet. My operating theory was that Curry should take more and more and more 3-pointers. In the final game of the season, he had 14 attempts (yay!) but made only four (oops).

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Teams with recent championship experience tend to be money in the playoffs, and this Warriors squad seemed not to be affected much by the strength of their opponents — both of which should have made the team bigger favorites than even our models suggested. So when the winningest team in NBA history needed to win only two of five (and then one of three) games against a team it had beaten all four times they played this season — by an average of 22 points — I felt pretty good about my position. I was wrong.

The Warriors ended up losing as many games in the playoffs as they did in the regular season, finishing with a particularly un-GOATish 7-7 stretch against Oklahoma City and Cleveland. Although a 14-game break-even stretch doesn’t sound horrible, it would be highly improbable for a team that won 90 percent of its games, as the Warriors had with Curry playing. Of course, the Thunder and Cavaliers were stronger than the Warriors’ typical opponents (the Warriors did go 5-0 against them during the regular season, and remember they crushed strong opponents as easily as weak ones throughout the season), though this is partly offset by the Warriors’ home-court advantage.

A result like that 7-7 raises questions: Have the Warriors been solved? Is Curry unable to carry an offense single-handedly after all, or was his run of bad form because of something else, like a lingering injury? From an empirical standpoint, this bizarre end to the season doesn’t tell us as much as we would like, but it does hold a few insights.

Although Curry’s performance in the playoffs clearly regressed from his in the regular season, why that happened is unclear. There are, however, reasons to believe it was more than simply a run of bad shooting luck, but not something as dim as the Golden State model succumbing to playoff basketball. Since his first injury, in Game 1 against the Houston Rockets, Curry hasn’t really been Curry. He’s struggled to turn the corner on defenders on his way to the rim, and he’s had a troubling turnover rate, which may have happened (in part) because he found himself with unfamiliar passing lanes after being unable to create his usual space. Curry’s dropoff was also evident in his shooting weeks ago, and it hasn’t improved. Since his return, Curry has been worse in virtually every significant metric — even compared to his pre-injury performance against the same opponents:

GAMES 3 POINT PERC. 2 POINT PERC. GAME SCORE RECORD WIN PERC.
Pre-injury, non-playoff opponents 44.8% 56.5% 24.3 61-7 89.7%
Pre-injury, playoff opponents 49.6 56.6 25.8 11-1 91.7
Post-injury 39.3 48.5 17.1 10-7 58.8
Post-injury Steph played worse, won less
SOURCE: BASKETBALL-REFERENCE.COM

Game Score is an imperfect metric for combining box score stats, but in this case, it gets the job done. Pre-injury, Curry performed better against his playoff opponents this season than he did against a typical team.1 Moreover, he performed similarly against all four squads.

Looking at the bottom line: The Warriors went 10-7 with Curry playing after his first injury. Again, although that doesn’t look dramatic, the likelihood of it happening by chance alone can be quite slim: For a team that wins 90 percent of games, the chances of losing seven of 17 are around 1 in 10,000.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...-over-already/

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Kurt

9 years ago

BTW, with Cleveland winning a championship, I believe that San Diego is now the city with the longest championship drought for any of the 4 main sports leagues.

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TimPhelan 9 years ago

Reports saying the Bulls traded Derrick Rose to the Knicks for Lopez, Calderon, Grant and a pick. Also, Atlanta reportedly traded Teague to Pacers.
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  Reports saying the Bulls traded Derrick Rose to the Knicks for Lopez, Calderon, Grant and a pick. Also, Atlanta reportedly traded Teague to Pacers.
  
  With the Cavs winning the championship and the Bulls trading Rose, the Nuggets chances of trading for either Love or Jimmy Butler seem to have gone from long shot to no shot.
  
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Kurt

9 years ago

In before the draft...my realistic "wish list" (meaning Simmons won't be available) is (in order):

Hield
Bender
Chriss

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

In before the draft...my realistic "wish list" (meaning Simmons won't be available) is (in order):

Hield
Bender
Chriss

Well, the Nuggets didn't pick Chris but it sounds like they got some very good talent. Damn, seemed like every other pick was by the Celtics, Nuggets or sixers.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by TimPhelan

Well, the Nuggets didn’t pick Chris but it sounds like they got some very good talent. Damn, seemed like every other pick was by the Celtics, Nuggets or sixers.

I don't mind Murray. He was #3 on the Nuggets draft board. Murray may well end up being a better player than Hield. The reason I wanted Hield so much is because the Nuggets don't have any players that anyone outside of Denver is interested in. While Melo isn't my favorite player, there was some national interest for him.

It looks like the Nugs are following the Dubs, since all 3 of our #1 picks are considered shooters. It seems we now have a real log-jam of young talented 6'5" players.

IMO, the Nugs are really in a bad spot long term. We have enough good players that we'll never get a really high, franchise player in the draft and we aren't good enough to make playoff run...and I don't have a clue what to do about it.

If the Knicks can get a center like Dwight or Noah, they could be tough.

IMO, the best landing spot for Durant on paper is the Spurs, if he doesn't stay in OKC. I think Durant fits in best with the Spurs since their main scorers seem to get their points without needing to have the ball a lot.

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TimPhelan

9 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I don't mind Murray. He was #3 on the Nuggets draft board. Murray may well end up being a better player than Hield...

It looks like the Nugs are following the Dubs, since all 3 of our #1 picks are considered shooters. It seems we now have a real log-jam of young talented 6'5" players.

IMO, the Nugs are really in a bad spot long term. We have enough good players that we'll never get a really high, franchise player in the draft and we aren't good enough to make playoff run...and I don't have a clue what to do about it.

Well, Curry was a 7th pick as well and at the time he wasn't considered a franchise player. And draymond was picked well into the 2nd round and he is now considered a prototype small ball center/power forward, 3 and d, that other teams are trying to duplicate. You just never know.

I think the important thing is to build a team culture of getting better. How big of an upside does a player have? It's hard to determine this in a draft but it is vital. A team can have a huge effect on that improvement of individual players