Burn me now!

I am colludin' with the forces of evil!

What does make sense to me is the numbers don't lie. Close to 50% of all marriages end in divorce and 88% of those divorces are instigated by WOMEN. So quite frankly, who gives a flying F what upsets women or what they perceive as cheating. What matters is that you don't put yourself at risk when she loses her mind and decides she's not happy anymore for WHATEVER reason!

Men who get married have a 50% chance of losing most of their entire life's wealth and energy just because they once said I DO when they were young and clueless. Does that sound like a good bet to you? HELLA NOI Hence why I've never got married, never had kids and I'm VERY happy about that. FREEDOM never gets old brahs. Everyday is a sunny day when you live life on your own terms without being bogged down into domestic drudgery.

Enjoy your relationships for what they are while they're fun, hot and exciting and then move on. Do that and you'll always get to walk away free and clear, happy and unscathed with some fond memories. And FFS don't get them pregnant eh, don't be a total F-tard!

TEACH THAT IN SCHOOLS and the high male suicide rate in males over 35 will surely drop!

Ray, where did you ever get the bit about school preparing you for life?
Good grief, when you've got 16, 17 even 18 year old young adults having
to ask for permission to go to the restroom; what's the message being sent?

As to a successful marriage, I think it's simple. Some people just enjoy each other's company. They can't imagine life any other way.

No need for drama, therapy or cheating.

And decades later, the joy they find together is so deeply rooted, nothing short of
death can unhinge it.

That's why marriage no longer requires one man and one woman. Today we have a myriad of choices.

Men are from Mars. Women are from Venus. Claude is from Uranus.

Suzanne, I know all too well it takes more to build a home than it does to bring home the bacon. When the woman has done that, she deserves half and the dude trying to deny her half is useless. I wasn't in that situation -- she didn't do anything to keep up the house, spent my money, went chasing tail on the weekends, and started being abusive towards my daughter. She was against my internet business the entire time I owned it. She didn't help build it, and definitely didn't deserve half.

I have no intentions of being married 3 or 4 times lmao. You're not wrong about the "most men" thing. Not all marriages are created equal, though. I think it's almost more a problem with the guy having his entire life and living arrangements dictated by a marriage than it is with the woman. If he lets things happen he's not comfortable with, he's bending and she'll lose respect for him eventually. Those are called bad marriages.

It's all perspective. I used to swear I'd never get married, and after leaving my ex I'd have every reason not to. The benefits outweigh the costs, though. A good woman can change your life in ways you'd never imagine.

My grandparents have been married for 48 years, and they still prank each other. Constantly laughing, stirring the pot, and keeping each other on their toes. Not all marriages end badly.

I'm thinking more along the lines of women like my ex, and a lot of the gold diggers in my family. They see men as a meal ticket, that they can use, abuse, and divorce when he's got nothing left -- taking whatever they can with them in the process. Marrying a man knowing you're going to end up getting divorced and taking as much as you can is legalized theft -- in my eyes.

"Holding it down" -- to me -- means not blowing all your money, being abusive, trying to cheat, and generally being a bad wife.

The women who put in as much as their man deserve half, and no judge would deny her that. Giving him the ability to do what he does, and picking up his slack along the way. Any man who tried to deny her that deserved the hell that would be coming his way. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

Ray,

I appreciate your thought as far as needing to learn communication and other aspects of having a long lasting, happy marriage. It's just like anything else important such as getting fit and healthy, making money, raising kids, etc. It takes learning and continuous improvement to have long lasting success.

However, with my traditional, more conservative, religious values and beliefs, I don't want people that don't share those beliefs teaching my kids about how to have a happy and long lasting marriage. For example, can you imagine if our cartoon character in this thread was the professor teaching about marriage?

It needs to be done but not in the public sector I don't think.

Mark

My wife and I have had these discussions. I tend to ask, "When you say that, do you mean...?."

Women have layers of emotions that men don't. They read things into what we say, because their brains are far better wired that men's. True. They expect us to have a subtlety of meaning, that we just don't possess.

I explained to my wife a few times;

"Dear, we process information differently. When we communicate, women have an advantage. They have subtleties of meaning and nuance that men don't possess. There is no way for me to evolve to understand how you think. You have to simplify how you talk. "

She tries, and I try. But I know this; If she asks my how the pot roast tastes...it's a trap. If she says, "I think it could use a little more salt. What do you think?"

The correct answer is, "It's perfect the way it is. You're a fantastic cook".

Anything else, will get a perfectly made pot roast...thrown in the garbage. And an unhappy wife.

I'm warning you..Guys......any time they ask your opinion, on anything having to do with them.....it's a trap. Fake passing out if you have to...just never say, "That dress looks great. I like it almost as much as the other dress" Because she will never wear that dress again.

And when you are watching TV, and a beautiful girl show up on the screen...never...NEVER say, "Wow"........NEVER!


I speak Womanese. And my life is so much better after I was neutered.



It doesn't work that way with boobs. Scientific fact.

lmao Claude I'm waiting for the book. Except for the being neutered part. That's not required, right?

In my opinion, your premise is faulty.



Joe Mobley

You've got me wanting to defend women lol -- especially the ones that get custody and raise their kids, while the man pays a % of his earnings. He's getting off easy.

If he made $100,000 a month, the children are entitled to 15% of it. You're saying $15,000 a month is too much, but if the family were still in tact, the kids would have access to a LOT more than $15,000 worth of lifestyle.

Judges don't just pass out child support to gold digging women that run around on their husbands and abuse their marriage. I'm proof. Some women may pull it off, but it's not as common as you're making it out.

The dads that get reamed over the coals usually weren't available in their child's lives to begin with, so the mother has to support them entirely -- financially, included. If he cheats, he didn't really care for his family in the first place, and will take care of them in any way the judge thinks he can. To the tune of 15% per kid.

My lawyer has 7 kids with 4 women and doesn't pay any of them a dime in child support. They're all friends. He picks up every tab his kids have, medical, school, extra curricular. The ex-wives moved on, he moved on, the kids are better off for it.

There's no way to lay blanket statements across this topic.

I keep getting that you think men are weak and can't keep themselves out of these situations by avoiding those types of women, or picking themselves up and moving on, accepting that they've made a bad decision -- should they ever find themselves in the situation.

If that's true, that's the reason for divorce. If you go into it with a time frame in mind, it's always going to end badly and you'll keep the same attitude.

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Its practically 2016 - you can cheat with the opposite gender or the same. So unless there are more couples than I thought down here - all you regular posters posting every day multiple times a day are CHEATERS!

Same can be said, I'm scared you're going to end up all by yourself on a death bed with nobody to give a damn because you had preconceived notions about women for so long.

I know what you're saying, and I instantly dismiss a majority of the women I interact with as falling into that line of thinking -- wanting to be taken care of. The type of women you're categorizing them all as do exist. A majority of women fall into that category.

There's women in the world that don't want jack you've got to offer other than yourself, too. Separate bank accounts isn't unheard of these days. If divorce does happen, for whatever reason, split the house down the middle and move on. You'll know before you get married how the relationship is going to go, though.

My experience getting out of a bad marriage taught me quite a bit about how a good one should go. I'm not jaded because of what happened. I'm glad I learned the lessons I've learned.

In the court's eyes it's not about how little you can raise a child on comfortably. It's about the lifestyle they were entitled to before the divorce. Being an active father involved in their child's life prevents being reamed over the coals, financially.

You're obviously not going to get married and have children, so you won't get what I'm laying down. There's more to the picture than you're seeing, or letting on.

Don't be scared for me lol, I know what I'm doing.

Jus' checkin' we are talking' about the same kinda here, ie one that is attached to a restuva guy.

Cos' there is nuthin' worse than a in isolation squirtin' a whole buncha crapola — not that we ever see that kinda dismembered brahvissimo in OT.

Marriage is a waste of time. Just a facade. If you love someone, stay with her for life. You don't need marriage to be together because it only changes the love.

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The usual pattern is emerging here. Everyone disagrees with me yet most of you are burdened with kids, have been through divorces, paying child support, moving from place to place dictated to by your failed relationships. Quite frankly you've all been running around like headless chickens. So silly and un-necessary. There must be a better way right? Well yes, yes there is.

If you're a young single man reading this post and you've not yet had kids or been married. Re-read MY posts in this thread 20 times and don't listen to anyone else, they don't have a clue. They'd have you risking your life on the toss of a coin. I'm the only one here who has your back. I live my life by 3 rules. I have NEVER deviated from these rules and I'm happy as hell, EVERY DAY, no stress, no hassles, I've got enough money to do whatever I like, whenever I like cos no woman has spent it all and I'm not being kept on a tight leash like most of these guys. I always have 2-3 women under 27 on the go at any one time so I get a lot of QUALITY companionship and by quality I mean "I get laid" REGULARLY and then they leave and I can watch sports and chill with my friends.

The 3 rules to win at life as a man.

1. NEVER GET MARRIED! There are no exceptions to this rule. Don't do it! EVER!

2. Never have kids unless you desperately want them like a big girls blouse, will love them dearly and ALREADY have your career or business sorted whereby you're making serious bank, have savings and investments and enough cash to grow all your interests unencumbered. You need to be wealthy to have kids if you really must have them. So you can afford a full time nanny to do all the boring tedious stuff of which most of it is. But honestly, just don't have them. Are you English Royalty? Do you want to carry on the royal bloodline? Then why are you being such a narcissist! Get real, just avoid having children at all costs if you can.

3. NEVER LIVE WITH ANYONE! Never allow a woman to move into your place. Your home is YOUR castle. Only your name goes on the deeds! Never allow anyone to have any legal right to your house or any portion of it. Control your own environment from day 1. OWN the roof over your head and never allow a woman to stay over more than 2 nights max, preferably only 1.

Follow these 3 basic rules and you will be so thankful to yourself when you get a little older. You will literally want to jump back in time to hug the younger you who made such amazing life decisions.

Do you know what my married friends say to me? they say, Jesus dude, I'm in bed with my naked wife every night yet you get more action than me. My married friends are LUCKY to get sex more than ONCE PER MONTH! And thats ALL OF THEM. Most of them get sex less than that. Can you imagine that. TRAGIC! And that is because marriage KILLS sex between 2 people. Trust me, after 5 to 10 years you won't even want sex with your wife, you'll be thinking up ways to get out of it, not that she'll want it either, well not with you anyway.

I have so much to teach, I can see that. Good job I got here when I did. I should charge for this stuff. I'm literally saving young warrior lives and ensuring they prosper and keep their fortunes. Happy days.