Are you a marketing masturbater?

BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

I am happy to say that my masturbation has absolutely nothing to do with marketing.

Thanks for sharing.

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Jouvan Johnson 8 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

I am happy to say that my masturbation has absolutely nothing to do with marketing.

Thanks for sharing.

Frank

I'm glad to hear it mate lol.

Mine too
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dana67

8 years ago

Marketing masturbater, lol. What a title. I enjoy marketing, but haven't had an orgasm doing it.

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BigFrank Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by dana67

Marketing masturbater, lol. What a title. I enjoy marketing, but haven't had an orgasm doing it.

You're obviously not doing it correctly. :-)

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Jouvan Johnson 8 years ago

Originally Posted by dana67

Marketing masturbater, lol. What a title. I enjoy marketing, but haven't had an orgasm doing it.

Lol there is still time
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Marcus W K Wong

8 years ago

This is almost borderline the forum rules in the 'offensive' category lol

So to drive the education of this to make sure it flows well to members, this is an interesting write up, not just because of the content or innuendos (which I'll admit holds entertaining value), but the keywords.

Thinking about the kind of people you attract by using these keywords is not ideal but, think about it... the keywords here are 'pleasuring, school, girl, moan, masturbation, fitness, story, sweat' all of which would attract a certain kind of traffic, which is traffic nevertheless.

Aside from that, the message is extremely powerful and I do appreciate Jouvan for sharing. Treating your purchases as an actual investment rather than out of pure FOMO will always give you the appreciation of results.

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Fras

8 years ago

Originally Posted by WFMarcus

This is almost borderline the forum rules in the 'offensive' category lol

So to drive the education of this to make sure it flows well to members, this is an interesting write up, not just because of the content or innuendos (which I'll admit holds entertaining value), but the keywords.

Thinking about the kind of people you attract by using these keywords is not ideal but, think about it... the keywords here are 'pleasuring, school, girl, moan, masturbation, fitness, story, sweat' all of which would attract a certain kind of traffic, which is traffic nevertheless.

Aside from that, the message is extremely powerful and I do appreciate Jouvan for sharing. Treating your purchases as an actual investment rather than out of pure FOMO will always give you the appreciation of results.

Yes you are right.........I agree you reply.

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Jouvan Johnson

8 years ago

Originally Posted by WFMarcus

This is almost borderline the forum rules in the 'offensive' category lol

So to drive the education of this to make sure it flows well to members, this is an interesting write up, not just because of the content or innuendos (which I'll admit holds entertaining value), but the keywords...

Originally Posted by Fras

Yes you are right.........I agree you reply.

@Fras are you just here to get your post count up? lol

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Jouvan Johnson

8 years ago

Originally Posted by WFMarcus

This is almost borderline the forum rules in the 'offensive' category lol

So to drive the education of this to make sure it flows well to members, this is an interesting write up, not just because of the content or innuendos (which I'll admit holds entertaining value), but the keywords.

Thinking about the kind of people you attract by using these keywords is not ideal but, think about it... the keywords here are 'pleasuring, school, girl, moan, masturbation, fitness, story, sweat' all of which would attract a certain kind of traffic, which is traffic nevertheless.

Aside from that, the message is extremely powerful and I do appreciate Jouvan for sharing. Treating your purchases as an actual investment rather than out of pure FOMO will always give you the appreciation of results.

Glad you enjoyed the message but I do hope those keywords were not what attracted you here?

That would be very disturbing, that train of thought didn't even come into my mind

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tagiscom

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jouvan Johnson

Well it got me thinking about how some people are what I call chronic marketing masturbators

What I mean by that is they regularly buy products just for the pleasure of having something new, They get all hyped up on the sales letter and get off on clicking that buy button

But then 30% of them never even open it.

What a waste of money...

Then out of the rest that actually open it 90% of them never use what they learn inside

They just get on the forums (a lot like this one) and bytch and moan about how "this" method doesn't work or "this" person is a scam-artist

Don't be one of those people...

If you invest in a product, treat it as that and make use of your investment.

Don't live off the self pleasuring cycle searching for the next marketing masturbation session.

Don't be addicted to the buying, get addicted to the results.

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You should go and do a video, (works for others).

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Jouvan Johnson

8 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

You should go and do a video, (works for others).

You are so right! I have been meaning to but I keep giving myself BS excuses about turning my content into video's.

I will do it this coming week. Then I will post it here for your feedback

Thanks for reading.

Jouvan

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BigFrank Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jouvan Johnson

I will do it this coming week. Then I will post it here for your feedback

Jouvan

Just don't forget that self-promotion violates the forum rules. lol

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tagiscom

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jouvan Johnson

You are so right! I have been meaning to but I keep giving myself BS excuses about turning my content into video's.

I will do it this coming week. Then I will post it here for your feedback

Thanks for reading.

Jouvan

Just don't call it F*ckabator!

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Mdshohidulislamrobin

Banned 8 years ago

I appreciate your title! Marketing Masturbater lol

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Jouvan Johnson

8 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Just don't forget that self-promotion violates the forum rules. lol

Frank

Hmm I will have to be smart about it in the video and make sure I am not breaking any rules..

If I said in the video that if you want to find out more about me you can check me out at [Web Address] but do not pitch a product or squeeze page would that still be breaking the rules?

Originally Posted by Mdshohidulislamrobin

I appreciate your title! Marketing Masturbater lol

How about the actual content?

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jouvan Johnson

Hmm I will have to be smart about it in the video and make sure I am not breaking any rules..

If I said in the video that if you want to find out more about me you can check me out at [Web Address] but do not pitch a product or squeeze page would that still be breaking the rules?

How about the actual content?

It's not the content of the video, but the posting of the video or a link to it. You could check with the mods and ask them the best way to handle that. Figuring out what is and what's not permissible can be frustrating.

It might help if they clearly outlined the acceptable parameters and created a sticky as well as including some pertinent information in the welcome email.

Frank

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jouvan Johnson

If I said in the video that if you want to find out more about me you can check me out at [Web Address] but do not pitch a product or squeeze page would that still be breaking the rules?

As I understand them, yes - but I can't speak for them. Write support and ask.

Frank

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Regional Warrior

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jouvan Johnson

Hmm I will have to be smart about it in the video and make sure I am not breaking any rules..

If I said in the video that if you want to find out more about me you can check me out at [Web Address] but do not pitch a product or squeeze page would that still be breaking the rules?

How about the actual content?

100% shit like this should be nuked

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Steve B

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jouvan Johnson

If I said in the video that if you want to find out more about me you can check me out at [Web Address] but do not pitch a product or squeeze page would that still be breaking the rules?

Yes, of course it would. That's what self promotion is.

If you want forum members to "check you out" you put your link in your sig file - that's what it's for.

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Kay King

8 years ago

the message is extremely powerful

The message that people enjoy buying new things even though they may not use them? That's nothing new. For many it's the "idea" of IM that's attractive...not the work. That won't change - and many selling to newbies count on that behavior to sell one product after another.

This entire thread reads like something from an old boys club.

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Marcus W K Wong 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

This entire thread reads like something from an old boys club.

Thanks for bringing this up. Will move this to off-topic since the provoked discussion in the thread doesn't add real value to IM.
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shaunybb

8 years ago

I see stupid click bait title's still dominate WF front page *sigh*

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Jouvan Johnson 8 years ago

From reading the comments it would look like the video is not a great idea for the warrior forum.

As a marketer creating a video without a call to action feels so counterintuitive lol.

Originally Posted by shaunybb

I see stupid click bait title's still dominate WF front page *sigh*

*sigh* a thread title should promote a click, its like an email subject line, which main purpose is to make someone click to then consume the content.

It would be clickbait if the resulting content had nothing to do with the title but as you can see my thread title and actual content go well together.

I still see the forum is filled with little whiners lol

Let's take a look at some of your thread titles and please explain why you think mine is "clickbait" and yours is not?

"This Is For Newbies...(Don't Get Alarmed)"
"Why can't you make money online? YES you...."
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- lgibbon Banned 8 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Jouvan Johnson
  
  *sigh* a thread title should promote a click, its like an email subject line,
  
  It's nothing like an email subject line.
  They can be deleted.
  Here we're stuck with this type of thing.
  
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  Originally Posted by lgibbon
  
  It's nothing like an email subject line.
  They can be deleted.
  Here we're stuck with this type of thing.
  
  I don't even understand what you are trying to say I just see more warrior forum whining lol
  
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Rory Singh

8 years ago

This started off as a 'funny' topic but in reality it's a very serious matter. Yes most people have issues with staying focused and lack the discipline needed to follow through with a 'determined' MINDSET.

But in reality there are deeper issues (mentally) that KEEPS most people stuck.

Will Power and Discipline don't just come on their own.

Only God really knows how this universe really works.

But here are some things that can and will hold people back:

1- Anger Issues

2- Hate

3- Blame

4- Jealousy

5- Judgement

Do you ever wander why some folks just can't muster up enough will power and determination to complete the smallest tasks?

Successful IM is a form of FREEDOM and sadly the 'average' human mind can not handle freedom.

Do you see what happens every weekend?

All Emergency Services like Police, Ambulance and even Firemen are more busy.

The emergency wards at the hospital goes nuts during the weekends and holidays.

For me personally...I suffered from severe Anger Issues and couldn't focus too long on anything until I 'acknowledged' I had an issue but more importantly...

My 'willingness' to do something about it.

I still have some anger issues but still working on them.

Conclusion:

The more I let my own BS go, the more freedom roles into my own life.

And it was ONLY until then that I was able to start focusing on 'one' project online successfully (and start getting results with it).

Just some thing to ponder today for everyone reading this.

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Kay King

8 years ago

the 'average' human mind can not handle freedom.

That's true . People say they want freedom but the lack of restrictions/structure when you are "free" is frightening for many.

The more I let my own BS go, the more freedom roles into my own life.

And you can't do it for someone else - only for yourself.

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ChrisBa

8 years ago

Lol I guess that's one way to call it.

I think this is more commonly referred to as shiny object syndrome.

Thanks for the good laugh

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Get Mega Rich

8 years ago

yes, i'm a marketing masturbater. I make a very low wage as a sales/business dev manager at my company so i'm constantly masturbating ideas in my head to grow my company, and a lot of the strategies I constantly think of is how can I improve my company's marketing message. So yes, I'm a marketing masturbater. <3

I'm in the process of negotiating a deal with the owner to make me a percentage of the company's profits since our company is small right now and i'm trying hard to grow it <3

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tagiscom

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Get Mega Rich

yes, i'm a marketing masturbater. I make a very low wage as a sales/business dev manager at my company so i'm constantly masturbating ideas in my head to grow my company, and a lot of the strategies I constantly think of is how can I improve my company's marketing message. So yes, I'm a marketing masturbater. <3

I'm in the process of negotiating a deal with the owner to make me a percentage of the company's profits since our company is small right now and i'm trying hard to grow it <3

That is the best way to "Get-ahead"!

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Get Mega Rich

yes, i'm a marketing masturbater. I make a very low wage as a sales/business dev manager at my company so i'm constantly masturbating ideas in my head as well as taking excessively long bathroom breaks.

Fixed that for you.

Frank

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Gary Chapple

8 years ago

Great thread and title, with a serious message here, people don't follow through,

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Jouvan Johnson 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Gary Chapple

Great thread and title, with a serious message here, people don't follow through,

Thanks mate. Glad you like it
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JohnMcCabe

8 years ago

I have to confess to being a "master baiter", but it has nothing to do with marketing and everything to do with a taste for fresh fish...

Some people like teen vampire romance novels, some like spy stories, some like IM books and courses. For them, it's just another form of entertainment, which puts it closer to the subject line than an ereader to a bored housewife reading 50 Shades for the 47th time.

I went to school with a guy that dreamed about being a farmer. Had subscriptions to "Successful Farming" and all the other farm mags as well as the state ag department mailing list. He could talk for hours about cattle breeding and crop rotations.

But he lived in a studio apartment downtown, and had no real intention of ever leaving the city.

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Jouvan Johnson

8 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe

I have to confess to being a "master baiter", but it has nothing to do with marketing and everything to do with a taste for fresh fish...

Some people like teen vampire romance novels, some like spy stories, some like IM books and courses. For them, it's just another form of entertainment, which puts it closer to the subject line than an ereader to a bored housewife reading 50 Shades for the 47th time.

I went to school with a guy that dreamed about being a farmer. Had subscriptions to "Successful Farming" and all the other farm mags as well as the state ag department mailing list. He could talk for hours about cattle breeding and crop rotations.

But he lived in a studio apartment downtown, and had no real intention of ever leaving the city.

That is a great message. I never thought of it that way. Yeah some people may just like IM products purely for the entertainment value. As long as they know that and not kidding themselves thinking the results are just going to fall into their lap

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Trey Morgan

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jouvan Johnson

Don't be addicted to the buying, get addicted to the results.

Jouvan Johnson
The IM Anarchist

I like that. I can definitely say making the transition above is one of the biggest turning points in my marketing career.

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Jouvan Johnson 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Trey Morgan

I like that. I can definitely say making the transition above is one of the biggest turning points in my marketing career.

Yeah me too my man. I think we all slip into constant learning mode at times too because I do enjoy finding out about new methods but always got to push myself to remember that the results come from the output not the consumption
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brookeharper08

8 years ago

I never thought of Compulsive Buying or Checkbox Syndrome this way. It's a creative way to approach it, though. Nice analogy.

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Jouvan Johnson 8 years ago

Originally Posted by brookeharper08

I never thought of Compulsive Buying or Checkbox Syndrome this way. It's a creative way to approach it, though. Nice analogy.

Thank you Brooke glad you got something out of it
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usmantemuri

8 years ago

lol what a title anyways i better focus on my marketing instead doing this

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Jouvan Johnson

8 years ago

Originally Posted by usmantemuri

lol what a title anyways i better focus on my marketing instead doing this

Lol glad you enjoyed.. And no more marketing masturbation lol

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Ken Leatherman

8 years ago

Jouvan,

Great signature! I clicked on it and watched the video, but decided to ignore the "silver object syndrome".

Ken

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Jouvan Johnson

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken Leatherman

Jouvan,

Great signature! I clicked on it and watched the video, but decided to ignore the "silver object syndrome".

Ken

Thank you Ken. I'm happy you avoided the shiny object syndrome because if you were to purchase and not use (masturbate over) one of my products it wouldn't do either of us any favours lol

Jouvan

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tagiscom

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jouvan Johnson

Thank you Ken. I'm happy you avoided the shiny object syndrome because if you were to purchase and not use (masturbate over) one of my products it wouldn't do either of us any favours lol

Jouvan

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Ken Leatherman 8 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

You will go blind!

Wait I can't read what you typed

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Kurt

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jouvan Johnson

Thank you Ken. I'm happy you avoided the shiny object syndrome because if you were to purchase and not use (masturbate over) one of my products it wouldn't do either of us any favours lol

Jouvan

Sadly, in the training for the sales staff at The Sweeper Store this is emphasized as the key selling point.

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Paulmelaus

8 years ago

I feel I've fallen into "Marketing Masturwaiting.....unlike it's popular namesake, this new, unwanted love child of "the Internet" and "time" is a monumental curse of such gargantuan proportions, it affects newbie and guru alike. Solving the problem will make some shopify storekeeper rich....that is, of course, if he's game to admit he's found the buffer solution. I'll go out on a limb.....I bet he'll keep it to himself....and us waiting.

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tagiscom

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Paulmelaus

I feel I've fallen into "Marketing Masturwaiting.....unlike it's popular namesake, this new, unwanted love child of "the Internet" and "time" is a monumental curse of such gargantuan proportions, it affects newbie and guru alike. Solving the problem will make some shopify storekeeper rich....that is, of course, if he's game to admit he's found the buffer solution. I'll go out on a limb.....I bet he'll keep it to himself....and us waiting.

Nonsense it only took me 9 years.

But l agree that the internet is time hungry, which probably explains that it can take a while.

Although time can be dramatically reduced on creating some items, so it goes both ways, and the no ceiling on wealth always helps.

PS Melbourne eh, hope that you enjoyed Moomba, and if you have a BMW parked outside your house, that you have a ball and chain around it, lol.

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ZachMiller

8 years ago

Amen, too many users find themselves in a vicious buyer-roofie circle..

Track your results, split test and get addicted to seeing those numbers..

I always keep my #1 number in my eyes.. anytime I make a new funnel - it's $1 in = $1 out.. that's success..

Then you can build a massive buyers list to keep selling your next product/service to..

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Paulmelaus 8 years ago

And that's why it's well worth the effort of setting up a funnel...and why Masturwaiting pays off. The other bloody thing, something I'll never speak ill of, certainly does offer the financial returns of this new marketing concept
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8 years ago

Thanks for saying "shiny object syndrome" in a real way.

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Kurt

8 years ago

>RE: Are you a marketing masturbater?

Beats me.

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tagiscom

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

>RE: Are you a marketing masturbater?

Beats me.

Sounds like a tug of war?

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Jouvan Johnson

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Paulk59

"Don't be addicted to the buying, get addicted to the results"
This is a statement to remember, thank you.

Glad that one stuck out to you bro... It's def one to remember

Originally Posted by kocher79

I used to buy one info product after another, but got so overloaded with information didn't even know where to start. Finally stuck with one thing & am actually learning something now.

Yeah you will only really learn from taking consistent action on the right things

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Sounds like a tug of war?

Oh gosh the bad jokes are coming out

lol

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tagiscom 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jouvan Johnson

Oh gosh the bad jokes are coming out lol

Sounds like the Rubber Room for me, lol.
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Paulk59

8 years ago

"Don't be addicted to the buying, get addicted to the results"
This is a statement to remember, thank you.

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kocher79

8 years ago

I used to buy one info product after another, but got so overloaded with information didn't even know where to start. Finally stuck with one thing & am actually learning something now.

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