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Does using BIG words make you sound smart?

by Seleyna

Posted: 15 years ago 58 replies

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in the same way when a misused big word has the opposite effect of making you sound smart!

pedantic!

Thomas 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Seleyna

Re: Does using BIG words make you sound smart?!

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Kurt 15 years ago

I is a smart.

Nope, big words didn't make me sound smart.
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  Originally Posted by Kurt
  
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- hireava 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kurt
  
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  Nope, big words didn't make me sound smart.
  
  you can use big words if the user has a eye promblem. lol
  
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- seasoned 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kurt
  
  I is a smart.
  
  Nope, big words didn't make me sound smart.
  
  It is also an incomplete sentence! Who is "I"? They are a smart what?
  
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  Kay King 15 years ago
  
  They are a smart what?
  
  I think that is inferred...
  
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  seasoned 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kay King
  
  I think that is inferred...
  
  Woe is I.
  
  Well, a makes it a noun, and smart would be an adjective, so....
  
  You DO almost want to say a.. ! As for I, usually it is a pronoun referring to the speaker, but "is" indicates it is a proper noun. Maybe we could give it the meaning of kurt, since he spoke and that would usually be what "I" means. And what does THAT say?
  
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whateverpedia 15 years ago

For the most part it makes you sound like a smartarse, but not necessarily smart.
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deep12 15 years ago

Using big words dosen't count a lot. What matters is doing big things.
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sparckyz 15 years ago

I use big words all the time to baffle and bewilder lol
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DianeBrandt 15 years ago

Yes of course, but I never use them.
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Michael Oksa 15 years ago

I have, a few times, had people ask me to stop using "big words" in casual conversations. The funny thing is that I didn't think they were that big. My goal is to communicate my thoughts as clearly as possible. English is notorious for having subtle shades of meaning between words, that's why we have thesauruses (thesauri?).

So, I simply try to use the word that conveys* the right meaning, whether it's "big" or not isn't important. That being said, what really counts is being understood. If "big" words keep the other person from understanding, then it's best to use simpler terms at the risk of sacrificing a bit of clarity.

On the other hand, I would rather start by using the best choice of words, and assume the other person has a fair vocabulary. I don't use words that are so big that most people won't know them.

Is it better to assume the other person has equal or better than yourself, and speak the way you wish? Or, is it better to assume they are of lesser intelligence and intentionally dumb it down? I know what my vote is.

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*This is a good example. I could have used the word "express", but I felt that only requires one person. It's possible to express your feeling to a wall. But when you convey something, it requires another person...someone to receive and understand the conveyance.
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15 years ago

Words are symbols for ideas. Once you know a word, you will use it automatically when it best supports the idea you mean to represent, just as we use any word in our vocabulary.

Those who have limited vocabularies often view those who don't as pedantic, condescending snobs and that is not the usual case. Some people may use a word to sound more intelligent here and again, but once that word is in their vocabulary awhile, they will use it automatically to describe an idea so even when its use is originally for esteem or status, eventually it's just another idea label. The only thing these people are guilty of is understanding that esteem is attached to education and wanting to fit in with the "thinkers" in society. We ALL want to fit into to some specific area of society and will do things that will get us "in the door" with those groups.

I would rather see people learning words to gain status than not use them at all. Complex thought processes are very greatly aided as vocabularies increase, so have at it - use the 14 syllable word and show off all you want, in the long run it's good for you - even if you mess up on one or two of em here or there. Always keep learning.

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Words are symbols for ideas. Once you know a word, you will use it automatically when it best supports the idea you mean to represent, just as we use any word in our vocabulary.

Those who have limited vocabularies often view those who don't as pedantic, condescending snobs and that is not the usual case. Some people may use a word to sound more intelligent here and again, but once that word is in their vocabulary awhile, they will use it automatically to describe an idea so even when its use is originally for esteem or status, eventually it's just another idea label. The only thing these people are guilty of is understanding that esteem is attached to education and wanting to fit in with the "thinkers" in society. We ALL want to fit into to some specific area of society and will do things that will get us "in the door" with those groups.

I would rather see people learning words to gain status than not use them at all. Complex thought processes are very greatly aided as vocabularies increase, so have at it - use the 14 syllable word and show off all you want, in the long run it's good for you - even if you mess up on one or two of em here or there. Always keep learning.

Well said.

as I recall, the longest REAL word is supposed to be "antidisestablishmentarianism"

I think that falls a bit short of the 14. 8-/

Of course there IS that word that some call the longest, but I don't think it qualifies! "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious"!

WOW, I guess that IS about 14! 8-)

It IS defined in dictionary.com!

–adjective
(used as a nonsense word by children to express approval or to represent the longest word in English.)

Talk about PRETENTIOUS!

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BTW I didn't say that to start a political OR a religious discussion. It's not MY fault that the longest real word happens to be such a word. At least the word establishment isn't defined because, if it were, it would be practically a sentence onto itself. It is a word that spells out EXACTLY what it means, outside of defining establishment. I guess that is a good recipe for the longest word. The Germans do that with great ease, and are known for having long words.

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Well said.

as I recall, the longest REAL word is supposed to be "antidisestablishmentarianism"

I think that falls a bit short of the 14. 8-/

Of course there IS that word that some call the longest, but I don't think it qualifies! "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious"!

WOW, I guess that IS about 14! 8-)

It IS defined in dictionary.com!

–adjective
(used as a nonsense word by children to express approval or to represent the longest word in English.)

Talk about PRETENTIOUS!

Steve

BTW I didn't say that to start a political OR a religious discussion. It's not MY fault that the longest real word happens to be such a word. At least the word establishment isn't defined because, if it were, it would be practically a sentence onto itself. It is a word that spells out EXACTLY what it means, outside of defining establishment. I guess that is a good recipe for the longest word. The Germans do that with great ease, and are known for having long words.

I love that word (antidisestablishmentarianism). When I first learned it I was around 13 or 14 and when my dad would get in my face about my "attitudes" I would call him an antidisestablimentarianist. I'm thinking the word still gives him a headache when he hears it - if anyone actually ever uses it other than kids who want to get flippy with their parents.

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copius 15 years ago

Pedantic?

I feel that your copious assertion is far too sagacious for my diminuitive comprehension.
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sparckyz 15 years ago

I liked to use big words in my dissertations. That in conjunction with adding lots of empty pages so when it's weighed, and the length of the words are measured it passes
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15 years ago

George Orwell perhaps the greatest writer in the English language said:

Never use a long word where a short one will do.

Long words don’t make you sound intelligent unless used skillfully. In the wrong situation they’ll have the opposite effect, making you sound pretentious and arrogant. They’re also less likely to be understood and more awkward to read.

When Hemingway was criticized by Faulkner for his limited word choice he replied:

Poor Faulkner. Does he really think big emotions come from big words? He thinks I don’t know the ten-dollar words. I know them all right. But there are older and simpler and better words, and those are the ones I use.]

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DaveHughes 15 years ago

Originally Posted by madison_avenue

George Orwell perhaps the greatest writer in the English language said:

Sorry, I have to do it. Really? You're putting Orwell (a great writer, no doubt, but I'll put Alfred Bester up against him any day of the week) over Shakespeare? Shakespeare, by the way, not only used larger words, but he tended to make up his own words and phrases when he couldn't find an existing one that fit his purpose.

Pretentious twit. :rolleyes:

As to the topic at hand, when I was in junior high school, I created what I call my "filter". I automatically filter out larger words in my conversation...I learned that when I realized that no one but the teachers knew was I was saying.

And trust me, it didn't have a darn thing to do with trying to be pretentious. I taught myself to read when I was three, and have been reading non-stop since then. Yes, I have a huge vocabulary, but I realized that it did no good if no one would listen.

(Side note: When I get really tired, my "filter" drops. I know this because my wife will say "Go to bed; your filter is down...I didn't understand a thing you just said." :rolleyes

Perfect example in this thread...why assume that, just because someone is using words larger than those you're comfortable with, that they're trying to be pretentious? I'm not saying that there aren't people that do exactly that (because there are), but it's usually a case of tarring everyone with the same brush when many people hear someone use a word they don't know.

What if the name of this thread was "Does using small words make you sound stupid?"

I'd still argue against it.

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BryanC 15 years ago

I'm still in the cube job and I had always used big trigger words on a daily basis at work to make myself sound more professional.

Then I found this article the other day and felt like a jackass once I realized I use half of those words in my regular vocabulary -
http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/fast-company-staff/fast-company-blog/how-stay-awake-boring-meetings
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BryanC,

I figure about 5 of those are really ok. Some are questionable, one is a bit pretentious, and all the rest are usually BS! MAYBE I can have a "winner", as I generally use maybe 5 of them. MAYBE! I probably hear most in 3 meetings or less.

HECK, I get like a business word/phrase of the day and MANY are incomplete or just WRONG! I'm waiting for them to say something like PHP--Post Hypnotic Process, or some such. YEAH, it is THAT bad! And some of the "best practice" documents I have seen started with nothing, or garbage, and haven't been updated in years, yet they may be happy with them. The idea is to start with some generally accepted outline, tailor it to your needs, have a "lessons learned" meeting after each major project, and UPDATE IT! Eventually it ends up making many mistakes IMPOSSIBLE to make.

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15 years ago

My whole life, I have spoken in simple, plain English.

It works for me.

Besides, I don't know any big words.

And as far as I'm concerned, it can stay that way.

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15 years ago

On the other hand, if you find you are often classifying others as pedantic due to use of large words in text or conversation...perhaps you aren't as smart as you thought?

It's not the words you use - but the way you use them - that is important.

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15 years ago

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On the other hand, if you find you are often classifying others as pedantic due to use of large words in text or conversation...perhaps you aren't as smart as you thought?

It's not the words you use - but the way you use them - that is important.

EXACTLY! If something is OVERLY wordy and the large words don't express the thoughts better, THEN it is pedantic and pretentious. Otherwise, it is conceited to believe that they are doing it MERELY to impress.

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My whole life, I have spoken in simple, plain English.

It works for me.

Besides, I don't know any big words.

And as far as I'm concerned, it can stay that way.

You still know terminology that others don't. I'm unfamiliar with technical ends of music -- and you can lose me real fast when you start to use music terminology.

Should those of us not in the industry expect you to walk on eggshells and worry about breaking down every term that comes out of your mouth? Enough of that and talking can get to be a real pain in the butt real fast. Conversation isn't supposed to be work.

I remember when writing standards for journalism went from 10th grade to 8th grade English. I remember one of my colleagues remarks about that memo -- he said "(bleep bleep) Are they gonna make us write with those big crayons, too?"

How much do we have to worry about breaking our ideas down to someone else's levels before maybe it becomes the obligation of the person who can't understand what many consider normal speech to learn their own language?

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Speaking of cell phones...I went to the dreaded walmart today and while in the housecleaning aisle, I overheard a conversation by cell phone that blew my mind.

Before cell phones, how on earth did people decide what bathroom tissue to buy? Seriously, that's what she was discussing and it cracked me up.

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Speaking of cell phones...I went to the dreaded walmart today and while in the housecleaning aisle, I overheard a conversation by cell phone that blew my mind.

Before cell phones, how on earth did people decide what bathroom tissue to buy? Seriously, that's what she was discussing and it cracked me up.

kay

I don't think we had more than 2 brands BEFORE cellphones...

Those little buggers (cellphones) opened up a whole new world.

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Intrepreneur 15 years ago

Well anyone can use big words. Though not everyone will get them. It's all about the audience not the words. This video is good.

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sarahberra 15 years ago

No I don't think using big words makes you sound smarter. Choosing intelligent words that convey a clear message is best.
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Intrepreneur,

As far as saying that anyone can use big words, have you ever watched Archie on "All in the family"? He sometimes tried to use what some consider big words and it was quite comical! As for that video? I am ambivalent about it. All at once I dislike some of the expressions and wholeheartedly agree with the rest.

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Seriously - some are missing something here.

Not everyone speaks in a simplistic way using the same words consistently. There are people who explore the language and use it and experiment with it. There is an art to the language of those who can speak comfortably with others at various levels of society, education and background.

I have no problem talking with people who use a full range of the language - big words included. However, any discussion with someone who says "ya know" or "like" every few words makes me want to throttle them.

I fear the constant yammering on cell phones and short-phrasing by texting may result in less use of language. Could it be in the future people will know only the same 500 words and just keep repeating them to each other? How boring that would be.:p

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I have no problem talking with people who use a full range of the language - big words included. However, any discussion with someone who says "ya know" or "like" every few words makes me want to throttle them.

I APOLOGIZE for using "ya know" and "like". PLEASE have pity on me. With my age, and the fact that I was born in CA. Well....you know!

I really AM sincerely sorry.

BTW I remember when RAM was considered a big word, and people thought it was stupid to say RAM, ROM, PROM, EPROM, etc... They wondered why people didn't just say MEMORY. But it was industry terminology, and every acronym has a DISTINCT meaning.

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Kay King 15 years ago

From California? Ok, that explains it. Like, I get it. You know what I'm talkin' about?
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myeanne 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Seleyna

in the same way when a misused big word has the opposite effect of making you sound smart!

pedantic!

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thunderbird 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Seleyna

in the same way when a misused big word has the opposite effect of making you sound smart!

pedantic!

If you were aiming to spark off reactions, do did a great job. I honestly am not even sure I understood what you were saying. The word "pedantic" is nice illustration of what I think you meant, since it comes out of nowhere and doesn't really seem to connect with the previous sentence. Hope I'm not being too pedantic in pointing out that discrepancy)

(If any of the words I used were too big, I profusely apologize).
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15 years ago

They can at times but I find when someone uses too may it seems like they are trying to impress someone. It can entirely depend on who is saying them too, they need to be able to back them up. So many times I have witnessed someone purposely using big words and they would often misuse them.

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They can at times but I find when someone uses too may it seems like they are trying to impress someone. It can entirely depend on who is saying them too, they need to be able to back them up. So many times I have witnessed someone purposely using big words and they would often misuse them.

Yeah, basically that is when I HATE big words! If they are ONLY to impress, and misused, it is just WRONG. OH, and Ride_the_lightning.... Big words, properly used, CAN contribute to brevity!

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tamarindcandy 15 years ago

"Big words" are often very precise. Misusing them makes you sound stupid, but there are perfectly valid reasons to deploy them.
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Don't get me going about cell phones!!
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alesia 15 years ago

for me using big word like a stupid person...like me LOL
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That reminds me of that line in Avator "be here at 0800...and use big words"
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If it doesn't make you sound smart, at least it makes you sound sesquipedalian.
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jonnieke 14 years ago

once i was told communicating is important but communicating effectively is key.if you are using very big words for an audience that does not know what u are saying then it leaves you quite on the losing side.its better to use simple words and straight to the point instead of having to explain yourself now and then then you save your self alot of time.
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Sumit Menon 14 years ago

What? It doesn't? So all this time I spent reading the dictionary was a waste?

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EricDelano 14 years ago

No I think that if you can explain something hard in simple terms so the dumbest guy gets it, then thats what makes you smart!
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