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End of The World Countdown...

by John Durham
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I have a feeling that in 5 days alot of Mayan calender freaks are going to be jumping off bridges saying "I cant understand the meaning of life...".

Can you believe how invested some are into the idea that the world is about to end?

Seriously, there are people who have built entire careers teaching that as soon as 2012 turns , the world is going to end...

Of course the closer it gets the more they water down the teaching and say "Its just gonna be an energetic shift".

Cop outs.

Stand by your conviction man!

At very least, alot of spiritual gurus are about to go broke and lose their followings.

Thats MY prediction.
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    Like I posted somewhere else today...I'm more worried about who snuck in here and moved all my furniture around...and then put it back in the very same spot..






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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      There may have been an error in the Gregorian calendar by as much as 8 years. So we may have at least until 2020 to milk this thing -er, before the end comes.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        There may have been an error in the Gregorian calendar by as much as 8 years. So we may have at least until 2020 to milk this thing -er, before the end comes.

        I think you said it right the first time buddy!
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        • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
          I am really not paying any attention to the world ending in December 2012. For all I know, I could have an auto accident tomorrow and the Mayans would be wrong on my account.

          Actually, they probably just ran out of space to count any higher when they were putting their calendar together (I saw that suggested somewhere.) Alternatively, they had a wicked sense of humor knowing they'd be the cause of tremendous panic and no one could do anything to them since they were long gone.
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          • Profile picture of the author teleam
            I don't know how this end of the world business got started. The Mayens didn't predict the end would be on Dec. 21, 2012. What they really said was the procession of the equinox would end it's cycle. Each cycle is roughly 25,000 years give or take.

            That is when the Zodiac returns to the beginning. You have heard of the Age of Aquarius well each age as they call it lasts Approximately two thousand years and we have just gone through the age of Pisces. This is what is known as the great year..
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        There may have been an error in the Gregorian calendar by as much as 8 years. So we may have at least until 2020 to milk this thing -er, before the end comes.
        That's what they CLAIM! With all the references and hemming and hawing, you KNOW that there is like 100 years plus before that famous period, so the 8 years might be over 100! The first reference appears to be like 800 or so AD. EARLY references, like 33AD are clearly defining different things, etc... The fact that there was apparently more than one stage to the leap year calculations indicates over 100 years. So we KNOW it was over 33 years. It was definitely before 1500. Does anyone know EXACTLY when?

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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          ... Does anyone know EXACTLY when?
          There is just too much at stake right now to answer the question truthfully. :p
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          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          Does anyone know EXACTLY when?
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  • Profile picture of the author ace21
    This feels like the year 2000 repeating again lol I agree with AprilCT, you could die at any time. If the world does end next year, at least it will end before Christmas. That way I won't have to worry about buying presents and wrapping them
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Interview with stone carver who carved the Mayan calendar into stone.
      Interviewer: "Why does the calendar stop at 2012."
      Stone carver: "Ran out of stone."
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    No man knows when the end time comes.
    I think the one responsible for the above sentence probably knows more than the mayans
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    I was wondering when Nibiru was going to show up again..its been 3610 years already. Oh well maybe later this year perhaps? Watch and see DoomsdayTube
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas
    The Mayan thingy says the end will be 21 December 2012.

    However, the calendar on my wall ends on 31 December 2011.

    I wonder if Vistaprint knows something even the Mayans didn't :confused:
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    I've already got my booking in Vegas, if I'm going out, I'm leaving this world in the city of sin, reliving the hangover movie minus taking the tiger, mainly cause I dont want to hear Tyson sing.
    Just in case I'm hoping theres a marketing seminar so if the world doesn't end I can write the trip off.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    telearn - you have your cultures mixed up. The zodiac (as it relates to the Age of Aquarius) is not Mayan, although they did study astronomy and recognize some constellations.

    If you want to read the facts on Mayans - the math, the calendar, religion, etc -- the following link is an excellent source of information describing the basics of Mayan thought and knowledge. You can get the drift from this how someone was able to *******ize the info to create the idea of "the end". Most of what has gone on in the prophecy is marketing - someone formed a religion on that marketing and others have made a killing on it as well. Here are the facts. It's written by a non-native speaker so just ignore the few grammatical inconsistencies.

    http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/...n_calendar.pdf
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      telearn - you have your cultures mixed up. The zodiac (as it relates to the Age of Aquarius) is not Mayan, although they did study astronomy and recognize some constellations.

      If you want to read the facts on Mayans - the math, the calendar, religion, etc -- the following link is an excellent source of information describing the basics of Mayan thought and knowledge. You can get the drift from this how someone was able to *******ize the info to create the idea of "the end". Most of what has gone on in the prophecy is marketing - someone formed a religion on that marketing and others have made a killing on it as well. Here are the facts. It's written by a non-native speaker so just ignore the few grammatical inconsistencies.

      http://www.math.nus.edu.sg/aslaksen/...n_calendar.pdf
      I thnk telearns point is that the mayan calendar is based on planetary cycles, just like the astronomical ages. telearn brought up the age of aquarius to build a reference, and mentioned we were done with that and already through pisces.

      Technically, mentioning it is the end of a cycle is saying the SAME thing since a cycle, by definition, would have to repeat. The talk of astronomy symbols/ages just broke it down to smaller chunks.

      Then again, I often do the same sort of thing and people zone out THERE also.

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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    During my lifetime the world has ended many times, before miracously restarting.

    These restarts, by bizarre coincidence, happen at the exact moment my hangover wears off.

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that the world will end again as we pass into the New Year, but will restart sometime on New Year's Day, once again coinciding with another hangover wearing off.

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    • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

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      If you want to read the facts on Mayans - the math, the calendar, religion, etc -- the following link is an excellent source of information describing the basics of Mayan thought and knowledge. You can get the drift from this how someone was able to *******ize the info to create the idea of "the end". Most of what has gone on in the prophecy is marketing - someone formed a religion on that marketing and others have made a killing on it as well. Here are the facts. It's written by a non-native speaker so just ignore the few grammatical inconsistencies.
      Thanks Sal...I downloaded and will read it later.

      Just by the by...last night I saw a documentary on History or Discov. or something...one of the 3am, Our Friend the Beaver channels.

      Anyway they had a show on about the Maya and how the calender actually goes on for eons. because of the ever growing cycles they did them in. Something was important about the 21st of December, but it wasn't the end of the world.

      These were actual professors...from there, and other Universities, it was actually lucid..I'll read this as soon as tonight see what it says...I notice it's written in 2003, before the 'marketing' hysteria really started.





      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      During my lifetime the world has ended many times, before miracously restarting.

      These restarts, by bizarre coincidence, happen at the exact moment my hangover wears off.

      I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that the world will end again as we pass into the New Year, but will restart sometime on New Year's Day, once again coinciding with another hangover wearing off.

      (Cue X-Files theme).
      I have a new theory on that, whatever. Although I do like the hangover theory...happens on the right side of the world too...:p

      See, if we take all the end of the world prophecies, from 1900 till present day, and count them. Then we divide by four...add three, then, count the stars and divide by 122111, we will actually have the correct date.
      'Course I may be missing a step, but I'm willing to bet someone's selling the missing step for 27.97...

      Keep ya posted...
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      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      During my lifetime the world has ended many times, before miracously restarting.

      These restarts, by bizarre coincidence, happen at the exact moment my hangover wears off.

      I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that the world will end again as we pass into the New Year, but will restart sometime on New Year's Day, once again coinciding with another hangover wearing off.

      (Cue X-Files theme).
      Are you The Count of Saint Germain?
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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

        Are you The Count of Saint Germain?
        No, the Baron Of Bourbon.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    December 21st is winter solstice - it's also a solstice in which the galaxy aligns in a special way. Our arm of the galaxy will be aligned with the center of the milky way so the solar system will be directly parallel with it. That's one of the reasons that the doomsday predictions have gone nuts. We will be in the path of cosmic wind that we usually aren't aligned with. That might effect solar energy, or electro-magnetism on earth. You could possibly theorize that if there's a lot of particles in cosmic wind that a cloud of them could ignite if they blow past the sun like sawdust can ignite in open flame. Seeing how the earth and life on earth survived the last galactic alignment, I'm not seeing anything too wild happening. Maybe some electrical problems here and there, but if history is any indication of how the planet survives such an alignment - it does so without much event.
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  • Profile picture of the author LeeLee
    How does this work in terms of world clocks? It becomes midnight, December 21, 2012 somewhere in the world. Greenwich mean time?

    My point is it will be 12/21/12 somewhere and still be 12/20/12 here.

    Also Greenwich mean time is an arbitrary point where it was agreed to set the prime meridian.

    I suppose since this is a Mayan prophecy, 12/21/12 would begin at midnight, west coast USA.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by Lucania View Post

      The world will end when truth fails..
      How does truth fail? Is not truth, truth? If truth fails, was it ever truth?

      Originally Posted by LeeLee View Post

      How does this work in terms of world clocks? It becomes midnight, December 21, 2012 somewhere in the world. Greenwich mean time?

      My point is it will be 12/21/12 somewhere and still be 12/20/12 here.

      Also Greenwich mean time is an arbitrary point where it was agreed to set the prime meridian.

      I suppose since this is a Mayan prophecy, 12/21/12 would begin at midnight, west coast USA.
      Rolling doom.

      Doomsday will start where and when the first clock strikes midnight. As time advances around the globe, so too will doom.

      That's why I'm keeping my 2011 calendar on the wall forever. As an extra precaution I also removed all the 12's off my clocks.
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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        As time advances around the globe, so too will doom.
        Best we all move to Hawaii then. That'll give us a few extra hours to market our "End Of The World" guidebooks.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    LeeLee - read the link I put in here. Scientists can't even agree on the concise date - 21st or 23rd. Their sense of time passage was different from ours, as were their mathematics. But to answer your direct question, it would appear that anything that happens via their calendar coordinates with their timeline. That only makes sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      LeeLee - read the link I put in here. Scientists can't even agree on the concise date - 21st or 23rd. Their sense of time passage was different from ours, as were their mathematics. But to answer your direct question, it would appear that anything that happens via their calendar coordinates with their timeline. That only makes sense.
      Also, Whatever happens has to effect different parts of the world differently based on angle, the orbit of the earth, the revolution of the earth, etc... Who can really say WHAT would happen. It would probably be one of the largest solar events in all of history, outside of comets and the like. So waves may be bigger, earthquakes may be more likely, maybe it would even increase solar flares and THEY could do a lot. But that isn't to say that any direct event may kill anyone.

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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        LOL! Real astronomy does not support any match between the Mayan calendar Baktun-13 end date and any "galactic alignment". The winter-solstice sun won’t even pass close to the galactic equator for another 200 years. But, it's fun (and profitable) to speculate. FYI, Amazon has tens of thousands of books about this for your reading (and marketing) pleasure.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          LOL! Real astronomy does not support any match between the Mayan calendar Baktun-13 end date and any "galactic alignment". The winter-solstice sun won't even pass close to the galactic equator for another 200 years. But, it's fun (and profitable) to speculate. FYI, Amazon has tens of thousands of books about this for your reading (and marketing) pleasure.
          I forget which bodies are supposed to be in alignment, but there are a LOT.

          Still, we ARE getting an increase in the weather, etc... that may be due to that. There HAVE been cases of similar things playing havok with communications for a while. So it is ALL possible. I think the only question is HOW FAR. It could be SO little, that people won't even realize it. If not for economic ties, communication, and flights, the average american would NEVER have heard of that tsunami in japan, or haiti. HELL, even the BP disaster.

          BTW BP has an AD campaign going on with various states where they are trying to make it sound like things are BETTER because of them!

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          • Profile picture of the author guy11
            Its just a rumour nothing is going to happen ...
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          • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
            Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

            I forget which bodies are supposed to be in alignment, but there are a LOT.

            Still, we ARE getting an increase in the weather, etc... that may be due to that. There HAVE been cases of similar things playing havok with communications for a while. So it is ALL possible. I think the only question is HOW FAR. It could be SO little, that people won't even realize it. If not for economic ties, communication, and flights, the average american would NEVER have heard of that tsunami in japan, or haiti. HELL, even the BP disaster.

            BTW BP has an AD campaign going on with various states where they are trying to make it sound like things are BETTER because of them!

            Steve
            The weather is changing, because we are moving tree's to the desert, that have never been there. Probably more transplanted trees in Southern Cali than there ever have been here.


            Tearing down rain forests, out of natural spots, we are bringing water to places it has never been...and on and etc..

            Why wouldn't the weather change?

            These are rough guesses on the percentage... (K wombats?...:p)
            I read one time that 75% of the technology we now use has come within the last 100 or so years...
            if we can cause this planet to suddenly explode and what not, in 100 years (roughly)...after all this planet has survived in the last million or so...then this planet is too wimpy to be around anyway..:rolleyes:

            Some people don't seem to believe that there are checks and balances in the universe..I do.

            A lot of what people seem to worry about, is something you or I can do absolutely nothing about.

            The only way to change the greed and waste and all the other crap is to tone it down in yourself first.
            Don't buy their crap...throw out your tv, your computer, your car, don't use banks.. etc... (that is an extreme example, granted)

            guess what?....it ain't gonna happen...not anytime soon.
            The young will always have to learn.

            Worry about what you can control...which is 'you'..each one of us.

            But almost everyone is, "it's not me".....
            yea it is.

            Maybe it's because I'm getting older and been thru a 'world' of reality...but these days I am happy just to have a bowl of Chex in front of me and a roof..

            Anyway, back to real reality...you know the one with little green men and conspiracies and... ahhh forget it ..carry on


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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

            I forget which bodies are supposed to be in alignment, but there are a LOT. ....
            There really are no planetary alignments or any astronomical anomalies set for Dec. 21, 2012. :rolleyes:
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    Well, I (for one) am taking no chances ... selling all my worldly belongings and moving into a cave on the highest mountain here in CO.
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    All I can say is that Only GOD knows when is the end of the world..
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    Only HIM will know the time of the world ends.........
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    I'm more concerned about China's fate in 2012 because it's a year of the dragon. And historically, the years of the dragon have not been auspicious for the Chinese.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrislangley
    The Mayan prediction is an interesting one, then again end of the world sayings have been around for quite sometime
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    I just watched Melancholia and the end of the world is going to look freaking awesome!
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  • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
    In fact, according to archaeologists, it wasn't the Mayans who linked the end of the 13th b'ak'tun with the end of the world. According to Mexico's National Institute of Anthropology and History, when Judeo-Christians began to decipher Mayan writings, their preconceived notions of apocalypse and the end of the world led them to link Mayan calendar cycles with doomsday.
    "A lot of the end-of-the-world mythologies are the result of Christian eschatology introduced by Franciscan missionaries," John Hoopes, a scholar of Maya history at the University of Kansas, told Livescience, referring to missionaries just entering the New World and coming into contact with native people.
    Maya scholars disagree on exactly how the Maya people would have interpreted the end of their calendar cycle, Hoopes said, though many say they would have seen it as a new beginning.

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    see...it was just The Spanish Imposition...lol

    A lot of wisdom in the ancients...how the 'moderns' interpret it...another matter...
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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by Roaddog View Post

      it was just The Spanish Imposition...lol
      I didn't expect the Spanish Imposition.
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      • Profile picture of the author Roaddog
        Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

        I didn't expect the Spanish Imposition.

        Nobody does....
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

        I didn't expect the Spanish Imposition.
        Neither did the Mayans.
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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by Mark Andrews View Post

            Where's Harold Camping when you need him?
            Harold Camping was jointly awarded the 2011 Ig Nobel prize in Mathematics (for helping to teach the world to be more careful when making end-time mathematical assumptions and calculations.)

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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by myob View Post

          Neither did the Mayans.
          The Spanish imposition has been happening for a LONG time! Who WOULDN'T expect it?

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          • Profile picture of the author myob
            Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

            The Spanish imposition has been happening for a LONG time! Who WOULDN'T expect it?

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            Mayans had absolutely no idea what they were in for when they first greeted the conquistador Francisco de Montejo in 1527. If it hadn't been for internal warfare, centuries of decline, and small pox, it would have taken the Spaniards far longer than the 170 years to impose their rule over the Maya.
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  • Profile picture of the author C2
    Nobody knows..just as nobody knows when he's gonna die. What matters is how you live your life every single day.
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    • Profile picture of the author Somali
      Originally Posted by C2 View Post

      Nobody knows..just as nobody knows when he's gonna die. What matters is how you live your life every single day.
      I do agree on what you said. Nobody knows when is the end of the world and also nobody knows till when we are going to stay on earth.
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      Originally Posted by C2 View Post

      Nobody knows..just as nobody knows when he's gonna die. What matters is how you live your life every single day.
      I do agree on what you said. Nobody knows when is the end of the world and also nobody knows till when we are going to stay on earth. Only God knows..
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  • Profile picture of the author pllkatie
    Agreed. The world ending in 2012? It's a joke.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by pllkatie View Post

      Agreed. The world ending in 2012? It's a joke.
      Uh oh ... people are starting to catch on.
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    I mean, just because the Mayans didn't continue doesn't necessarily mean a thing. Maybe they got tired. Maybe someone thought it would be funny. Who knows?
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