Manny Pacquiao Beaten By Tim Bradly!

Posted: 13 years ago 29 replies

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All time great Manny gets upset by upstart Tim Bradly last night in Vegas.

I didn't see the fight but...

I hear Manny hit Tim at least 100 times more than Tim hit Manny - according to Punchstats, but that doesn't matter when you're using a round by round scoring system.

Was Manny robbed??

I remember the Brits painting Vegas red for almost a week (drunkenly falling out of elevators etc.) but dejectedly leaving town claiming them and their fighter, (I think it was Lennex Lewis)...

... was robbed.

What on Earth really happened??

Was Manny robbed??

All The Best!!

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13 years ago

Manny had more landing punches than bradley..
I really hate the results on that fight..
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13 years ago

According to ESPN...

Timothy Bradley beats Manny Pacquiao in controversial split decision - ESPN
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13 years ago

I think a rematch was built into the contract.

"I'm going to make a lot of money on the rematch, but this was outrageous."

-- Bob Arum, fight promoter
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13 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

I think a rematch was built into the contract.

"I'm going to make a lot of money on the rematch, but this was outrageous."

-- Bob Arum, fight promoter

I am not a Manny fan or even a boxing fan. Saw this at a sports club with some friends and even I knew that this was a horrible decision. The judges must have had some sort of agenda.

The marketer in me though thinks that this could be intentional, either by the sport to bring attention to it (even negative) or by Arum or Manny (maybe they see this as a way to draw in Floyd), esp. given the last quote you just gave regarding Arum.
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13 years ago

Robbery of the century. Arum's plan to make more money on the rematch is on the right track... Unless Arum retire as a promoter, the sport of boxing continue to loss it's credibility..
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13 years ago

Not even a close...,,

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by magiclouie

Not even a close...,,

Total punchstat numbers don't matter when you're using a round by round scoring system.

Most rounds will be a 10-9 unless a fighter gets knocked down then most of the time the judges will score the round 10-8.

What if Bradley beat Manny 7 rounds to 5 rounds?

If you give the winner of each round a 10-9, Bradly would win the fight by 2 points on all judges scorecards.

Sometimes the punchstat numbers don't tell the whole story.

But I have not heard one person say that Bradly won the fight and the verdict was just.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Have you seen the fight?

But anyway, thanks for your info...,

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

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But I have not heard one person say that Bradly won the fight and the verdict was just.
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That one person would be in the minority. The general consensus is that Manny clearly won -- dominated -- the fight and that two of the judges in the controversial split decision victory messed up, while the judge who had Manny winning got it the most right.
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13 years ago

Even Bradley himself implied after the fight, "I'll have to look at the tape to see if I won." That comment simply shows that he knows he did not win. This is the worst decision I've ever seen and for me, any small bit of credibility that boxing had goes out the window.

Take a look at the compubox numbers.
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13 years ago

i will say it

bradley won the fight yesterday

in 1000 years bradley will still be the winner

live with it
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  What fight were you watching?
  
  Originally Posted by hardraysnight
  
  i will say it
  
  bradley won the fight yesterday
  
  in 1000 years bradley will still be the winner
  
  live with it
  
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13 years ago

Geez... considering all the great fights he's had now this happens. Oh well, let's wait for a rematch.
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13 years ago

Teddy Atlas called it right. The fix was in. "That's what's wrong with the profession, we
still have MOB influencing big fights. "
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13 years ago

I'm not suggesting...merely throwing it out on the table...could it have anything to do with Manny's recent "personal opinions"?

Again, just speculation...

*I would have to see the fight to tell, but 94 hits more, and even a split decision, would normally favor the champion, not the contender...
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13 years ago

I watched that fight and I had Manny winner 11 rounds out of 12. I watched the fight at Hooters and that place even went crazy. Mayweather has been telling everyone that Bob Arum is a snake, and he told Manny to leave Arum but he didn't listen. The rematch will not make a lot of money, what Arum is trying to do is replace Mayweather vs Manny with Mayweather vs Bradley.

After watching the fight I don't believe Bradley is ready for Mayweather, or was he ready to fight Manny. They was in there banging but Manny clearly won that fight to a lot of people.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by Clintin

I'd frankly love to still see a Manny/Mayweather fight. But I don't see Mayweather letting that happen.

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13 years ago

i'm just waiting for the fire sale on manny's nike shoes

look good, especially the laces, but at $170, they can whistle

maybe now the price will fall

failing that, i will be in baguio in a couple of months, good market there...
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13 years ago

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13 years ago

Manny lost because of the 3 blind mice...yes even jerry roth who had it 115-113 for pac. I had it 117-111 for Pacman. Bradley did pretty good going backwards for 12 rds for having two bad feet..lol After the fight Bradley told arum "I tried my best and couldn't beat him" Give Manny props for acting proffessional after the fight. In November its going to be Jones jr vs griffin 2....Pacman doesn't wanted it to go 12
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13 years ago

Same promoter for both fighters? You may as well be watching WWF. The only problem is that they didn't make the predetermined outcome believable enough.

I'll stick with watching UFC and other MMA fights.

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13 years ago

Originally Posted by garyv

Does the UFC have different promoters for different fighters? I thought it was the same promoter for every fighter.

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13 years ago

Whodunit? Conspiracy theories in Pacquiao-Bradley decision

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/-depth/06...-bradley-fight

Apparently, some are saying the re-match was slated before the fight even started?
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13 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Does the UFC have different promoters for different fighters? I thought it was the same promoter for every fighter.

Generally the fighters will be members of different "teams" that have sponsors, and the teams will promote the fighters.

I have seen controversial officiating of UFC fights also, but it's much easier to spot the setup when you have promoters like Don King or Bob Arum who make it obvious the benefit of throwing a fight.

If you're going to fool me, I'd rather be blissfully ignorant of it.

What pisses me off is that even though it's quite obvious the fight was rigged - they'll still have a re-match and fool millions into watching it again. They've turned a great boxer like Manny Pacquiao into a high paid organ grinder's monkey.
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  <snip>They've turned a great boxer like Manny Pacquiao into a high paid organ grinder's monkey.
  
  Manny Pacquiao dominated the match and fought a great fight. He wasn't being any organ grinder's monkey. Teddy Atlas would be more qualified than me in saying if any rotten stuff went on behind the scenes, and he suggested a lot but didn't in any way imply that Manny didn't fight an honest fight. Manny fought a real fight.
  
  As for the UFC, I've followed it for a long time. It used to be pretty crazy with no weight classes and fighters fighting several opponents in one tournament until there was only one man left standing, David vs Goliath type matches (the "David" usually won), etc. It is certainly different now, lol.
  
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13 years ago

manny should have won
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13 years ago

I fully believe that Manny Pacquiao fought what he thought was an honest fight. But the organ grinders around him set the stage and the outcome.

I didn't mean to imply that Manny himself was being dishonest. I have no way of knowing that. But if the outcome is already preordained, then Manny just becomes a puppet in a show.

It would have been nice to of had a knockout. That's another thing I like about UFC - the TKO percentage is higher. And you're right, it was very rough and unorganized in the beginning. But now the fighting is very technical - and for me highly entertaining to watch.
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13 years ago

I think that we were robbed..Not Manny or Tim. Lol. Some says its a set up because they're really going for the rematch.

For me, Manny should have won the match.
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