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12 years ago

Yeah, and I love it! A company that could not detect *****MAJOR***** *****FATAL***** and *****OBVIOUS***** problems would DARE to declare that they could do in less than 5 years what some in the past have waited over 100 years to find out.

There is NO way a person could monitor the millions of reactions in a person instantaneously and nobody understands them. The ONLY reliable way to really validate it is to look through several generations. For humans, that means an average of 44 years or more! ******FORTY***** years, and they claim they did it in like 5. If I someday worked as a chef, and had to cook their food, I might give them a hamburger in 1 minute! "But SIR! You asked for it well done, and wanted it fast! SO, a normal one takes 400f at 10 minutes, and I decided to instead cook it at 4000f in 1 minute!" It would be interesting to see what they would say!

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Still, the mere presence of the genetically modified plant could cause some countries to turn away exports of American wheat.

They'll buy the wheat or starve trying to make a point.

Either way, If wasn't shipped out of the country, someone will buy it for livestock feed.

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12 years ago

Don't kid yourself - if they can't sell that crap, it will end up in our own food.

I'm thinking there was no accident about this crop -- and I am also thinking it's not the only one. Until we destroy those companies (there's only 5 that actually control 100% of the industry now) we're probably eating a lot of GMO crops we don't know exist yet.

Russia is getting extremely angry at our admin for actually supporting the companies making the poisons that are killing bees, too. Kerry went to talk to Putin and he's so damned mad that Kerry didn't even talk to him. US support of this poisonous crap might just start a war. It might be the only way left to save the planet if our leaders are so damned greedy that they are willing to sacrifice everyone and everything for bucks.

You can't feed 7 bil people without bees. It's just freaky scary that they think they can make bee drones and everything will be just honky dory. You can't even write science fiction this bizarre.

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12 years ago

With all this talk about monsanto suing companies..... If I were a farmer, I would sue THEM!!!!!!!! I would liken their plants to a pack of wolves trying to destroy my crop which I would liken to a herd of docile and healthy sheep. I would say that monsanto KNEW this would happen and, of course, kept the male part of the plant healthy to do just that! I would further say that I LOST MY LIVELIHOOD due to their INTENTIONAL CRIMINAL TRESPASS!

I could ALSO speak of past failures of the FDA and all the myths they spread. Their lax behavior and the dangers they are SOLELY responsible for. And speak of things like DES, and thalidimide, that took over a generation notice problems!

I could talk of starvation, and how their method has increased costs, Who knows, maybe Howard Warren Buffett could talk about that!

IF my PERFECT ANALOGY were what actually happened, they would HAVE to award me a LOT! Due to the perpetual nature of this, it could BANKRUPT monsanto! If they failed to deliver, it would surely have to open many eyes.

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12 years ago

You can't feed 7 bil people without bees. It's just freaky scary that they think they can make bee drones and everything will be just honky dory. You can't even write science fiction this bizarre.

The rich and powerful, (or mainly CEO's) that control all this, wouldn't really care!

They would get up, enjoy the view of the ocean and go to their high paying job, with a half billion bonus pay at the end of it, or when they retire!

In the meantime they would probably buy up organic foods, and ignore all this, until their is an angry mob of farmers at their front gate demanding compensation!

It's really the French Revolution all over again, threat the poor like crap, and live in extreme wealth!

Probably also explains the Fluoride in drinking water issue, keep the poor especially subdued, and their is less of a chance they will storm wealthy suburbs or people like this destroying food production.

They need to pass legislation that anyone who manages or owns GM crops has to eat it as well.

I bet most wouldn't.

Or they would pay some poor sod from Africa that is desperate for any advantage to speak on their behalf, or at least until he ends up in hospital?

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PS in AU they are advancing the Fluoride control measure into rural areas, l suppose there are enough poor there as well?

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Japan has already canceled their tendered offer to buy U.S. wheat and So. Korea, China, and the Philippines are watching the situation. Those are our major wheat buyers. So I guess we can say goodbye to the people who live in those countries after they starve:rolleyes:
Oh wait, there are other foods to eat besides wheat, damn I almost forgot that.
Japan cancels U.S. wheat order on GMO fear: report - MarketWatch
But we're o.k. because the media never reports on gmo's and nobody knows the American people want gmo's labeled. So our food companies have nothing to worry about.
What's that New York Times? http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/bu...anted=all&_r=0

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

They'll buy the wheat or starve trying to make a point.

Either way, If wasn't shipped out of the country, someone will buy it for livestock feed.

The major buyers of US wheat are Japan, China, and the European Union, none of whom are terribly likely to starve to death without it.

They buy it because it's cheap but, if the US insists on selling them something other than what they ordered, or lets supplies be contaiminated, they'll simply move away from it - as Thom said, the Japanese have already cancelled orders at the behest of their government; South Korea, another big consumer of US wheat, has followed suit today and, within the last few hours, the European Union has issued an alert to it's member states, instructing them to inspect US imports for contamination.

Methinks Canadian farmers are probably licking their chops right now.

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12 years ago

Things aren't looking good for ole monsanto.

Japan earlier canceled plans to buy more wheat from the U.S. Other Asian countries said they're mulling similar moves. Meanwhile, Monsanto plans to quit lobbying for acceptance of its genetically modified seed in Europe, where it's met with strong resistance. Everyone from French wine producers to German crop growers has objected to its modified seed.
European farmers are concerned that GM crops, once growing, may spread uncontrollably via pollen floating on the wind.S. Korea Joins Japan Blocking Monsanto Modified Seed MON BC CZZ - Investors.com

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12 years ago

In the U.S., many farmers have boosted profit per acre and use of the GM crop seeds has spread quickly, despite lingering concerns.

Because so many "farms" are now agricultural conglomerates with only one concern - profit.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Because so many "farms" are now agricultural conglomerates with only one concern - profit.

Very true Kay. But that is one of the reasons gmo's will disappear when they are labeled. Ask any farmer no matter how big or small their farm and they will all tell you the same thing. They will grow whatever they can sell. Now because of things like the march against monsanto, states looking into labeling laws, and botcotts of some major food companies, food companies are starting to realize that they need to change their ingredients.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/bu...nted=all&_r=1&
AS more companies seek non-gmo ingredients more farmers will grow them.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

They will grow whatever they can sell.

Monsanto to stop seeking GMO approval in Europe - Business - CBC News

Looks like they've now given up trying to get European farmers to grow stuff they don't want to grow and can't sell, even if they do, citing a "lack of acceptance for this technology in many parts of Europe -- from the majority of consumers, farmers and politicians".

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas

Monsanto to stop seeking GMO approval in Europe - Business - CBC News

Looks like they've now given up trying to get European farmers to grow stuff they don't want to grow and can't sell, even if they do, citing a "lack of acceptance for this technology in many parts of Europe -- from the majority of consumers, farmers and politicians".

I know, great news.
What many people don't realize is farming is a business. They are going to grow what they can sell and hopefully make a profit on. When consumers only buy non gmo foods, farmers will stop growing them.

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In all fairness, it's one of my major concerns also.

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Originally Posted by ThomM

Japan has already canceled their tendered offer to buy U.S. wheat and So. Korea, China, and the Philippines are watching the situation. Those are our major wheat buyers. So I guess we can say goodbye to the people who live in those countries after they starve:rolleyes:
Oh wait, there are other foods to eat besides wheat, damn I almost forgot that.
Japan cancels U.S. wheat order on GMO fear: report - MarketWatch
But we're o.k. because the media never reports on gmo's and nobody knows the American people want gmo's labeled. So our food companies have nothing to worry about.
What's that New York Times?

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The major buyers of US wheat are Japan, China, and the European Union, none of whom are terribly likely to starve to death without it.

They buy it because it's cheap but, if the US insists on selling them something other than what they ordered, or lets supplies be contaiminated, they'll simply move away from it - as Thom said, the Japanese have already cancelled orders at the behest of their government; South Korea, another big consumer of US wheat, has followed suit today and, within the last few hours, the European Union has issued an alert to it's member states, instructing them to inspect US imports for contamination.

Methinks Canadian farmers are probably licking their chops right now.

Lol, they won't buy raw wheat but they'll buy the heck out of processed foods that include wheat.

You guys act like raw wheat is the only wheat people consume. :rolleyes:

Also don't forget livestock doesn't care about any GMO, there's plenty of farmers/business people that will step up to buy that wheat to make a living.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

They'll buy the wheat or starve trying to make a point.

Either way, If wasn't shipped out of the country, someone will buy it for livestock feed.

Originally Posted by yukon

Lol, they won't buy raw wheat but they'll buy the heck out of processed foods that include wheat.

You guys act like raw wheat is the only wheat people consume. :rolleyes:

Also don't forget livestock doesn't care about any GMO, there's plenty of farmers/business people that will step up to buy that wheat to make a living.

All wheat products start with raw wheat, or do you think farmers can grow wheat that is already processed.

Obviously you didn't read the articles at all.
Also you are wrong about the livestock. Numerous tests and studies have been done where gmo and non gmo feed have been placed side by side and in every case the livestock and even rats and mice have gone for the non gmo feed and left the gmo crap alone.
They only eat it when they are forced to with no other choice.

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12 years ago

Things like this make me sorry I didn't buy more land elsewhere and/or get a local job. SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!!!!! Do you have to do EVERYTHING else yourself to properly survive? TONS of things are done that are causing much of the disease. That is PROVEN FACT! and it is being thrown into our food! Smithfield foods, a meat company whose selling point is CLEAN, TRADITIONAL, HEALTHY, AMERICAN FOOD, has now been sold to the CHINESE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The CHINESE have been PROVEN to POISON pet food with melamine, to increase the protein indicated in tests. They apparently CAN'T test for protein, so they test for metabolites, and melamine makes those tests indicate higher amounts. The CHINESE have *****ALSO***** been PROVEN to POISON HUMAN PROTEIN through MILK PRODUCTS that contain CADMIUM, LEAD, NICKEL, etc.... WHY? MAYBE to increase weight and volume to drive income up, and also get rid of WASTE!

GEE, the US has been subsidizing milk for DECADES! Here's a thought.....

1. FORBID any import of milk products unless it is from GOOD milk PRODUCERS in GOOD countries!
2. KILL all subsidies to milk.
3. Watch the market price, AND general health, IMPROVE!

No offense to the chinese here, but the chinese should NOT be trusted due to hazardous materials in toys and food. WHO KNOWS what else is bad?

Of course, american drug companies are just as bad. and some american food companies are bad. CANADA won't accept some american products, and I can't blame them.

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12 years ago

Steve our country is just as bad if not worse then China when it comes to poisoning our food.
Look at milk for one example. Raw milk from cows that are grass fed is actually very healthy and good for us to drink. But all the milk and milk products you buy in a store comes from cows that are corn fed and because the cows are given an unnatural food they have to be pumped up with antibiotics. The cows then produce milk that is dangerous for us to drink so it has to be pasteurized which kills any of the beneficial bacteria or other things that are good for us in the milk. This results in the F.D.A. telling us that raw milk is dangerous. Then you have the great idea that monsanto had to inject the cows with Recumbent Bovine Growth Hormone (to increase production) which is then passed on to the kids (and adults) who drink it. Even though it's a bovine growth hormone it still effects humans. Ever notice how children physically mature at a younger age now then they did before the growth hormone was used? The F.D.A.'s response to the growth hormone was to make it illegal to label milk or milk products that have it in them. Not they are looking into adding aspartame to milk so it will be sweeter and so more kids will drink it. Naturally the milk doesn't have to be labeled if it contains it. Our own govt. has done more to hide ingredients in our foods that are dangerous to protect the profits of the corporations then any other nation at any time in our history.

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12 years ago

Here's a bit more about the milk, Steve.
Coming Soon! Monsanto Milk with GMOs and Aspartame!
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Originally Posted by ThomM

Steve our country is just as bad if not worse then China when it comes to poisoning our food.
Look at milk for one example. Raw milk from cows that are grass fed is actually very healthy and good for us to drink. But all the milk and milk products you buy in a store comes from cows that are corn fed and because the cows are given an unnatural food they have to be pumped up with antibiotics. The cows then produce milk that is dangerous for us to drink so it has to be pasteurized which kills any of the beneficial bacteria or other things that are good for us in the milk. This results in the F.D.A. telling us that raw milk is dangerous. Then you have the great idea that monsanto had to inject the cows with Recumbent Bovine Growth Hormone (to increase production) which is then passed on to the kids (and adults) who drink it. Even though it's a bovine growth hormone it still effects humans. Ever notice how children physically mature at a younger age now then they did before the growth hormone was used? The F.D.A.'s response to the growth hormone was to make it illegal to label milk or milk products that have it in them. Not they are looking into adding aspartame to milk so it will be sweeter and so more kids will drink it. Naturally the milk doesn't have to be labeled if it contains it. Our own govt. has done more to hide ingredients in our foods that are dangerous to protect the profits of the corporations then any other nation at any time in our history.

Intentional failure to label aspartame could result in a HUGE lawsuit that could become CRIMINAL as in MAN SLAUGHTER!

Some people aren't able to metabolize aspertame well enough, and it can play havok with protein metabolism and the brain. That is FACT and PROVEN and the law REQUIRES labeling because of it! From wikipedia:

High levels of the naturally-occurring essential amino acid phenylalanine are a health hazard to those born with phenylketonuria (PKU), a rare inherited disease that prevents phenylalanine from being properly metabolized. Since individuals with PKU must consider aspartame as an additional source of phenylalanine, foods containing aspartame sold in the United States must state "Phenylketonurics: Contains Phenylalanine" on their product labels.[49]

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More GMO News...

Ben & Jerry’s to stop using genetically-modified ingredients - Salon.com

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An example of the power monsanto has over our own govt.
U.S. tax dollars promote Monsanto's GMO crops overseas: report | Reuters

A good explanation of the DNA myth.
UNRAVELING THE DNA MYTH The spurious foundation of genetic engineering Barry Commoner / Harper's Magazine Feb02

Hungary fights back.
Hungary destroys more than 1,200 acres of GMO corn by fire - Dallas healthy living | Examiner.com

Dr. Suzuki weights in on GE trees.
GE Trees May Be Even More Damaging to the Environment than GE Foods | REALfarmacy.com | Healthy News and Information
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