PETA Murders Animals (that is, Adoptable Pets)

are you sure about this because, its a big organization and they have a reputation.

Or may be thats just a cover who knows:confused:

Puts beautiful PETA girl on youtube thumbnail

No girl in video. Instead two guys rant about PETA


fail.

PETA is an animal terrorist organization. They believe the animals are better off dead than with humans.
One of those Fuzz Nazis was bitching at me about how my dog was my slave because he was on a leash. Munchie happened to be about 170 pounds and his head came up to the bottom of my ribs - his shoulders were as broad as mine. If that dog had wanted to go, I could not have stopped him. We were pals and we listened to each other....especially in the mountains.

Well, I told the guy the dog was on the leash to satisfy cops, but I'd be glad to let him off if he wanted me to. The guy said something really gruff and raised his hand real fast (not to hit me, but for emphasis). Munch growled and jumped in front of me and squared off.

I laughed and told the guy "this is my best friend, I'd show a little respect if I were you". Scared the dude shitless and a half. I asked him "would you like me to let him go now?" He just kind of took a few steps back and then turned and walked off.

I wouldn't let one of those freaked out nut jobs near an animal of mine.

Yeah, heysal is right. have you seen how they have treated some test animals?

Are animals mistreated by humans? YEP! Calling an animal on a lease a slave or something is wrong though. What would you exect someone to do? Just let the animal run free where ANYTHING could happen? You don't even really give HUMANS that kind of freedom! And heysal sounds like the type of person that fed Munchie good cuts of meat, and let Munchie do almost anything in the home.

But peta is really doing it all wrong. If they REALLY wanted to solve the problem, they should:

1. expose it
2. reveal solutions that DON'T harm animals
3. work to get their solutions implemented, and rules passed
4. maybe frustrate the straglers in the end by, among other things, freeing animals that could live properly outside.

But what do THEY do?

1. frustrate and annoy all that seem to be against their ideas
2. set any animals free WITHOUT considering viability

So what happens?

They will do things like throw red paint on apparent fur stoles, to make people angry. This may actually ENCOURAGE purchasing of new ones! People will think about them, and the old one may be replaced. Face it! The animals have ALREADY died. They may have been raised only for that purpose.

They will go in and release animals without concern for how they are. Some may even have problems that people are treating.

The odd part is that I DOUBT anyone likes animal experimentation. You DO have to give them SOME remedial care. ALSO, if you are smart, initial development will have at least 2 subjects, and final tests could have DOZENS. And there is space, disposal, hygiene, food, infections, etc.... that have to be considered. They are doing this because of legal and development complexities. If you have a way to develop better, and it satisfied the law, I think EVERYONE would appreciate it.

Steve

Disgustingly amazing report. I did not even know they ran facilities, I thought they were just "activists".

Very sad that the head of PETA would think it's okay to not run no kill shelters because of what they want to do with their budget.

I knew someone who did not believe in having her dogs on leash because of the slavery idea. One day she had two dogs, the next she had one because one got run over. She lived near a major street. The idiot was not even phased and still kept her Husky/wolf mix (of all breeds) off leash.

Also, I used to walk Nikko on leash in Breckenridge, CO a lot. He was a 75 pound rescued Husky. In Breckenridge, dogs can be off leash as long as they are "under control by voice command". He was charged at several different times by different off leash dogs.

One time, it was by accident these dogs were off leash, but we were charged at by two adult St. Bernards. It's scary to see two large dogs aggressively charging at you with their mouths open. Fortunately they backed off because Nikko whipped around, crouched and growled, and I did about the same human equivalent. Imagine if it had been a kid or old lady, instead of me, walking a gentler dog than Nikko.

Dogs are dogs and need to be on leash to protect themselves, other people and other animals.

Dan

PS - the link Thunderbird provided now has a 500 Internal Server error.

PETA does also give away items to their members that are made of animal leather/hide.

And many of the PETA members also drive around in cars with leather seats.

Most synthetic shoes are stinky. Really stinky because the material does not breathe.

I'm a strong supporter of animal rights but am very suspicious of PETA. I wouldn't be surprised to learn they are secretly funded by big agra companies or other establishment institutions. I'm not talking about average members -most are well intentioned, though some are true fanatics.

Either way, they are constantly attracting the kind of publicity that makes it easy to laugh at animal rights in general. This makes many average people equate animal rights with extreme political correctness or fanaticism.

That makes for effective propaganda for factory farming, animal experimentation, etc. "You're against factory farming? What are you, one of those PETA people who thinks having pets or raising a few chickens is evil?"

I don't live in the States and don't know anything about PETA, surely from the above post they are doing as much as they can..being human, they sometimes get it wrong, like our SPCA.

Here's something that is done in every country, including the US and my own..which to my mind is appalling

In hatcheries where baby chicks are born, the male chicks, just been born, are gathered up from a conveyer belt and put into a mincer, so cruel..how can this practise be humane.

Also I used to work at a freezing works, well we all eat the meat from young animals, well I sure wasn't aware that bobby calves are separated from their Mama's and sent to the works within days of being born..I have difficulty in not seeing that as cruel..yet it's a commercial decision that's made every day by farmers.

PETA murders animals and make no attempt to find homes for them. Sure, they write up double-faced rationalizations but the fact is they kill nearly 100% of the animals that come their way, many of them adoptable.

"New records show PETA killed a staggering 89.4 percent of the adoptable pets in its care during 2012."

The thing is most PETA animals are not really adoptable.

They just pickup stray dogs and cats in the street.

Apparently PETA supported a program to nuke the whales in the late 80s.

Damn - size your pictures.

Steve - You are right. I feed a dog real meat and dry food that has no grains in it whatsoever. I'm fussy about my dog's diet. I'm also VERY fussy about training. When you own dogs that outweigh you by up to 70 pounds, it's just downright irresponsible not to train them impeccably. I also train them to understand what I am saying to them - and situations. I have an ebook called "Smart Beyond Obedience" and that is how I handle a dog. By the time my dog is an adult, I just talk to them, and they will respond accordingly. Even little Ricky that I got as an old man has gained one heck of a lot of smarts since I've had him. I find the idea of a dog only knowing a few one word commands as a completely deranged idea. Dogs can understand hundreds of words as well as simple syntax. I studied canine linguistic acquisition when I was in linguistic classes - and if you ask me, at least working class dogs, have amazing communications facilities.

I've never had a dog who NEEDED to be on a leash by the time we'd been together a year. Leashes are required by law in some places. I find them handy at times when I'm distracted because the dog pays attention to what's going on so I don't have to. It's not just me that takes excellent care of my dogs - they take terrific care of me, too. That's what friends do. My dogs are so far from enslaved with me that I find the idea completely ludicrous that they are "owned" because of a leash.

As far as people spray painting fur...........when I lived in the mountains of CO (which are huge mountains - 13 - 14,000 feet), with Blitz, we did search and rescue. There was lottery hunting territory that started in my backyard. In cold weather - we wore fur. Period. These damned tourists would come out and protest that like a bunch of idiot clowns and try to spray any fur they saw. Funny -- when they got lost in cold weather, and you found them and offered to change coats with them, since they were usually hypothermic, not one of them would object to the idea of it. There's a big difference between wearing fur for survival in harsh weather conditions and wearing it as bling to jump out of the back of a limo and run in the front door of the theater. That attitude backfired on a few people, too - when I refused to take Blitz out after someone. I'm not a humanitarian. If someone is an asshole to me, they better not need my help later on because it won't be there.

As far as PETA - they do rescues sometimes such as factory farms where the animals are already just so mutilated that they are beyond rehabilitation -- but they kill a lot that had the animals been placed on REAL farms, they could have recovered and been whole and happy. When they rescue animals that are strayed pets, they don't even try to save them - and that's all just very wrong. An organization that size could build a system of connections that would allow them to save a LOT of those animals. They just don't bother.

As far as the Humane Society - if you donate to local shelters, they use the money for the animals - if you donate at the national level - a LOT of your money goes into the admin's pockets for their lucrative salaries.
No kill shelters? Some are terrific and some are nightmares run by animal horders who refuse almost every person that tries to adopt. My niece worked in one of them and it made her sick to see the animals kept in cages for years on end and seeing people who would have been terrific owners turned away because the people that ran the shelters thought NOBODY was good enough.

People who donate to animal organizations need to really really research before forking over their cash. People who want to adopt an animal in need should get them wherever they can find the one they want.

Killed by PETA : Nathan J Winograd

"While communities across the country are ending the killing of healthy and treatable animals, with save rates as high as 98 percent, in 2011, PETA killed 96 percent of all dogs and cats and 93 percent of other companion animals such as rabbits that it took in, despite revenues of over 30 million dollars a year and millions of animal-loving members.
When PETA representatives have been questioned about this killing, they’ve argued that all of the animals they kill are 'unadoptable.' But this claim is a lie for numerous reasons. It is a lie because rescue groups and individuals have come forward stating that the animals they gave PETA were healthy and adoptable, as detailed above, and PETA insiders have admitted as much, one former intern reporting that he quit in disgust after witnessing perfectly healthy puppies and kittens in the kill room."

My vet will have nothing to do with one of our local shelters that claims to be a no kill shelter. She will give her all to another local shelter.

This is coming from a vet and a woman who tranquilized a 90 lb. dog she had taken personal responsibility to rescue from a scheduled kill at a County shelter. After she tranked the dog, it still ran about two miles and she tracked it down and carried it back to her truck. In the snow, in the high Colorado Rockies. A 90 pound dog. A 110 pound woman.

Local or national, be careful which animal rescue group/shelter you support.

As far as adopting pets from a shelter, they were likely abandoned or a stray. But, a good facility will do all sorts of personality and behavior testing before they put an animal up for adoption.

I agree with Kay that spaying or neutering, and adopting a rescue animal is the best course of action. A good shelter will have a waiting list for those who really want to adopt a certain breed.

Dan

Seems the topic is confusing . Is the topic what to do with animals that don't have a home or how a group that claims to be for the protection of such animals really a major killer of them?

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There is a similar situation with the RSPCA (Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) which is an older and more respected organization than PETA.

RSPCA destroys HALF of the animals that it rescues - yet thousands are completely healthy | Mail Online

A lot of people give their pet to the RSPCA when they can no longer take care of them and thinking that it will be safe with the organization.

OK, a lot of you have the WRONG idea! PETA is NOT the US equivalent of wha you are talking about.

THAT honor belongs to an organization in the US created in 1866. ASPCA So the ASPCA is still around and started 114 years BEFORE PETA!

ALSO, PETA is NOT an american company, but international. That means they may have offices in YOUR country, etc... So saying "our country is DIFFERENT" is just DUMB! Don't believe me? OK:

UK Home | PETA.org.uk

France PETA France

GERMANY peta.de :: PETA Deutschland (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals)

Australia PETA Australia | PETA.org.au

India PETA India: India's Animal Rights Organisation | PETAIndia.com NOTE: India has two REALLY official languages, hindi and english. This site just happens to be in english.

Netherlands PETA Netherlands

asia pacific PETA Asia-Pacific

CHINA ????????

Latino PETA Latino: Derechos para los animales para la comunidad Latina

latino includes mexico, cuba, spain, etc...

Steve

I'm not sure about PETA, don't know anything about them, but there are others that will do whatever they can to help stray dogs. I saw the video below last week and he has a really good channel that I kind of couldn't stop watching.