Fax marketing? Have you still got a fax number?

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I got a fax....

...about fax marketing.

Is anybody using faxes to promote anymore?

Share your thoughts and any successes or failures.

I like the personalized "Worth a Call" and the general copy....what do you think?

#fax #marketing #number
  • Profile picture of the author trevord92
    I got rid of my fax machine years ago, dusted one off for a friend to send a fax a few months ago and then promptly unplugged it. He hasn't had a business fax line for several years now.

    Personal view is that fax marketing has gone the way of the dinosaur.
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    • Profile picture of the author Oziboomer
      Originally Posted by trevord92 View Post

      I got rid of my fax machine years ago, dusted one off for a friend to send a fax a few months ago and then promptly unplugged it. He hasn't had a business fax line for several years now.

      Personal view is that fax marketing has gone the way of the dinosaur.
      I find it interesting that the only thing the advertiser tells you to do via fax is "unsubscribe"

      For all other communication they want the "call" or "email"

      Many long time established businesses may still have a fax number even if it is converted into be read on screen.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Not legal to spam fax in the US.

    I do still have a machine fax number, and a email fax number.
    It is to get reservations from some of our travel agents, and occasionally
    take an individual reservation. The only way to compliantly transmit credit
    card data. (PCI compliance is the credit card industry standard in the USA.)
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    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
      I recall Aussie Mal Emery had a positive impact on his client
      by using fax blasts.

      He was a engine rebuilder.

      Mal got him to work out what a client [mechanic shop]
      was worth to himself and what he was prepared to pay to get
      the revenue from a client.

      That number was then translated to the retail value of the number of rebuilds.

      This became the offer in the fax blast.

      Buy x number of rebuilds and get x number free.

      Of course there was other value adding around it as well.

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      Doctor E. Vile
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Lessard
    Just like I know the sun is going to set I know there are going to be "fax is dead" comments. As I have pointed out in other threads pretty much nothing ever dies, it is how you do it and who you are aiming at and what your expectations are that matter.

    Are there guys making horse shoes on every corner? No.
    Is there still someone somewhere in the world making a living making horse shoes? Yes.

    Yes I still have a fax number. It is almost never used but when it has it has been used it was for the largest and most important transactions I have ever done in business and real estate.

    Also I get emails all the time and many are ignored. I have NEVER received an alert on my smartphone that said "you have received a fax" and not read it. (my fax number is with an online service provider and I get an electronic copy)

    As for marketing I am still in touch with a client that I helped develop a fax marketing program with about 16 years ago. He still makes money with it because it works with his demographic of older company owners/managers that have lots of money! He was told a decade ago that his marketing would die a quick and painful death due to his reliance on this method. The guy that told him that is out of business, he is not lol

    Why do people still use faxing and who are the biggest users?
    faxes are still being used regularly, particularly for transactional documents, such as contracts, invoices, sales orders, billing alerts, legal notices, patient records and lab results. He said the largest users tend to be organizations that are highly regulated, like those in the health, legal and financial industries. - See more at: Faxing (2.0) Is Still Essential For Many Small Businesses

    faxes are still being used regularly, particularly for transactional documents, such as contracts, invoices, sales orders, billing alerts, legal notices, patient records and lab results. He said the largest users tend to be organizations that are highly regulated, like those in the health, legal and financial industries. - See more at: Faxing (2.0) Is Still Essential For Many Small Businesses
    Faxes are still being used regularly, particularly for transactional documents, such as contracts, invoices, sales orders, billing alerts, legal notices, patient records and lab results. The largest users tend to be organizations that are highly regulated, like those in the health, legal and financial industries. Reasons for use include the need for an actual signature, proof that a document was received and time sensitivity issues.

    Of course the faxing game has changed. You may still "fax" but it might be from a smarthphone or smart printer/scanner and may pop up on the other end on a screen but it sure is not dead. I figure faxing will be around as long as dentures ;-)

    As far as it being legal meh, there is always a way ;-)

    P.S
    In regards to using a fax service like the one in the example above many are pretty sketchy. I almost always bought/scraped my own lists and sent for about 6 cents per fax. My client I mention did find a good provider that actually delivered the faxes as promised but the provider was an exception.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ron Lafuddy
      Originally Posted by Peter Lessard View Post

      Just like I know the sun is going to set I know there are going to be "fax is dead" comments. As I have pointed out in other threads pretty much nothing ever dies, it is how you do it and who you are aiming at and what your expectations are that matter.
      Yep, there's always some fluffer, proclaiming the end of this or that. Meanwhile, folks just continue to make money doing it.

      In the states, it's legal to send faxes, as long as you have permission. That's easy to get.

      I just introduced an auto detailer to my lunch/fax program. I got the idea for it from WF poster, Don Alm. The detailer needed something to fill the income gap during slow winter months.

      He has over 300 offices as customers. Getting permission to fax them local restaurant lunch specials was easy - and welcome. With 18 restaurants participating, it's turning out to be very lucrative for him.
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      • Profile picture of the author Oziboomer
        Originally Posted by Ron Lafuddy View Post

        Yep, there's always some fluffer, proclaiming the end of this or that. Meanwhile, folks just continue to make money doing it.

        In the states, it's legal to send faxes, as long as you have permission. That's easy to get.

        I just introduced an auto detailer to my lunch/fax program. I got the idea for it from WF poster, Don Alm. The detailer needed something to fill the income gap during slow winter months.

        He has over 300 offices as customers. Getting permission to fax them local restaurant lunch specials was easy - and welcome. With 18 restaurants participating, it's turning out to be very lucrative for him.
        Thanks Ron for sharing this.

        I have staff that still prefer to fax rather than email or call.

        There is some opportunity right there that anyone with initiative could run with.

        It has got me thinking about how to adapt the strategy so I can get my offline business in front of locals without being invasive.

        Just as Martin and Ron said, A large company I worked for received daily lunch deals from a deli and the secretary would ask everyone if they wanted something that day and would write all the orders down and fax it back.

        That seemed to work out best for everyone involved. It was easier than phoning in large orders and it almost entirely cut down on any mistakes from miscommunication over the phone.
        Thanks Joe,

        I like the "reduction in mistakes" and the "large orders"

        Who wouldn't like to get an easy to follow order that was above average.

        Quite compelling and if one coupled it with an easy to fill out form that was pre-printed I'm sure you could benefit both the takeaway - deli - business and the prospective advertisers who may like to sponsor the order forms.

        There are so many variants that could be applied to this scenario.
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  • Profile picture of the author AmericanMuscleTA
    I don't see why fax couldn't work today.

    I've talked with a few orthodontists and most of them still use fax.

    And, yeah, what BizGrower said about fax in the U.S.
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    • Profile picture of the author MartinBuckley
      I think fax marketing could still work if done right, such as getting fax subscribers for say a daily deal sheet with coupons or a newsletter for business owners and have paid ads from companies offering products or service that other business owners might need. This is just 2 ideas that popped in my head, but I know there can be many other ways to make money with fax marketing, so with that being said I wish you all the best!
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe J
    Just as Martin and Ron said, A large company I worked for received daily lunch deals from a deli and the secretary would ask everyone if they wanted something that day and would write all the orders down and fax it back.

    That seemed to work out best for everyone involved. It was easier than phoning in large orders and it almost entirely cut down on any mistakes from miscommunication over the phone.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Fax marketing? Have you still got a fax number?
    You would have better luck with a HAM radio.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ron Lafuddy
    Thanks, Ozi.

    Getting the offer into the right persons hands is what it's all about.

    I love the immediacy of a fax machine. I find that my faxes get handed
    to the intended party. No gatekeeper to overcome.

    I get the results TODAY, which is what I'm looking for.


    In fact, as Peter talked about in post #6, if somebody is looking for income, start a fax service. There are millions of fax numbers available to you. You won't hit the limit.

    The detailer I mentioned has over 400 offices on his fax list. Each office is worth about $20/mo. in income to him, at this point.

    You do the math.

    Ron
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      I still use a FAX machine. And I get FAXs. They get looked at right away, because some of the things we get faxed are contracts. Every supplier we deal wit has a FAX machine.
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      • Profile picture of the author Peter Lessard
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I still use a FAX machine. And I get FAXs. They get looked at right away, because some of the things we get faxed are contracts. Every supplier we deal wit has a FAX machine.
        I still get called in for consultations at Filemaker (division of apple) and Costco Canada headquarters. Didn't see any ham radios but they all still use faxing to place and take orders, sign contracts etc...

        Don't recall EVER hearing "ya, got that fax a few weeks ago but have not got around to reading it yet"

        When I did one of my longest stints at Costco head office I got to using a nearby mechanic that was amazing, did oil changes, winter proofing etc... super nice guy very professional. He asked me how he could get more of the hundreds of workers at this head office to use his services. Got him some internal fax numbers, the rest is history. There was also a nearby bakery that made killer sandwiches. We used to fax in our orders and they would deliver. When I say "used to" I mean 2 years ago and they still do it today.

        Having said that fax marketing is like all marketing, 95% of folks will totally screw it up and lose money. Doesn't make it dead though.
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  • Profile picture of the author mohsin qureshi
    No doubt, Fax was a revolutionary invention. At the time when only land line phone available.
    I have still a fax but its use not on regularly, i often use it. Today when we see the latest technologies like email smart phone etc, and even you take a picture from your smart phone and send it in seconds to anywhere on the world, but the time when fax was introduce its a great opportunity to send documents. Now a days use of fax is not as its past but we cannot completely rule out its need.
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