I Challenge Anyone to Top This

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SEO as you know it is a myth. I can rank a website on page 1 with no content (website is empty) and zero backlinks.

Google "cpa dallas". My site is on position 1B.

Let's see if anyone can discover how.

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I have deleted the listing, but feel free to read the comments to see what it was all about, or check my signature.
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  • Profile picture of the author jesus72knight
    Could you please give us the URL of your site. And what do you mean by position 1B?
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by jesus72knight View Post

      Could you please give us the URL of your site. And what do you mean by position 1B?
      Position 1B is in position 1 (top of the page) letter B.
      My website is the one with phone number 972-584-0149
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  • Profile picture of the author jesus72knight
    Oh. I've seen it. It's empty indeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    Your using sub-domains that are keyword targeted. Nice trick with the domain you registered http://com-get-additional.info = )
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      Your using sub-domains that are keyword targeted. Nice trick with the domain you registered Get More Information = )
      YOU GOT IT!!

      This is the power of subdomains. No Content or SEO required.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
        I picked it up pretty fast as I have a an article syndication network and am releasing sub domains for private blogs for my users. = )

        Originally Posted by henrywolf2010 View Post

        YOU GOT IT!!

        This is the power of subdomains. No Content or SEO required.
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  • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
    OK, someone figured it out. I had a little fun. Time to delete the listing and go back to my work.
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    • Profile picture of the author millermichael
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      • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
        Originally Posted by millermichael View Post

        I think your doing some ice breaker not for yourself but also to other warrior members, I hope you will have another gig like this and will give a priceto anyone know it
        That's a good idea. I'll do that if I think of something.
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  • Profile picture of the author newbie2011
    Hey

    I could not locate this site with phone number 972-584-0149.
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      See my post above yours. I just deleted it. However, I just checked it and it's still there. Check again.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrCruzin
    This is very misleading your site is not setup for regular SEO, it is setup for local SEO, anyone can add there site to that and get on there.

    What you did to get there required SEO as you did with the name and such.

    Nice trick though I will give you that.
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by MrCruzin View Post

      This is very misleading your site is not setup for regular SEO, it is setup for local SEO, anyone can add there site to that and get on there.

      What you did to get there required SEO as you did with the name and such.

      Nice trick though I will give you that.
      If you have ever bought any courses about how to get on Page 1 of Google Places all of them claim that you need to do a lot of SEO on YOUR site in order to make it to Page 1. I proved that wrong.

      Now, about your statement that anyone can get their site there and do this. It is true that anyone can add their website, but you're missing the point here. Can they place it on PAGE 1? Better yet, can you do it?
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      • Profile picture of the author Bronwyn and Keith
        Hey Henry

        Saw your WSO about this a few days ago.

        The interesting thing will be to see if they stick for the long haul or if you need to do the standard Google Places backend work.

        Regards

        Bronwyn and Keith
        Originally Posted by henrywolf2010 View Post

        If you have ever bought any courses about how to get on Page 1 of Google Places all of them claim that you need to do a lot of SEO on YOUR site in order to make it to Page 1. I proved that wrong.

        Now, about your statement that anyone can get their site there and do this. It is true that anyone can add their website, but you're missing the point here. Can they place it on PAGE 1? Better yet, can you do it?
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        • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
          Originally Posted by bronke13 View Post

          Hey Henry

          Saw your WSO about this a few days ago.

          The interesting thing will be to see if they stick for the long haul or if you need to do the standard Google Places backend work.

          Regards

          Bronwyn and Keith
          I started toying with this concept about a year ago and spent about 6 months testing (too long, in my opinion). So far, my listings have stayed on Page 1.

          I even have 2 listings still on Page 1 two months after I deleted them. Ironically, I can't get them off because I can't use those keywords!
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          • Profile picture of the author Bronwyn and Keith
            Hi Henry

            It's good that you have some longer term results.

            What's really funny though is the ones that you have deleted that are still showing up.

            Looks like the Big G must have missed those entries!!!

            Regards

            Bronwyn and Keith
            Originally Posted by henrywolf2010 View Post

            I started toying with this concept about a year ago and spent about 6 months testing (too long, in my opinion). So far, my listings have stayed on Page 1.

            I even have 2 listings still on Page 1 two months after I deleted them. Ironically, I can't get them off because I can't use those keywords!
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  • Profile picture of the author Charles Harper
    The answer is yes I could do it if I wanted.

    The sub-domain is not as much the issue as is your use of Dallas Maps content.

    And even though you did not use much SEO, you and the A position could be taken out with about 2 hours of work.

    But, as others have said, if you are using it to advertise your services to Dallas CPA's...nice job.

    CT
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    • Profile picture of the author kershawm
      So, if we pay you for your service to put a subdomain of our choice on your website, it will get top rankings quickly? Then, we just redirect to a page or site of our own, perhaps with a lead capture mechanism, then we're golden?

      Sounds good.

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      • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
        Originally Posted by kershawm View Post

        So, if we pay you for your service to put a subdomain of our choice on your website, it will get top rankings quickly? Then, we just redirect to a page or site of our own, perhaps with a lead capture mechanism, then we're golden?

        Sounds good.

        -Mike
        That's what's working for me. But you do need to know how to PROPERLY list it in Google Maps.
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    • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
      Originally Posted by Charles Harper View Post

      The sub-domain is not as much the issue as is your use of Dallas Maps content.


      CT
      Correcto! It looks like custom Maps are slowly becoming more important than "citations"... but subdomains DO help. I have few competitors using them successfully...



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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by Charles Harper View Post

      The answer is yes I could do it if I wanted.

      The sub-domain is not as much the issue as is your use of Dallas Maps content.

      And even though you did not use much SEO, you and the A position could be taken out with about 2 hours of work.

      But, as others have said, if you are using it to advertise your services to Dallas CPA's...nice job.

      CT
      I'm not using this to advertise to CPA's. I just picked this keyword a random, and just to have some fun and interact with the WF community. Interestingly enough, I deleted this listing last night and is still showing.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Durham
    This is brilliant.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jimian
    Do you own CPAdallas.com ?
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by Jimian View Post

      Do you own CPAdallas.com ?
      I do not own cpadallas.com. Look closely at the url. I deleted the listing but may still show in your location.
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      • Profile picture of the author LarryS
        Great idea Henry! That's thinking outside of the box!

        I see how you have used this to promote Mr. Ed Moore. Do you lease the injury lawyer subdomain site to him? I'm assuming you could have lots of subdomains for all the different niches and just lease out each one to the highest bidder.

        Care to share?

        Larry
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        • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
          Originally Posted by LarryS View Post

          Great idea Henry! That's thinking outside of the box!

          I see how you have used this to promote Mr. Ed Moore. Do you lease the injury lawyer subdomain site to him? I'm assuming you could have lots of subdomains for all the different niches and just lease out each one to the highest bidder.

          Care to share?

          Larry
          Yes, I lease the subdomains to my clients. This technique allows me to pick ANY niche. I don't do the bidding thing. I just contact clients and offer to whoever says yes.

          Regarding your quote "care to share", I don't know if you mean sharing what I do or sharing my domains.
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  • Profile picture of the author thomasmps
    henry -sent you a pm.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aryan
    Excellent idea Henry.
    Your domain looks like a .info domain. Do you think this will help in SEO? Did you ever ranked in search results (not local biz listings) using these subdomains?
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by Aryan View Post

      Excellent idea Henry.
      Your domain looks like a .info domain. Do you think this will help in SEO? Did you ever ranked in search results (not local biz listings) using these subdomains?
      This also works in the Organic Results. And honestly, I didn't do a lot of testing in that, but the testing I did it takes about twice as long to rank in the organic search results.
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  • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
    I've been getting a lot of Private Messages with questions like
    "How do you do it?
    "Can I use your program?

    Here's the scoop:

    The answer to how I do it is in front of you. I use subdomains. Using the proper keyword as the subdomain is the key to 50% of this technique. Obviously I cannot tell everything because that would entail creating a course and selling it here or somewhere else. I'm not the teaching-type of guy and I don't make my money selling courses. Having said that, I created a WSO (the WSO was about leasing subdomains and not teaching) to find out several things about WSO buyers in case I wanted to create a course in the future teaching this technique and the results confirmed what I suspected. Before you ask, no, I won't reveal what I suspected.

    And regarding the other question, this is not a program. I only use a technique.

    At this time, the only service I offer is leasing subdomains and you can check my signature for that.

    If I wanted to create a course teaching my technique I would have to charge at least $297 and I don't think many people can/want to pay that.
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  • Profile picture of the author pethanks
    Good for you if you can do that. But for me I still believe in the power of doing SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author rohnsmith
    there is not much interesting. anyone can get first page ranking for the keywords that no one searches .....
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by rohnsmith View Post

      there is not much interesting. anyone can get first page ranking for the keywords that no one searches .....
      Oh my god. I guess nobody searches for auto insurance, attorneys, cpa's, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
    Does this mean you would have to have a hosting account with your main domain name (com-click-here-for-more.info) as the parent domain and then add the sub-domains?
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by Craig McPherson View Post

      Does this mean you would have to have a hosting account with your main domain name (com-click-here-for-more.info) as the parent domain and then add the sub-domains?
      Exactly right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
    Thanks Henry,

    One more question.

    Did you research find that you could rank in the organic search and not only the map section? If so, what time frame was attached to it?
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by Craig McPherson View Post

      Thanks Henry,

      One more question.

      Did you research find that you could rank in the organic search and not only the map section? If so, what time frame was attached to it?
      Yes, you can rank in the organic results but I found out that it takes twice as long to rank. I did not do a lot of testing because I figured why bother with organic results if I can rank in the Google Maps a lot faster and they're at the top of the page.
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  • Profile picture of the author sparckyz
    Interesting. Not usually much talk about using subdomains
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
    Henry,

    I lied. One more.

    So when you backlink would your anchor text be the domain name or your chosen keyword or both?
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by Craig McPherson View Post

      Henry,

      I lied. One more.

      So when you backlink would your anchor text be the domain name or your chosen keyword or both?
      The anchor text would be your chosen keyword which will be the subdomain.
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig McPherson
    cool

    Oh, BTW thanks for the sleepless night coming up (it is 9:42pm here)
    Plenty of ideas here.
    Thanks for the great post Henry
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  • Profile picture of the author jorry
    @ henry,

    Hi i am new to this form and my eyes are popping out :-)

    This is really great information.

    Thanks for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Foster
    Way to go man.

    Clients will think you're a genius if you can do this for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
    Originally Posted by henrywolf2010 View Post

    SEO as you know it is a myth. I can rank a website on page 1 with no content (website is empty) and zero backlinks.

    Google "cpa dallas". My site is on position 1B.

    Let's see if anyone can discover how.

    Theres about 5 wso's doing just that and far more in local google places search / maps.

    Sub Domain parlor tricks will only get you so far mate ...
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    • Profile picture of the author paragone
      Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post

      Theres about 5 wso's doing just that and far more in local google places search / maps.

      Sub Domain parlor tricks will only get you so far mate ...
      For the love of god, he was only doing it as an experiment and to have some fun with it...
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      • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
        Originally Posted by paragone View Post

        For the love of god, he was only doing it as an experiment and to have some fun with it...
        Seems its a service now and a potential upcoming product/course?

        Joking? perhaps NOT?
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      • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
        Originally Posted by paragone View Post

        For the love of god, he was only doing it as an experiment and to have some fun with it...
        Now what say you?
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  • Profile picture of the author paragone
    Henry, quick question..Great idea! I want to lease out the site to a client now but do you find Google doing a slap when you find a client and edit the phone/client etc information? Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
      Originally Posted by paragone View Post

      Henry, quick question..Great idea! I want to lease out the site to a client now but do you find Google doing a slap when you find a client and edit the phone/client etc information? Thanks
      You shouldn't be editing the phone number.Just forward it to your new client.
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  • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
    Jim, that is correct. It has nothing to do with penalizing anybody. They might just give up on putting ANY value to the company's name. That's it. And it should be this way from the very beginning.


    Thomas
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  • Profile picture of the author rigsster
    I was looking at your website- subdomainsolutions.com You mentioned there you would do the wordpress site for free and you also want an article from your subscriber, along with other requirements. However, on your video it seemed the subdomains were just redirects to the main domain. If its just a redirect, why would you need an article for the subdomaiin? I am a newbie so forgive me if the answer to this question is an obvious one.
    Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author MrCruzin
      Originally Posted by rigsster View Post

      I was looking at your website- subdomainsolutions.com You mentioned there you would do the wordpress site for free and you also want an article from your subscriber, along with other requirements. However, on your video it seemed the subdomains were just redirects to the main domain. If its just a redirect, why would you need an article for the subdomaiin? I am a newbie so forgive me if this an obvious one.
      1. because you would not do the redirect immediately, google would look at that as bad. From the intial check.

      2. this is a solution for you to rank the subdomain, him offering that would require more work that the low cost he is charging.
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by rigsster View Post

      I was looking at your website- subdomainsolutions.com You mentioned there you would do the wordpress site for free and you also want an article from your subscriber, along with other requirements. However, on your video it seemed the subdomains were just redirects to the main domain. If its just a redirect, why would you need an article for the subdomaiin? I am a newbie so forgive me if the answer to this question is an obvious one.
      Thanks.
      The article is necessary if you want to rank in the normal organic results (not in the Google Maps). If you want to rank in the Google Maps NO CONTENT IS NECESSARY as I proved when I ranked "CPA Dallas" using an empty site. However, I used some tricks that I won't reveal but using an article to rank in the Google Maps won't hurt.

      The content (article) is necessary for Google to find you. Once the visitors find you and they click on the link they will be redirected to the site of your choice.
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      • Profile picture of the author rigsster
        Thanks for the quick answer! This is really brilliant!
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        • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
          I started this thread as an experiment and to have some fun and interact with the WF community, but it has taken on a life of its own.

          If you want to order more than 3 keywords please send a message to support@subdomainsolutions.com and I will create a special page.

          In the meantime, feel free to post any questions, but I won't answer for at least 3 hours because I'm getting ready to watch a baseball game.

          Thanks everybody!
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  • Profile picture of the author ivanela33
    Hey Henry,

    Nice idea! I'm really contemplating leasing one of your subdomains but I just have one question: I googled "cpa dallas" and "austin injury attorney" but I couldn't see any of your listings. I know you tried deleting the cpa dallas but I read that some people were still able to see your listing but I can't.
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by ivanela33 View Post

      Hey Henry,

      Nice idea! I'm really contemplating leasing one of your subdomains but I just have one question: I googled "cpa dallas" and "austin injury attorney" but I couldn't see any of your listings. I know you tried deleting the cpa dallas but I read that some people were still able to see your listing but I can't.
      The cpa dallas listing is gone for good. The Austin Injury Laywer is still there. Is the one with the 866# position 1E.
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        • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
          Originally Posted by High Horsepower View Post

          I think the confusion comes in because the image on your website clearly shows a different listing than the one that appears today.

          The subdomain com-get-additional-information is no longer listed?
          That's right. The subdomain is not listed because it has been deleted. No address, no subdomain. When you say the image on my website I assume you're referring to the picture that I show as proof on my website Subdomain Solutions. I shows a different number because I was experimenting using different numbers including 800 numbers which are not supposed to work, and in the process I debunked another myth that we should always use a local number.
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  • Profile picture of the author ivanela33
    I did find your "Austin Injury Laywer" listing. I have one question, if I lease one of your subdomains, how will I be able to further optimize the google places information? For example, hours of operation, videos, pictures, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by ivanela33 View Post

      I did find your "Austin Injury Laywer" listing. I have one question, if I lease one of your subdomains, how will I be able to further optimize the google places information? For example, hours of operation, videos, pictures, etc.
      Sorry, but you're basically asking me to reveal my technique. The only thing I offer for $10 is a subdomain (which is 50% of the technique) that you can place in the Website section of your Google listing.

      I made another post about questions like "how do you do it" and in order to reveal my technique I would have to charge at least $297 and I'm not sure many people can or want to pay that.

      I may create a course or set up some kind of JV's, or offer Google Places listings at wholesale prices that people can resell to local customers, but I'm not sure when or if I'll ever do something like that.
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by ivanela33 View Post

      I did find your "Austin Injury Laywer" listing. I have one question, if I lease one of your subdomains, how will I be able to further optimize the google places information? For example, hours of operation, videos, pictures, etc.
      I probably misunderstood your question when I answered it on my previous post. But if you're referring to how you will be able to further optimize your listing (meaning how you will have access to it?) the answer is that it is YOUR listing and obviously you will have access to it.

      The only service I offer is a keyword-rich subdomain that you will place in the website section of your listing, which in many cases is the missing piece to a good ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author zkhan144
    Henry, thanks for confirming that u had an 'empty' site with just a subdomain as the keyword - I thought 'Google' is all about serving up great 'content' ... what happened? ... is Google slipping??? Is it that easy to FOOL Google???

    Smart trick on ur part, rating = A+ -- not so smart on Google's part, rating = F+
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by zkhan144 View Post

      Henry, thanks for confirming that u had an 'empty' site with just a subdomain as the keyword - I thought 'Google' is all about serving up great 'content' ... what happened? ... is Google slipping??? Is it that easy to FOOL Google???

      Smart trick on ur part, rating = A+ -- not so smart on Google's part, rating = F+
      Thanks for your post. Some people say that "tricks" are short-lived, but my listings have kept their ranking for 6 months and counting.
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  • Profile picture of the author ivanela33
    It seems I'm understanding your concept bettet. So a person sets up their own listing and with the power of your sobdomain, you get listed somewhere on the A through G lusting?
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by ivanela33 View Post

      It seems I'm understanding your concept bettet. So a person sets up their own listing and with the power of your sobdomain, you get listed somewhere on the A through G lusting?
      Yes, that's the idea. Some people picked it up right away and some were a little confused. It's my fault for not explaining it better.
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      • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
        Originally Posted by henrywolf2010 View Post

        Yes, that's the idea. Some people picked it up right away and some were a little confused. It's my fault for not explaining it better.
        Do you always try to exactly match "company name" and the subdomain?

        Sacramento Roof Repair
        sacramentoroofrepair.com-additional.info

        or could go for more natural:

        Smith Roof Repair
        sacramentoroofrepair.com-additional.info



        Thomas
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        • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
          Originally Posted by SirThomas View Post

          Do you always try to exactly match "company name" and the subdomain?

          Sacramento Roof Repair
          sacramentoroofrepair.com-additional.info


          or could go for more natural:

          Smith Roof Repair
          sacramentoroofrepair.com-additional.info



          Thomas
          The answer is in bold. You're in the group that got it right away.
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          • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
            Originally Posted by henrywolf2010 View Post

            The answer is in bold. You're in the group that got it right away.

            Have you tried the other one? I wonder if it could bring similar result?
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            • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
              Originally Posted by SirThomas View Post

              Have you tried the other one? I wonder if it could bring similar result?
              Yes I have, but the results are very unpredictable. My method is more consistent.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bayo
    Originally Posted by henrywolf2010 View Post

    SEO as you know it is a myth..
    Careful, SEO is the 'Golden Child' of the offline world and you might make some people unhappy with that statement, even though it's true.

    This is the simple site I use for marketing to Dentists - It is proof that SEO is more common sense and get on with it rather than wasting time looking for the latest 'trick' that fools Google

    A site I pulled together to show Dentists what's possible. Have done zero wit it since it was created and is the single most important factor in proving to Dentists prospects that positioning on page 1 of Google can be done.

    BAYO
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  • Profile picture of the author freudianslip27
    Henry,

    I am certainly impressed by your trick. I would be weary of working towards long-term results, but I don't see any harm with combining this with the full-blown strategy of doing an optimized listing in the google directory.

    OR doing the optimized listing and this trick. That way if this does stop working, you've got a plan b.

    Very eye-opening results. Thank you so much for sharing,

    Matt
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by freudianslip27 View Post

      Henry,

      I am certainly impressed by your trick. I would be weary of working towards long-term results, but I don't see any harm with combining this with the full-blown strategy of doing an optimized listing in the google directory.

      OR doing the optimized listing and this trick. That way if this does stop working, you've got a plan b.

      Very eye-opening results. Thank you so much for sharing,

      Matt
      Thanks for your post. Regarding long-term results how about 6 months and counting?
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  • Profile picture of the author Fallen_Angel
    This is great info. Great technique.
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  • Profile picture of the author joshril
    I'm a little late in this thread, but I want to thank you for sharing... This is a very interesting tactic.
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulintheSticks
    Newbie here. I assume this idea of using subdomains is only for people that already have a site without a keyword rich domain, is that correct?
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    • Profile picture of the author paragone
      Henry, what service do you use to forward the calls?? I tried Google Voices but I am having a problem. Tollfreeforwarding seem expensive.
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      • Profile picture of the author paragone
        or would you just change the number every time you get a new client. So for instance "dallas injury lawyer".. you would just change the new number over to the new client. But how would that work? All the citations and such are in the ex owners name..

        John
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    This is obviously working as I have done quit a bit of research and found some niche specific directory sites that have sub-domains ranking in the 7 box for companies who have paid for a listing.
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  • Profile picture of the author ivanela33
    Hey Henry,

    Just wondering how your technique with the new "google places" search has worked with the most recent update. Has google caught on or are you still getting top ranks?

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by ivanela33 View Post

      Hey Henry,

      Just wondering how your technique with the new "google places" search has worked with the most recent update. Has google caught on or are you still getting top ranks?

      Thanks
      One of my listings dropped from A to D, but the rest have held steady, even one of the ones that I deleted a long time ago, which is still in pos. A
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  • Profile picture of the author PaulintheSticks
    Newbie here. Have recently asked a couple questions, but got no response.

    Are subdomains just for businesses that can't get their keywords in their domain?
    And how do maps listings compare to regular organic results in terms of clicks?

    Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Leads4Builders
      went to your subdomain solutions site. The only subdomain I currently saw ranking is the dallas injury attorney site. Did your listings drop once Google rolled out it's new SERP?
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      • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
        Originally Posted by Leads4Builders View Post

        went to your subdomain solutions site. The only subdomain I currently saw ranking is the dallas injury attorney site. Did your listings drop once Google rolled out it's new SERP?
        My listings did not drop. On my site I listed only examples that I have deleted a long time ago but I also showed a live site (the one you mention) by mistake. Interestingly enough, two of my sites are still ranking even after 2 months, and even after two major Google updates.

        I wish those sites would disappear for good because I can't use those keywords and phone numbers.
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by healingaqua View Post

      Newbie here. Have recently asked a couple questions, but got no response.

      Are subdomains just for businesses that can't get their keywords in their domain?
      And how do maps listings compare to regular organic results in terms of clicks?

      Thanks.
      That's the main purpose (read the first paragraph of my site). Regarding your second question, Google Maps listings are at the top, and now with Google's latest update, they cover almost all the first page depending on the search term, so there's your answer.
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  • Profile picture of the author jimmack
    Nice! Learn something new everyday
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  • Profile picture of the author SirThomas
    It looks like "houston car insurance" is still at the top.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Callaghan
    Originally Posted by henrywolf2010 View Post

    SEO as you know it is a myth. I can rank a website on page 1 with no content (website is empty) and zero backlinks.

    Google "cpa dallas". My site is on position 1B.

    Let's see if anyone can discover how.

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    I have deleted the listing, but feel free to read the comments to see what it was all about, or check my signature.
    Fantastic tip! I wonder if Google will leave this type of listing up for long.....only time will tell.
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  • Profile picture of the author Xtrem3
    NICE one, i see your dallas injury lawyer place and keyword tool shows local 6600 monthly :|

    Thats a hard one to rank i am sure.
    Hey lets say if i just order the subdomain redirect from you and want to SEO myself. which URL should i seo the subdomain from you or the original?
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by Xtrem3 View Post

      NICE one, i see your dallas injury lawyer place and keyword tool shows local 6600 monthly :|

      Thats a hard one to rank i am sure.
      Hey lets say if i just order the subdomain redirect from you and want to SEO myself. which URL should i seo the subdomain from you or the original?
      I don't understand the last part of your question, but if you're asking which URL (the subdomain you order from me or the URL where the subdomain will redirect to), the answer is you SEO the URL with the subdomain in it, for example yourkeyword.com-get-additional.info
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      • Profile picture of the author Xtrem3
        Originally Posted by henrywolf2010 View Post

        I don't understand the last part of your question, but if you're asking which URL (the subdomain you order from me or the URL where the subdomain will redirect to), the answer is you SEO the URL with the subdomain in it, for example yourkeyword.com-get-additional.info
        Ok thanks, but i dont get why u need an article from us when its just redirecting to our own site which will have its own article and stuff? :confused:

        Btw my keyword gets around 600-700 searches per month. You think i will be able to rank at "A" between those easily?
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        • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
          Originally Posted by Xtrem3 View Post

          Ok thanks, but i dont get why u need an article from us when its just redirecting to our own site which will have its own article and stuff? :confused:

          Btw my keyword gets around 600-700 searches per month. You think i will be able to rank at "A" between those easily?
          An article is needed in order to have some content in the subdomain that you will try to rank, then redirect to your own website.
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          • Profile picture of the author Xtrem3
            Originally Posted by henrywolf2010 View Post

            An article is needed in order to have some content in the subdomain that you will try to rank, then redirect to your own website.
            Oh ok, got it
            Gonna order it soon (but first i gotta make a website first right?)
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            • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
              Originally Posted by Xtrem3 View Post

              Oh ok, got it
              Gonna order it soon (but first i gotta make a website first right?)
              You could redirect to your own website or your client's website.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dhira
    How do you contact clients who are willing to lease subdomains? Cold call or email? CLassified ads?
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by Dhira View Post

      How do you contact clients who are willing to lease subdomains? Cold call or email? CLassified ads?
      I am not revealing any more of my methods, such as how i contact clients, whether I use contracts, etc. that have nothing to do with the subdomain service I provide. I had one warrior who kept asking questions (he probably asked about 10 different questions) that I answered through the course of several days, and at the end of the day he just wanted free information and DID NOT even purchase any subdomains, so I stopped doing that.

      I may release a course later where I provide all my methods, but at this point I don't have a definite date.

      Hope you understand.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
        You know how people are, milk you for as much info as possible and then turn around and compete with you.

        I think you've revealed quite enough as it is. But for what its worth thanks for everything you have shared up to this point.

        Originally Posted by henrywolf2010 View Post

        I am not revealing any more of my methods, such as how i contact clients, whether I use contracts, etc. that have nothing to do with the subdomain service I provide. I had one warrior who kept asking questions (he probably asked about 10 different questions) that I answered through the course of several days, and at the end of the day he just wanted free information and DID NOT even purchase any subdomains, so I stopped doing that.

        I may release a course later where I provide all my methods, but at this point I don't have a definite date.

        Hope you understand.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dhira
        Originally Posted by henrywolf2010 View Post

        I am not revealing any more of my methods, such as how i contact clients, whether I use contracts, etc. that have nothing to do with the subdomain service I provide. I had one warrior who kept asking questions (he probably asked about 10 different questions) that I answered through the course of several days, and at the end of the day he just wanted free information and DID NOT even purchase any subdomains, so I stopped doing that.

        I may release a course later where I provide all my methods, but at this point I don't have a definite date.

        Hope you understand.
        Well i didnt ask you how you ranked your subdomain which is what i'm sure people are asking. I already know how to do that.
        I only asked about how you contact clients who are interested.
        If that's a big secret, then whatever, good for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author burnbebe
    One question, though... wouldn't this get you in trouble in the future?
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  • I just did a friends listing in google maps with a little seo and a blogger blog he gets the A spot for a few different terms.
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    • Profile picture of the author imageworx
      Originally Posted by ThePaidSurveysReview View Post

      I just did a friends listing in google maps with a little seo and a blogger blog he gets the A spot for a few different terms.
      Yeah Usually some backlinks and a little optimization will get you to A, especially if it's low to medium competition. Also if the listing and domain are aged a little that helps too.
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  • Profile picture of the author thai
    keyword sub-domain technique eh? interesting...I prefered keyword top domain name more -- google "Temecula Lawn" without quote.
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  • Profile picture of the author Xtrem3
    Ok, so what address and ph. number are you gonna use? can you use the one i give u?
    Also are those changeable on google places?

    Not sure about google places..
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    • Profile picture of the author AlphaWarrior
      Not sure about this. When I checked "dallasinjurylawyer.com-get-additional.info" on Yahoo siteexplorer, I found 176 backlinks. While the site is listed on G page one, perhaps it is not the subdomain, but the backlinks that got it there.
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      • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
        Originally Posted by AlphaWarrior View Post

        Not sure about this. When I checked "dallasinjurylawyer.com-get-additional.info" on Yahoo siteexplorer, I found 176 backlinks. While the site is listed on G page one, perhaps it is not the subdomain, but the backlinks that got it there.
        It was on page 1 with zero links, but I started creating backlinks as a preventive measure due to Google's update back in late September and the most recent one in late October. If the backlinks made the difference, this subdomain would have been ranked on the organic results as well, but it is only ranked only in Google Places, which is my focus anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by Xtrem3 View Post

      Ok, so what address and ph. number are you gonna use? can you use the one i give u?
      Also are those changeable on google places?

      Not sure about google places..
      I only provide a subdomain with the keyword of your choice that you will enter in the website section of your Google Places account. I do not create the Google Places account. Please refer to Subdomain Solutions for full details.
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  • Profile picture of the author Xtrem3
    So if i just put your domain on my G places account you think it will automatically be listed within the A-G box without any work? Or is there anything you do inside privately to get it listed?
    So you are basically charging me that because a keyword rich .com domain is not available for my niche?
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    • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
      Originally Posted by Xtrem3 View Post

      So if i just put your domain on my G places account you think it will automatically be listed within the A-G box without any work? Or is there anything you do inside privately to get it listed?
      So you are basically charging me that because a keyword rich .com domain is not available for my niche?
      "Or is there anything you do inside privately to get it listed?" Yes, what I do privately is 50% of my technique.

      "So you are basically charging me that because a keyword rich .com domain is not available for my niche?" That's exactly right. Having the keyword in the domain or subdomain is the other 50%
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      • Profile picture of the author Xtrem3
        Originally Posted by henrywolf2010 View Post

        "Or is there anything you do inside privately to get it listed?" Yes, what I do privately is 50% of my technique.

        "So you are basically charging me that because a keyword rich .com domain is not available for my niche?" That's exactly right. Having the keyword in the domain or subdomain is the other 50%
        Well, what if a .com domain IS available? :p
        Will you do your method on it for me for a lesser charge?
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        • Profile picture of the author henrywolf2010
          Originally Posted by Xtrem3 View Post

          Well, what if a .com domain IS available? :p
          Will you do your method on it for me for a lesser charge?
          Then you don't need a subdomain from me. Regarding doing the method for you, please refer to this link for further details Listing Optimization Service | Subdomain Solutions
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          • Profile picture of the author Xtrem3
            Originally Posted by henrywolf2010 View Post

            Then you don't need a subdomain from me. Regarding doing the method for you, please refer to this link for further details
            Well i dont get the point of the listing optimization service if i can just order the subdomain service and get it ranked for a lesser charge.. There is no guarantee anyways :confused:
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