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I am having success with my mobile design business to my local market. There is so much business in this niche...Thanks to the The Telemarketing Forum I have been able to get some strong momentum in this market by calling local business owners and sharing the value to them why they need and should have a mobile ready website...getting to meet with them has been at least for me easy...and once I walk in after they know the value for them having a mobile website and show them my one page mock-up of their mobile website they are sold.

I just wanted to briefly share a niche that is very easy to start up and getting positive response from business owners.

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Nice work Scott!

I have done all the research that needs to be done and I need to get out there and start selling.

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Mobile site are pumping locally ..
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Originally Posted by scotth View Post

I am having success with my mobile design business to my local market. There is so much business in this niche...Thanks to the The Telemarketing Forum I have been able to get some strong momentum in this market by calling local business owners and sharing the value to them why they need and should have a mobile ready website...getting to meet with them has been at least for me easy...and once I walk in after they know the value for them having a mobile website and show them my one page mock-up of their mobile website they are sold.

I just wanted to briefly share a niche that is very easy to start up and getting positive response from business owners.

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What is the niche? You never said.
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Originally Posted by jodib View Post

Excellent Stuff - Well done.

So what do you say to them on the phone that gets you in?
My pitch to the biz owner is...

"Hi my name is Scott I am a local business owner that helps businesses get new clients, I noticed you do not have a mobile ready site, you could be missing out new business...I like to meet with you for 10 mins and show you a one page mock-up of your site on a mobile phone and how this can bring you new business.

They will ask me a couple of questions..I usually get the appointment...there are business owners that blow me off..but thats part of cold calling.

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Originally Posted by Always-A-Warrior View Post

Mobile Ready Websites? I thought you had information about Mobile Ready Websites. Seems like sig promo.
Not a sig promo..just sharing my experience with a very untapped market.

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What is the nche? You never said.
The niche within offline marketing is Mobile Web Design..the market I go after with success is Restaurants and Jewelery Stores.

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What are you using to create the mobile sites? Has any one used the WordPress Mobile Pack?

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What are you using to create the mobile sites? Has any one used the WordPress Mobile Pack?
I use Quentin Browns script for creating mobile sites...very simple to use. I dont know about the WP mobile packs.

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how long does it take you to design the mobiles? what are you charging?

congrats on your success!
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how long does it take you to design the mobiles? what are you charging?

congrats on your success!
hey rolltide...if your experienced in HTML quick...I can create a mobile site using Quentin script in about 1 hour...thats a 4 page site. I am experimenting with different prices...I have been asking for $497 with free hosting for one year...I have also sold charging $397 plus $29.95 per month for hosting...if its a service based business like a restaurant that would have frequent updates I charge $47 to $97 per month. Plus I optimize the mobile site for mobile search.

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I have to buy Quentin's WSO. I have been researching and researching and I just got to go with what works.

Experienced in HTML? How experienced?

I know the basics, a lot of copy and paste really.

I got sidetracked by another idea, but really need to focus on one thing; mobile it is!

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Mobile marketing is only just beginning.

Lots of money to be made with it.

Keep em' coming.

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I have to buy Quentin's WSO. I have been researching and researching and I just got to go with what works.

Experienced in HTML? How experienced?

I know the basics, a lot of copy and paste really.

I got sidetracked by another idea, but really need to focus on one thing; mobile it is!
Hey Adam, Its very simple especially if you know basic HTML.

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Nice going there Scott and thanks for sharing your comments about mobile sites with us!

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Not a sig promo..just sharing my experience with a very untapped market.
I'm not doubting your knowledge. Would you share your mobile design business with us?. A few samples would be nice.

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I'm not doubting your knowledge. Would you share your mobile design business with us?. A few samples would be nice.
I am not sure if site addresses are allowed....if they are I will be more than pleased to show an example of mine.

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Sounds interesting, thanks for sharing.
So what kind of Mobile Website Software are you using, and are you able to show some examples of your sites ?
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I am also pre building and sending out an email before I call which has meant getting some without visiting.

http://speedie.mobi/email/

Here are some sample website we have built.

http://msconnex.org/quentin/?url=htt...entury21-dural

Simple template

http://msconnex.org/quentin/?url=http://goo.gl/Ge4j3

A bit more complex

http://msconnex.org/quentin/?url=http://goo.gl/OgB8e

Another customer

http://msconnex.org/quentin/?url=http://goo.gl/FfkWw

Some examples showing just the very tip of the iceberg.

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Nice examples Quentin...here is one of mine you can put it in this tester iphonetester.com
intelligentmediadistribution.com/ele-ela.html

I am designing these sites using Quentin script.

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Nice job Quentin. Are you using only .mobi or html templates?. I'm looking in custom mobile designs for clients.

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Quentin's WSO is awesome. Talk about overdelivering! If you are even thinking about mobile marketing, pick it up. His WSO inspired my entire mobile marketing website.

Quentin: Is there a way to use the php code used on the iphone tester page with the tester you provided us? I would like to have a potential client go to a page on my own website that show them their site on the tester.
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I must say that offering mobile marketing to local businesses is a very easy sale...b/c when they look at their .com site on a smart phone and then they see a one page mock up of a their site on a mobile phone there next question is how much!

I got all my education for mobile design here at the WF..I took action and magically made money..lol

Just Do It...whatever your desire is if you take consistent action you will see positive results every time!

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Scott, thanks for sharing your experiences with mobile. I like the look of Quentin's script. I have been using mobisitegalore as a quick and easy mobile site builder and HHpage for more high end sites.

Quentin's script after a quick look seems to do a good job.

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Scott, thanks for sharing your experiences with mobile. I like the look of Quentin's script. I have been using mobisitegalore as a quick and easy mobile site builder and HHpage for more high end sites.

Quentin's script after a quick look seems to do a good job.
Hi Robert,

the script is nice its very flexible and there is no links going any other vendor.

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This makes an easy in for providing a variety of related offers as well such as SMS services, QR codes, and grooming them for the incoming influx of NFC (near field technology).

Besides the major mobile phone mfrs, credit card processors and banks are actively promoting NFC or "e-wallet" technology. Some of your interactions with clients should be educating them on this emerging technology, which will make you the first one to think of when it arrives!

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I FINALLY bought Quentin's WSO! I have no idea why I waited this long. He has been very helpful as I had a problem, not his WSO, my fault for not knowing FTP. Scott offered help too. Great WSO though.

I plan to "hit the streets" Monday along with a friend of mine and start selling mobile sites. A HUGE market in Vegas!

As Myob said, it's our foot in the door for SMS, QR Codes and NFC.

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Hey - just wondering if anyone has taken into consideration the fact that a site like Weebly will automatically turn your website into a mobile ready site as well. So if you get the pro version (very cheap) you can create your clients website and mobile site in one shot but with a lot of extra value and with no weebly advertising on it.
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Originally Posted by ADukes81 View Post

I FINALLY bought Quentin's WSO! I have no idea why I waited this long. He has been very helpful as I had a problem, not his WSO, my fault for not knowing FTP. Scott offered help too. Great WSO though.

I plan to "hit the streets" Monday along with a friend of mine and start selling mobile sites. A HUGE market in Vegas!

As Myob said, it's our foot in the door for SMS, QR Codes and NFC.
Right on Adam your going to have success with mobile design sells and QR codes, their so much opportunity in the mobile offline niche in your local market.

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I am finding some very receptive business owners who use Gilt City, Groupon, Bloomspot, Living Social...my successful pitch for getting meetings and interested business owners.

"Hi my name is Scott I am a local business owner, I saw your offer on Gilt City today, but noticed you don't have a mobile website. I'm interested in sharing with you how a mobile website could enhance promotions like these..."

Opens the door for further conversation..I then proceed to tell the biz owner.."I will create a Home page of your current site for you that is mobile ready all I ask is for a 10 minute meeting to share the value of having a mobile ready site."

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When I go into these meetings I will create a home page for them which takes like 30 min at the most to do...so when I go to meet the client I first show their .com site on my iphone than I show the home page I designed for mobile..they are awe struck b/c of the huge difference...the thing is not many people are doing this its new and fresh to the local biz. owner. I live in San Francisco and you would think there would be lots of competition but I would have to say very very little...and no one I know of is going in showing them first before I even get the job how I can make their brand look better...its not to long after I have a new client...and then upsells...

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Are you charging for hosting/maintenance, or are you uploading it to their existing domain?

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When I go into these meetings I will create a home page for them which takes like 30 min at the most to do...so when I go to meet the client I first show their .com site on my iphone than I show the home page I designed for mobile..they are awe struck b/c of the huge difference...the thing is not many people are doing this its new and fresh to the local biz. owner. I live in San Francisco and you would think there would be lots of competition but I would have to say very very little...and no one I know of is going in showing them first before I even get the job how I can make their brand look better...its not to long after I have a new client...and then upsells...
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Are you charging for hosting/maintenance, or are you uploading it to their existing domain?
You can go to post #12 above and there you will see how I am charging..still experimenting..If they want me to upload it to their server than I charge $500 for the design and file transfer...have not have to do that yet.

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Thanks, sorry I must have missed that post initially!
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Thank goodness these aren't like the awful WAP websites I used to do for people in the early 2000s. They were horrid to do, simply horrid. And finding the hosting that could do them - a real pain the in the neck..
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I heard of Wap sites (wireless applications protocol) which cannot run on all web hosts...what a headache that would of been.

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It was SO horrible. You had to do loads of MIME stuff as well.

And the darn phones all supported it differently.

Still, I made a fair income selling combined HTML and WAP websites in the early 2000s. Enough to cover beer and guitar money I guess.
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Hi

For every body who is looking for a solution to create the mobile version of their or the client site and are not techie like myself, salespagedomination.com has a mobile website optimizer that is pretty easy to use.

I don't use it for that purpuse, I use the other scripts but after reading this post I will quickly make my pages mobile ready and those of a few clients.

Hope it helps
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For every body who is looking for a solution to create the mobile version of their or the client site and are not techie like myself, salespagedomination.com has a mobile website optimizer that is pretty easy to use.

I don't use it for that purpuse, I use the other scripts but after reading this post I will quickly make my pages mobile ready and those of a few clients.

Hope it helps
The script I use is very simple to master...With so much flexibility.

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Quentin: Is there a way to use the php code used on the iphone tester page with the tester you provided us? I would like to have a potential client go to a page on my own website that show them their site on the tester.
There is one on the templates page in the tutorials and look in your email as I sent one out the updated version this weekend.

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Hey - just wondering if anyone has taken into consideration the fact that a site like Weebly will automatically turn your website into a mobile ready site as well. So if you get the pro version (very cheap) you can create your clients website and mobile site in one shot but with a lot of extra value and with no weebly advertising on it.
Weebly, Wp Touch and many other that convert wordpress are good as long as they a very simple Wordpress sites.

If they are not then you have to create new pages etc so why not do it and optimize them for the search engines.

Thats the other thing with the converters is that you have very little control over traffic and SEO.

We like to develop them and customize for the business and add lots of on page SEO. We then put them in an http://m.company.com

This will eliminate any duplicate content and be picked up by mobile search engines. You wont get much of this with the duplicators and template sites.

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Originally Posted by Quentin View Post

Weebly, Wp Touch and many other that convert wordpress are good as long as they a very simple Wordpress sites.

If they are not then you have to create new pages etc so why not do it and optimize them for the search engines.

Thats the other thing with the converters is that you have very little control over traffic and SEO.

We like to develop them and customize for the business and add lots of on page SEO. We then put them in an http://m.company.com

This will eliminate any duplicate content and be picked up by mobile search engines. You wont get much of this with the duplicators and template sites.

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Nice Quentin...I did not know using m. made a difference thanks for that tip.

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Originally Posted by Quentin View Post

Weebly, Wp Touch and many other that convert wordpress are good as long as they a very simple Wordpress sites.

If they are not then you have to create new pages etc so why not do it and optimize them for the search engines.


Thats the other thing with the converters is that you have very little control over traffic and SEO.

We like to develop them and customize for the business and add lots of on page SEO. We then put them in an http://m.company.com

This will eliminate any duplicate content and be picked up by mobile search engines. You wont get much of this with the duplicators and template sites.

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I don't think the information I highlighted that you provide is accurate. WPtouch also works extremely well on more complex WordPress sites. I'm not sure what you're basing your information on.

It also allows for FULL control over traffic and SEO. Again, what are you basing your information on?
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what is a standard width of your mobile websites? 320px or smaller?


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Hi Moxil

Please understand I really like WPTouch and think it is an excellent system but not in all circumstances.

I am basing it on experience nothing else.

For example here is a regular site of one of our customers.

Vale Display Solutions

If you try and use WP Touch for most of their pages it looks horrible because there are tables, bits of flash etc.

And I certainly don't want to change their site in order for it to look good on a mobile site.

As for traffic etc I think for a business a site you have full control over will always outperform any generator. Again just my experience.

So here is a question for you.

If I want to look at my wptouch site on my pc not my phone what is the url to do this?

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Hey Thomas

Our shrink and fit system fits all phones no matter what the size.

Here is a sample you can look at on different resolutions.

Iphone mobile simulator emulator

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Thanks to Scott for the idea, and to Quentin, which made this possible. There really seems to be no competition at this time, yet we can "create" demand, aka show the value to the business owner when you combine QR Codes with mobile sites.

One thing I've added to the model above is offering a web PAGE on OUR site to the bizz owner. For this option, I charge $97 plus either $37/m for hosting and one change a month, or $57/m for one change a week.

It makes for another option for those who wouldn't take the full site but still want the benefit of a mobile presence. It also works for small businesses who don't really need a complete site. And once your template is done, which took me a while, it only takes 15 minutes per client afterward, and very low maintenance. And of course, they become clients in your sales funnel.
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Great point Jay!

It took me a long time to build the first one as I ran into a few problems (I didn't fully read the directions) I spoke with Quentin on Skype and he guided me through the last step and my mobile site is up and running.

What is on your one page design?

I assume
-Header
-Biz name
-Biz phone number
-Biz address
-Link to main site?

I plan to pick up the phone tomorrow and start setting up some appointments. My goal is to sell 2 of these this week.

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Hey Thomas

Our shrink and fit system fits all phones no matter what the size.

Here is a sample you can look at on different resolutions.

Iphone mobile simulator emulator

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You mean, it shrinks everything to any size by itself?
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