NEWBIE BROKERING

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HAS ANY NEWBIE HERE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH BROKERING SERVICES WITHOUT FACE TO FACE MEETINGS WITH BUSINESS OWNERS?:confused:
#offline marketing #brokering #newbie
  • Yes actually, I have made over $250k at it personally... on Alibaba.
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    • Can I live in your shoes for one day, damn!

      Dear God, throw me a frickin bone!
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    • $250k???? OMG... i hope i can beg infront of you .....
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  • Do you mean outsourcing or brokering?
  • You wish to share John???
  • Most people already know my story and are tired of hearing it.... I create brokering Deals between US manufacturers and overseas bulk buyers online, and make thousands in commissions per deal. A Student of mine recently made over 15k on a single deal, and another made a $1000 commission the other day...
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    • yes, iam interested
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  • Hi John,
    I'm in China,if i should find some Liquidators of China and sell something to other countries?and i haven't any experiences on how to find Liquidators of China,can you give me 2 cent?
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    • Well Airways,
      good thing about overeseas brokering besides being profitable-one deal $10,000 as opposed to $37.00 cpa deal is: no need for a official business license-just deal. On Alibaba-just go and register and get that cash! NO cpa accounts to get approved just find the deals and wheel and deal
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    • hey there a very good resource is called chinawholesalers.com also try to look up sellers on alibaba.com for your area of the world
    • Interestingly, yes ALOT of other countries wont buy from anyone BUT china practically. You could generate alot of interest.

      There is a guitar in america that cost $4,000 , and in America there are cheap copies all over the place... but they are just that "Cheap" but there is a CHINESE company that makes it EXACTLY like the $4,000 guitar, EXACT quality in every way... and they sell it for $400. intead of $4,000 Slash played one the first MEGA hit guns and roses album and tour, because he couldnt afford a real one, somehow he got ahold of this chinese version... Now the REAL company has made Slash a copy of his "chinese fake" isnt that interesting, and they sell copies of it for $4000 lol. Its the signature series, and slashs signature guitar is a chinese copy of a les paul, so now theres a signature series les paul thats a copy of a chinese les paul copy, and it sells for 4k!!!!

      Isnt that funny?
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  • I 've been reading warriorforum for a while now, been learning alot. Now decided to finally register.
  • Your skills must be amazingly superb John. It inspires me, really...
  • Yes it is true that john has great skills. But export deals on the overseas market are really out there for the takingq. Low hanging fruit because when you find buyer in right position and then right seller criteria -bam- you are on your way to 250000 just like john does!
  • Hey John, if you wouldnt mind shooting me an email so we could talk, I would love to have your help in begin brokering. My email is jtlucas11 at live.com and I hope to hear from you soon. I would PM you, but my post count hasn't quite got up there yet.
  • Wow I have a bit of experience as well my friend! But if you really want to talk to the Jedi master -just look in John's signature. I focus on the newbie aspect of brokering so that when you take your training wheels off you can be like john! Just a thought my friend!
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    • Bulk international trade isnt really that amazing of a feat. Its just unique to the WF.
  • you are quite right john-we focus on little oofline deals typically in im. But we all must look out for varied streams of money. The world is a big place as our skills increase in marketing-there is no way that we should sell ourselves short. btw i was not trying to step on your toes john-says the junior to the senior
  • It is very hard to be successful for new brokers in broking without meeting face to face with business owners. The broking business meeting provide information related to investment in broking, So it is important. Mostly, newbie be unsuccessful without this type meeting.
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    • Not true, as with all success blue prints, there are people who will succeed and others who dont... however brokering a deal isnt rocket science the rules never change... its simply finding someone with a BIG something to sell and hooking them up with someone who wants to buy something BIG...

      Example:

      Im a vintage guitar connoisseur, I know 52 Fender telecasters like the back of my hand... every detail... and if you come up to me talking about telecasters, and you arent a connoisseur Im gonna know it in 2 minutes...

      I cant tell the difference between a $500.00 suit and a $5000 one, but the guys who buy $5000 ones can spot a $500 on a mile a way. And if I was showing him an Armani for $500, he doesnt care if I know what I have or not... HE knows.

      So you dont have to be a tele pro to sell me one, I know what Im looking at.

      I want one so bad that if i dont know you from ADAM and you could prove you had a real 52 telecaster for sale at a Good deal... I would BUY IT!!

      Listen these things cost 100k nowadays... I dont care what you look like or where you are from... or if you can even strum a chord... Its okay "I know" what Im looking at... and if I expected YOU TO know, then I wouldnt be getting it for 5k. (Hint).

      So it doesn't matter to me how green you are, the greener the better... If you are telling me you can sell me a 52 Tele for $5000, and its the real deal... Im buyin it!

      Im on my way.

      I will probably buy from you again too, and I wont care about your level of experience if you are leading me to a deal that saves me $95,000. Heck I may even take you under my wing and teach you the ropes some... so you can keep finding me good deals.

      Last thought, to drive this home;

      You are reading the words of a man who was a newbie, just as in experienced as you... Only I didnt have a step by step guide... But I got an idea, and I contacted some manufacturers, and I got online and I started messing around and figured out how to create some buyers interest...

      and Im STILL not Einstein... But I have sold about 50 truckloads on line now, and I have my system and it works... and it has even worked for others here...

      Im not pumping my sig right now, I dont even make any money if someone were to get my program , it all goes to Kim right now... so the reason Im telling you this isn't to self promote... Its to0 tell you that you are looking at about the once ignorant-est newbie you ever met - and I sat down here at the WF and figured every bit of it out on my own...

      DONT EVER THINK THERE IS SOMETHING YOU CANT DO!

      Cant count the times I found out in my life that I went for years without having something, then later learn that the only reason was because I was too afraid to ask.
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  • I had to register just because of this thread. I live in Finland and the offline marketing game for online services is not doing too good. This is a country which takes pride in its high standing of worldwide technology surveys and studies and believe me, even the little mom and pop shops are well aware of SEO, social media and mobile marketing (Nokia is a Finnish company after all).

    Here's a few big dogs doing these services for those who need it and the rest, well they don't need it or are more than able to do it themselves, so the market for these services is pretty dry. I've seen it with my own eyes.

    This leads me to John Durham. I do not have a high enough post count to PM, so I'm asking the same thing as Luke Bishop. Any amount of information is appreciated because I am really looking for a line of work to devote myself into and make use of my marketing skills and background.

    Thanks a bunch and hello everyone BTW
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    • Hello everyone!

      I am so happy to have found this thread!!! I've been looking for something that deals with big ticket brokering for quite some time. Glad to have read all of the posts and learned the name, John Durham. I'm just under the halfway point to sending PMs and I would have sent you one if I could have. I would really appreciate some guidance from you in this realm, John. Please email me at csemprie@gmail.com. You're quite an inspiration.

      Thank you for paying it forward! Would love to be a student of yours. I love business and brokering deals so this is awesome

      Crystal
  • John, are you taking any new students? If so I would love to hear from you, thank you.
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    • it is not a hard game to get into-i originally got into the exports game after looking for big ticket items to push. Boy was i happy. the learning curve is not as steep as other offline endeavors and also the community of exporters is very helpful. why-the deals are never gonna be saturated-the world market is too big-and like the warrior from finland said-he might hear of something in the nordic countries that is of use to someone-he would be compensated for that.. in the future i would do him a favor etc
    • Im not actually , but what I AM doing, is introducing a new teacher to my forum so I can concentrate on Telemarketing stuff... A friend of mine who is the absolute Authority on these subjects and has made more money than anyone else I have personally ever met, and Im trying to talk him into coaching...

      I think I have a couple more reports left in me... But Im slowly moving back to just running my forum and my offline business... Also more "fundraising" work to do.

      After the next Million dollar bench Mark... Then I might do another Audio Series, maybe something with more of a motivational nature.
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  • first to see how powerful brokering can be warriors-go register on alibaba.com. Play with it-see how many buyers there are for the most mundane things! Oh the possibilities are endless. I didn't know that old cellphones could be bought so cheap and sold for a hefty profit-all from home no less sitting in my underwear
  • Brokering Overseas = Genius

    Never even thought of this, and I have thought of many things

    Might just give it a try.
  • Well chilling22 great first step. Next step is to zero in on possible sellers. How? First reverse engineer alibaba by looking for what people are looking to buy end mass. Quickly! This will be your target market. Complete this and get at least five good niches! Tommorow I will reveal another golden nugget Of exporting!
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    • I look forward to it. Thank you!
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  • Thanks for that great post John. When it comes to cold calling their are people that say they tried cold calling. They say it does not work or it is better to go out and visit the customer. I noticed talking to a few people that tried it and failed.
    Usually they said they made a few calls. When they continued to talk the first comments are nobody is interested. How ever after breaking down what they have done, they have called less then 20 or 30 people. They have not developed the confidence to continue on. So they quickly turn around and say it does not work.
    If the person were to do it consistenly like you described here, they would develop ways around the gate keeper and make the sale eventually. As I read here in this this thread and other areas of this forum it is all a numbers game.
    Since joining the Warrior Forum you were one of the first persons I saw that stood out here. Your insites are great value, you are one of the leaders here thanks for posting such valuable information. If other people would followed your free and timeless advice they would be more s
  • The answer to the question has to be yes. If a person has any skill on the phone, bingo! mission accomplished. I especially like Durham's posts as he highlights one very specific point: commitment. W/O it, you ain't never gonna do nuthin...

    Cold calling isn't hard, picking up the phone to do it is. Just my 2ยข...
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    • Is there a way to outsource the cold calling portion of this to professionals who have higher closing rates at this sort of thing? This that bad for business since you wouldn't be building personal relationships?
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  • I've been keeping quiet but i've done pretty well using John's template. It can take a lot of work to find sellers but as John says you're going to be rewarded handsomely. I have a VA that emails companies for me when I want new leads. He spent last week emailing companies for me. The number of leads I've got is 11 and he's emailed maybe 1000 companies. Now these leads have requested a call from me. I'll make a quick call and introduce myself as they already know roughly what I'm after. Then I should (with a bit of luck) find someone with excess stock that will email me the specifics.
    So for me I look at it like this $50 for my VA's weeks work plus a few hours of my time on the phone...maybe another hour of emailing = $10,000- $50,000.
    Hope this helps?

    Rich
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    • Beautiful. This is what Im talking about. I didnt tell you to do that in the report... but cmon, you gotta bring your common sense, Im a trainer not Merlin the Wizard.

      Whats this guy doing here?

      "Extrapolating" and using the ability God gave him to take the idea I laid out... and BUST HIS OWN MOVES with it... see I didnt have a plan or report either... I just did what Richard is doin and "tried stuff"...

      My only advice Richard is, dont let your leads get warm, you dont want all that work to go bad over one simple principle being over looked...(Striking while hot). However,in reality, for "suppliers" come to think of it, they may have a "little" more shelf life.

      Good stuff... the truth is that yes we inspire others with ideas, and we say "here's how I did it, you can do it too"... and you can , just like Richard is doing here... but While we bring the blueprints... you have to bring the common sense, and ability to make minor distinctions on your own... in other words just "Your thinking cAp" like Richard is...
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    • John do you offer any training on how to do the
      Import / Export Biz?

      Jack
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    Hey,

    I understand that there are deals on Alibaba which are great, I have stumbled on one or two by accident. There are some too good to be true, in fact for every deal you hear about that was a success there are literally hundreds that have been ripped off.

    My two small deals I asked for a brokerage fee combined with a deed of confidentiality to keep everything above board and legal. Using legal is important when dealing with other cultures that just plain think differently and it shows you mean business!!

    So, my actual time setting up was no more than two hours, I had no risk and was paid US1000/hour.

    Get that washing machine, time to rinse and repeat...

    My only caution is keep your eyes open and don't take on any risk.

    Dane
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    • Dane! Awesome.

      I disagree (respctfully) with the idea that there are 100 scams to one good deal... but yes there are scammers, the number may be a little higher becaue Alibaba is one of the top ranked sites in the world with over a million users and having 146 million dollars per "DAY" exchanging hands on it...

      So per capita I dont think there are more scammers than the average site, but it is comparable to ebay...

      Just like ebay though, some but "most" dont fall for it, like yourself who didnt, because the signs are usually pretty obvious.

      For instance I know Im dealing with a scammer if they are asking for a 20k load but they cant answer specific questions about their order.

      Lastly,

      If you always do busines, as I do via TT advance, or LC, there "virtually" is no way to be scammed.

      Yes I did take a check for $12,000 from a customer once that wasnt good, even worse it cleared my first bank and I had spent my profit by the time I found out the check was bad... now I dont take checks, after sitting down with the bank pres and getting counsil... and have had no problems since.

      Man it really makes my day to hear of your success!
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    good thread here john......been thinking of other ways to make money and was looking at doing something with china as i have relatives there.........how would i get started john?
  • @ Michael Le,

    If you use the search function here at WF and just put in Alibaba, all kinds of export stuff will come up.
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    • Good morning John

      How can we be on a list for notification if David decides to start coaching? or if you ever decide to take on apprentices?

      thanks
  • Well Im trying to move him one step at a time, by inviting him to teach some at the forum, just because I think he's a great teacher, and I think he is starting to see how enriching that can be...

    I cant commit for anyone, and I dont know if he will ever do any one on one coaching, however I do feel very honored to have him teaching exports at the forum. I guess if you sign up to the export forum you can get access to him, but Im not trying to sell anything by saying that.

    I really do think people could learn alot from him.

    I want to brag on him, but people tend to cry "promotion" and get my threads shut down...

    If you are member of TMF though you will recieve notifications of anything new going on. Again its hard to say this even though you are asking, because people like to get my threads shut down... understandable, Im just telling the truth but I can see how it could be construed.

    I can tell you that I dont personally make a dime for him teaching and neither does he at this point. Its more about expanding the scope of the teaching we offer at tmf.
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    • Thanks to Mr. John Durham,i was able to land the Interview i was hoping for with his good friend David W.

      I'm very happy about this as you can probably imagine,and i'm really looking forward to asking him some questions that will help me to be successful in the exports and liquidations market.

      I'll try and keep everyone updated on my progress with this endeavor.


      Thanks,

      Paul
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