BOB ROSS!!! Where's the damned thread?!?

believe me I wish it was still here but the mods don't like it. I don't know if they feel it's self promotional or what but they delete it fast unfortunately.

It sucks but I should probably just stay away from talking about it on here because for some reason they don't like it and I definitely don't want to be on bad terms with the mods.

I don't know why they don't like it...you laid out a plan anyone could follow...they could get the postcards printed anywhere...

I thought the thread was great. I only saw a small piece of the monster thread, but I caught most of the last one.

If you ever add another one down the road, I'd recommend turning off your signature. At least that way it's not so "self promotional" and would stand a chance to last.

Either way, I appreciated the other thread before it was gone. Definitely gave me another idea to offer to my local directory clients and help brand my directory at the same time.

Can we like vote to get the thread back or something?

I also saw the thread yesterday and got very exicted when I saw it. Went to type a long post, pressed the post button and the thread was gone. Just my luck.

WE NEED THAT DAMN THREAD BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(seriously)

I totally will remove my signature if that's the reason they took it down but I have no clue who to contact about it, I wish they would give me a reason or a warning or something.

The only mod I know of is Paul Myers and I had asked him why my original thread got locked and he said it could possibly be because it was sucking up too much air in the forum, however he wasn't the one who deleted it.

Sucking too much air up on the forum...huh?

Fascinating that a thread where intelligent people are actively engaged in discussing a topic about an actionable and profitable program is considered "sucking too much air" and "self promotional"

I don't get it, but I'd vote to have the thread come back too... democracy or not!

I know warrior forum has their rules, but A LOT of people LOVED the old thread. Part of the reason I stopped posting in it is many of the older members (like Bob) had to stop posting in it.

Obviously because there is a limit on how many posts you can make in 1 thread. I'm assuming the reason the second thread got deleted is because members can't make 2 threads about the same thing.

I can see how that rule would add quality to WF for the *most part*, but I do think there are exceptions.

A continuation of the postcard thread would allow Bob to post in it again, and other members as well (like myself). It got to a point where only newbies were allowed to post in the old thread which was stupid. That doesn't add quality to a forum it degrades it imo.

So when he made the new thread I thought "great we can start having quality discussions again", then sure enough its gone.

Its really just a thread (a helpful thread at that), whats the big deal? We have TONS of threads just wasting space on this forum so it only makes sense to let the best threads stay.

-Red

you may be taking of the warrior forum rules, keep calm down )

Hmmm browsing this Thread makes me curious to see the thread that was being talked about.

I would like to know more about this strategy. I wasnt here to see the old thread, but a new one would be great! Why not just create a new one?

http://9x12system.com/

You guys should just buy it and start your own REAL business, instead of wasting your time on here
and trying to dredge up gossip.

His asking price "might" seem a bit high to some folks.

However, I can 1000000000% Guarantee you the ROI you get back in terms of income and forum support is worth 10 times what he's asking. That's right. I would pay 10 times the price if I knew beforehand, the value that lies ahead in the forum and especially in terms of income generation.

You need to ask yourself is $77 a smart investment to make a REAL $5000 a month ?
And if you're industrious, you can make 2 and 3 times that per month as others already have.
The Bob Ross wso is one of the most valuable wso's you will find on this forum.

It works.
The support forum will amaze you with the additional twists and idea's, pushing the wso far beyond everyone's expectations.

I had some thoughts on implementing that here in Ireland - margins would be way, way down due to delivery and printing costs, and using certain services the largest acceptable leaflet is A5(!). Folding (allowed) detracts from the effect of the large card.

I'd also make sure to have a large Recycle logo somewhere and ensure it's printed on recycled - that'll help with a lot of folks.

Anyway, original idea was very interesting - hope the mods rethink and undelete it (and maybe merge this thread).

I really appreciate the support guys. It's so true that you don't need to buy any special software or guide or report to make the system work, you can take it infinite ways and make it a big moneymaker just by knowing the concept, which I wish was still posted on here of course.

This system seems to get better everyday and it's all due to so many of you applying your knowledge, creativity, and ideas toward it and sharing them. While it blows that I can't have a discussion thread on here about it, I appreciate all the emails, PMs, and Private Forum communication that have helped this grow into such a big monster.

I visit local businesses and close them on buying ad space on a giant postcard I'll be sending out in the mail to 10,000 local residents. I sell the spaces for $495 each and can fit 16 large ads on a 9"x12" postcard.

If you send them out using the post offices "every door direct" program, you don't need any list or permit, you just have them printed and you pick the carrier routes you want to saturate, and get them to the post office. This means that for $495 they get pretty much a GUARANTEED 100% exposure of their Advertisement, which only postcard marketing can do.

I've done 2 cards so far and had a tracked response of 13% on the first one and 22% response on the 2nd! I'm being 100% serious here and you'll see the same results if you get good offers on there for services that people frequently use. (Restaurants, oil changes, pizza, seasonal, etc...)

22%??!!!!!!!!!

13% on the your FIRST RUN?

Look I have NO IDEA what you are doing, but I think Bob himself doesn't even get that type of conversion.

Conversion on my first run was more like 2-3% if I remember correctly. Second run was just a bit better.

To get that type of response on your first run though.... I'm honestly not sure what to say. If it is true like you say, then you need to start giving some serious lessons on postcard copy design & how to target. =]

-Red

Yea, he was using figures across the whole card not per biz. I just had a pizza woman swear at me and kick me out of her store today though, telling me they "did something like that before" and got no response...

Yet... they advertise in the Monthly Mailer with an ad tucked so far in it's a wonder anyone sees it... so I'm imagining she doesn't have any idea what she is talking about, and also she wouldn't even let me talk really. I was pissed about it before, but now I find it funny.

? self promotion is a no no, but also follow me down the yellow brick road threads are usually squashed as well, so if some one is doing a follow me while you look over my shoulder type journal they are slammed from memory ? (for the reason they can turn into a novel ?)

I recall the thread but not sure if it took that direction or not ? and I may be wrong on that ruling ?

I vote for the thread to be back up as well. When I saw the updated version of the old thread, it actually MOTIVATED me to get this up and running. By the time I discovered the original, it had been months after it started, noticed it was locked and thought, oh, maybe this isn't such a good idea.

I have consulted a couple of my mentors about this program, and he has businesses that would jump on this in a New York Minute. He says to me "if you don't start this, I'm going to, you have 30 days to launch this before I jump in and own this town."

Since Bob cannot START the post, why doesn't someone else start it, and continue the conversation? Would that be against any of the rules? I am totally for a basic set of rules to make sure things are in order and does not get spammy, but when do you draw the line if SEVERAL people share the same interest in getting the post back?

I digress. I will be out prospecting and filling up my card. Once its full I will get my second one done and share my results on this thread if it is still here...

Cheers! Thank you again Bob!

Bob, Guys,
Anyone ever tried to strike an agreement with a business, or really 2 businesses to do this with, and here is the caveat. There is no money up front on their part, but they would have to pay on conversions. Thought about it just reading thru here. Hard to know how to make that one work and track it, but would be awesome to make 5k or so on that, but would have to be in lucrative market with good margins so that they would be willing to part with money for each visit/sale/appointment. I am kind of droning on here, but any ideas on tracking and who (which) in terms of business may be receptive and the margins to share.

Bob, have you ever had success promoting a comedy club or other night life stuff like this (besides bars, I am sure that's hot.)

I've gotten a LOT of threads with good ideas from the WF (including the Make $5,000 ... thread.) And having seen a number of them disappear, I use a Firefox plugin called print2pdf to make PDF copies and save them to my hard drive.

Marvin

Can someone please point me in a direction of what ever the thread you guys are talking about was about. You guys have to either give some clues for us to find this method or stop talking about it, cuz your killing me. lol. Is there an older thread of bob ross method somewhere?

do you have a link to the thread?

You have my vote. That was a quality thread. While I can see how some would see it as self promotion I do have to counter that the thread laid out everything to do. You didn't have to purchase anything.

It was one of the best threads on this forum I have ever read. Stuff like that was gold and deserved to be made into a sticky.

http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...onth-hero.html

Here is the thread if anyone didn't get it bookmarked or subscribed.

There is a cached version of the start of the thread on google - Make $5,000/month and be a hero *updated* - hope that helps.

Mar

I'm keen to get onto this fantastic idea. I'm in the uk and I really think that this is something that could boost local towns as well as make me a bit of money.

I got some quote for doing a run of 10,000 A4 sized flyers in 300gsm double sided UV laminated at £630
The cost to have these delivered to 10,000 homes would be £600 using a flyer distribution company,therefore making my total cost of £1230 (approx)
If I go with the 16 ads, that means the cost price per ad is £76.

However I'm struggling to think that an ad would sell for $500/£330 to a restaurant etc.. As this is a lot of money for a local business.

We have a small A5 local publication that is delivered to each household within the area each month and is filled with local businesses advertising their services from 1/12th page ads at £30 per issue, 1/4th page, 1/8th page, 1/2page at £187 to full page. The directory has around 15-20 pages and has become a recognised publication within the community. Typical businesses that advertise are small one man band plumbers, electrician, hairdressers, solicitors, cleaners, oven cleaning, garden services, 1 or 2 take aways. Restaurants do not seem to play much of a part in this publication and 70% of the ads taken are the small 1/12th sized ads at £30, with the larger ads typically being taken up by the solicitors.

What I am getting at here is that I do not see much being spent over £30-£50 by the local businesses.

Now I know that the large postcard idea is awesome and and is so 'in your face' that it will get seen, but I'm struggling with the pricing on this.

I also think that adding value to this can be done by putting on the postcard that these offers can be used on our 'mobile website' so the user always has the coupon ready to use, and also promote the 16 ads on our Facebook fan page (obviously I would need to set one up and get fans first) so the ads are being promoted to local Facebook users keen for a 'deal'

Would love to hear thoughts, ideas, suggestions on overcoming the above issue pricing issue or if you think that it really has value.

Yea, that was a great thread. Someone could have compiled it, edited it, and probably sold it as a cheap WSO or even on Amazon. then again they could have bought Bob's WSO which was also outstanding. Thanks Bob!

Aside from the archived thread for viewing...I would imagine you could restart the thread in the War Room...I don't see it being taken down in there.

...yes, one has to have a War Room Membership....but...seriously everyone should have one anyway. ( yes thats right...if you've purchased any WSO before even having a membership in the WarRoom...your doing internet marketing all wrong! )

Seriously doubt it was a technical issue.

They can just close a thread when it gets to big. This means people can still read.

folks, are you talking about this? (I think it was closed because it became too long)

Someone probably mentioned this already but this would work really well for your own business. Think of the response you would get if you had a service business that makes on average 100$ per customer or more. Use up that entire 9x12 card with one business and you will go across A LOT of peoples eyes.

I would imagine this is cheaper than a tv commercial (i dont know how much they are). The other good point is the card could lay on their kitchen counter for a while, or better, their fridge.

Im brainstorming on something I could advertise on one of these suckers all for myself.
(oh the greeeed)lol

Some good stuff in here. I sure wish that updated make 5000 per month hero thread was still around. I feel like I'm missing out on gold and the google cache doesn't have it anymore.

@Bob Ross - Your stuff is gold.

Regards

Los aka "New Fan Of Bob Ross"

I suspect a conspiracy of the cold callers with nefarious and devious plots to remove the Bob Ross thread.

You didn't miss anything - but the google cache was all that I could find at the time and I had hoped it would be better than not having either thread. My only slight concern is that you changed my gender, LOL - :O)

Mar - also known as Margaret

Because the original thread has been deleted; Bob Ross says that you have to make sure the advertisers aren't competing against each other. He also said that Liqour stores, Pizza restaurants and bakeries have the highest response.

Does this mean that you only can place 1 ad about these niches? Also, what are other niches that have a positive RIO?

And what are your experiences with business owners when you're talking about competition? For example, a Chinese restaurant isn't the same as an Italian, but a lot of people will chose for the best coupon instead of the type of restaurant.

I'd like to hear your thoughts about it .

For those looking for the original thread , here it is.
http://www.warriorforum.com/offline-...th-hero-3.html

Happy reading!