Penguin vs EMD ?

Will Edwards

13 years ago

Surely it should be Penguin v Emu

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It Is Me

13 years ago

Originally Posted by umeedngo

yes you are right for EMD updates but can you please tell me why this is happen to my website Rural and Community Development NGO, Punjab| Umeed ... because it doesn't contain the search term of my website.

Did you see drop in your website traffic through the Google?
Which were your primary keywords?

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iAmNameLess 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jenniferrichard

google announced that the low quality site does not rise in google because they have search terms in their domain name.

Wanna bet?

Search Belleville Defense Attorney and click on the EMD.
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- Danny Archer 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by iAmNameLess
  
  Wanna bet?
  
  Search Belleville Defense Attorney and click on the EMD.
  
  The reason they are still #1 is probably because if you look at 'Belleville Defense Attorney' stats in Google's Key Word Tool you will see a - next to all the monthly search traffic stats.... As this is phase 1 of the Google EMD update (soon to become a quarterly or even monthly occurrence) Google has nothing better to place above the result as IT believes really no-one is that interested in, or searching for 'Belleville Defense Attorney'.
  
  Next time round they might not be so lucky.
  
  If you create a site now with all the correct title and H tags with Geo references and other key ingredient and half a dozen good pages of content you would wipe them straight off #1 as soon as the EMD update revisits if not before.
  
  That said if they were genuine (and not just a Joomla login page) with a good linking profile and reasonable bounce rate they would keep their spot.
  
  I have found it relatively easy to rank and stick following these 10 steps:-
  
  1). Use WordPress (because it just works so much easier)
  2). A minimum of 6 well written relevant pages
  3). All tags correct with the keywords in the H1 and Title (it does make the difference) and unique titles and descriptions
  4). Install Yoast SEO plugin and USE IT! no need to pay for seopressor yoast is just as good.
  5). Home - Privacy - Disclaimer - Contact - + Content Pages
  6). Google + & Google Web-masters account & Google Analytics all set-up for the site
  7). Sitemap, sitemap, sitemap! Video as well if you have some.
  8). KML & GEO Site-Map (for local sites, knocks the competition out easier, go to geositemapgenerator for an free easy one)
  9). Create Business pages/accounts with the top 4 Social Media sites Twitter, Facebook, Linked-in, YouTube and then add Google+ for your Places listing etc - then go to Fiverr and get a promo video done for $5 and go to flixtime to create another one of your own. Add these to YouTube with your site URL at the start of the text and your address as displayed in G+ Places. Add your profiles to all the other social media accounts with the URL of your site and make a few friends and posts, just a couple to get things going
  10). Now (before you get your G+ PIN to activate it) go to as many GOOD on-line directories and register the same details with as much good info as possible.
  
  Using these basic 10 steps I have sites on within hours and ranking on page 1 within a week, generally Google takes about 4 to 6 weeks to fully trust you and after that your position will settle then you can work out if you need to start more linking and within 6 - 8 weeks we generally get P1 and stay there, total cost $30 and about a day's time setting up and completing all the details
  
  We do a little more optimization on the images and tags however nothing crazy or wild! Don't believe the hype
  
  Hope it helps! PM me if you need any of the links, I don't currently have enough post to post links in this message or if you need any more pointers.
  
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copystud 13 years ago

Originally Posted by jenniferrichard

google announced that the low quality site does not rise in google because they have search terms in their domain name.

That's only if the site fails based on other factors as well. If what you're suggesting is true then NYPD.com, or nytimes.com would be forced off the first page because people were searching for them in Google.

Value (or lack of value) is still the reason for the EMD's you're talking about losing their footing in the rankings like: worthless over-optimized content, low page count, valueless links, etc.
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bhushan@rancor

13 years ago

It is that if the Keyword are in our domain and site is not so well,content is not so fresh and unique and linking building is Not so proper then it will not be shown in Google.Named EMD.
I has some difference from Penguin update.

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mattlaclear

13 years ago

After doing a lot of checking we're still finding a lot of EMD's on page one. So it leads me to believe that the change is just an algorithm change rather than a penalty.

So it looks like Google is no longer giving extra credits to EMD's. Which may or may not be effecting your current ranking for your primary keyword.

For a pretty informative read on the topic check out this link: The Exact Match Domain Playbook: A Guide and Best Practices for EMDs | SEOmoz

As I see it you have three options if you have an emd:

1) Keep on keeping on like you have been. Every time you submit a new link it builds up your domain authority. Which of course will help it rank for other keywords. Eventually when the authority gets high enough you may even be able to rank for your primary keyword down the road.

2) Swap out the primary keyword you're trying to rank for on your index. This would be smart if there were in fact a penalty levied against your site for your keyword since it matches your domain. I don't think it is a penalty but I could be wrong.

3) Republish your existing site upon a brand new domain. This will involve transferring all of your existing content from the current domain/hosting server to the new domain/hosting server and configuring 301 redirections for pages on your current domain in order to prevent content duplication penalty. This is actually a much simpler process than it sounds, albeit somewhat time consuming.

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apkkadam 13 years ago

Originally Posted by umeedngo

Why EMD update of google punished my website( Rural and Community Development NGO, Punjab| Umeed) even it doesn't contain domain specific keyowrds .

If I were you I wouldn't share the domain details so openly. You are inviting unnecessary trouble from attackers.
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Matt121

13 years ago

Sure it's funny.. Unless you're one of the sites that got hit by the update :p

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LouieDiaz

13 years ago

Brace yourselves as google releases another algorithm update for TOP HEAVY this week. A lot of affiliate sites will surely get hit by this as it aims to take down sites loaded with ads and bearing less content.

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pasik

13 years ago

Originally Posted by LouieDiaz

Brace yourselves as google releases another algorithm update for TOP HEAVY this week. A lot of affiliate sites will surely get hit by this as it aims to take down sites loaded with ads and bearing less content.

Do you have some source for that information, or are you just guessing?

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Danny Archer 13 years ago

Originally Posted by pasik

Do you have some source for that information, or are you just guessing?

Follow Matt Cutts on Twitter

On the 27th Sept 2012 he tweeted :-

Matt Cutts ‏@mattcutts
New exact-match domain (EMD) algo affects 0.6% of English-US queries to a noticeable degree. Unrelated to Panda/Penguin.

on Oct 4th he tweeted :-

If you care about search, heads up! 65 search quality changes for August and September: goo.gl/NZQOc

insidesearch.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/search-quality-highlights-65-changes.html

Take a look at the list and look at the

[project "Other Ranking Components"]
[project "Page Quality"]

entries in particular.

There is probably more if you go further through his tweets....

Matt's the man at the top, he calls the shots on the updates

Follow him on twitter ‏@mattcutts and you normally get the heads up from him directly.

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LouieDiaz

13 years ago

There is a reference about it on searchenginewatch (although I've subscribed to Matt Cutts' twitter feed where I read the update).

The new algo update began rolling out on October 9.

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mathewbruce

13 years ago

EMD is the worst one than Penguin, if we are affected by penguin we can change our content and etc but if we are affected EMD we have to change the domain.

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Danny Archer 13 years ago

Originally Posted by mathewbruce

EMD is the worst one than Penguin, if we are affected by penguin we can change our content and etc but if we are affected EMD we have to change the domain.

Not at all Matthew you just need to do a good review of your on and off page factors, clean-up and build a bigger and better profile off-page.

First check who's linking to you at opensiteexplorer.org or something similar and see if you have a load of poor links back at you, then look at improving on what you have out there and gaining more quality off-page real-estate.

Also review your on-page code, if its the website in your profile there is over 30 H1 tags on the home page this might not help you although it's definitely not the only thing by far that will impact your ranking there are many other things to consider.
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