Email Marketing For SEO Purposes...

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Hi Guys,

Lately, I've been tinkering with a possible merger of SEO and (of all things) email marketing.

I'd love to share some results I've been receiving lately with a few clients, that have led me to believe email marketing can (if it is a form of marketing used by a company that is also utilizing SEO) do a great deal of good for the company's website SERs.

There is a method to the madness though.

We all know that Google uses the time an individual webpage visitor uses on a page as an increasingly important metric for determining the relevance of a page.

And so when a page enjoys a sudden influx of visitors from an email list that is blasted with a "teaser copy" of what they can expect to learn from an article (preferably one with a YouTube video version of the article on top), it pays attention.

For example, let's say my client (under my lovingly watchful *cough* ball-buster *cough cough* guidance) created an article on the merits of NOT following the ketogenic diet to lose weight, and the advantages of the "starchavour alternative" to ketogenic diets, then posts it on a blog.

The email I would create would go something like this:

"NEW ARTICLE: (Warning, only for the open-minded; it will shock you)

Here's what you'll learn:

===> Why you do NOT need to go on a ketogenic diet to lose weight
===> Why the weight you DO lose on the diet includes a good portion of your muscles
===> The shocking experiments done on two Siamese twins (you'll never look at FAT the same way again)
===> The inflammation factor, and what the Paleo crowd are not telling you

Here's the link: http://www.insertwhateverlinkyouneed.com/blog/post123423"

(The link is imaginary).

So here's what I've done here:

(1) I did NOT give away the "tips" or the material in the email itself.
(2) Instead, I told my email subscribers in advance what they can expect if they click on the link and read the article

In advance, I incentivized their stay on the page, reading everything to the last letter.

And when that page has share plug-ins such as LoveClaw (now called "Wookle") for viral sharing, this method does AMAZING THINGS for a client's search engine rankings.

Amazing things.

So if you have an SEO client that utilizes email marketing as well, draw their attention to this post, and see if they are open to the idea.

Have fun!

Armaan Shiraz
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  • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
    Just one guy's opinion, but there are a couple of fallacies in this theory. First, is the contention that Google uses time on site and/or bounce rates as a ranking metric. Google has said time after time that they do not. There are several reasons for this, but the most significant one is that their algorithm cannot tell whether you found the answer (or part of the answer) or not just because of the amount of time you spent on a page. Even part of an answer is a positive user result. Likewise, spending several minutes trying to find an answer on a page and not being successful can happen which is a negative user experience. A search engine does not know what really happened based upon your time on a page. The other significant reason Google says they do not use time on site, pages viewed or bounce rate is that a very small percentage of websites have Google Analytics installed and they would not jeopardize their search results based on only sites that have GA installed.

    The second problem with this is that if people are clicking a link in an Email that takes them to your website, they did not use a search engine at all. Therefore, there would be no bounce rate statistics from a search engine.

    That said, Google does use view time on YouTube videos as a metric, so if you have an Email that directs people to a video, that video might rank higher based upon the amount of time that people spend watching it before they bounce. A link from that video to a web page is no-followed, so that won't help a website page rank, but that link may be shared in various places that result in a link, which would help a page rank better.

    That said, if the people you are sharing a link with happen to have websites of their own that decide to link to your page, that will definitely help with SEO, but that is a big IF in most niches.

    I have no problem with the concept of Email marketing - it is one of the best ways of driving traffic and profits. I'm just skeptical that it can cause a page rank higher, in and of itself. Like I said, just one guy's opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author Armaan Shiraz
      Thanks Dave, I appreciate your input. You will note, that I am a copywriter (and specialize in paid traffic), not SEO. But I just could not help but take note of the effect of this approach on the search result ranks of the webpages promoted in the emails...

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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    One point to add to Dave's comment. Not only is using time on a webpage for rankings a problem as Dave pointed out, but in many cases, Google has no idea how long users spent on a page. Not every site is using Google Analytics. Not every user is using Chrome. So they cannot even collect all the data if they did want to use it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Armaan Shiraz
    Interesting, Mike. Thanks for that...

    You got me wondering now: Could it be the on-page engagement, liking, sharing, commenting (I incentivize that too, a la "best comment wins x, y, z") that is helping the pages search results?
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by Armaan Shiraz View Post

      Interesting, Mike. Thanks for that...

      You got me wondering now: Could it be the on-page engagement, liking, sharing, commenting (I incentivize that too, a la "best comment wins x, y, z") that is helping the pages search results?
      My guess would be zero competition.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by Armaan Shiraz View Post

      Interesting, Mike. Thanks for that...

      You got me wondering now: Could it be the on-page engagement, liking, sharing, commenting (I incentivize that too, a la "best comment wins x, y, z") that is helping the pages search results?

      because it IS helping. What some in this thread have done is shot down the internal workings you alluded to but saying Google doesn't track time spent on site doesn't equate to it does not help in SEO. It just might be less direct.

      Truth is anything that increases your visibility and the visibility of all your content helps in SEO. If people stay longer read more they are more likely to share and sharing can lead to links etc. Theres a social graph in organic links that can't often be tracked down. You get a link from a blogger in Nebraska but how did he even hear about you? social referrals.

      plus Google likes to be coy and their business is to not tell us what makes pages rank. They would be crazy not to be extracting data from chrome (doesn't matter beans that everyone doesn't use it - polling only takes a percentage of people). Now if you tell them do you track time spent on a site they can say no but they are not going to tell you that they extract data from Chrome on usability and time might be in there somewhere.

      So when its all said and done if its working for you for SEO - roll with it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Armaan Shiraz
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        because it IS helping. What some in this thread have done is shot down the internal workings you alluded to but saying Google doesn't track time spent on site doesn't equate to it does not help in SEO. It just might be less direct.

        Truth is anything that increases your visibility and the visibility of all your content helps in SEO. If people stay longer read more they are more likely to share and sharing can lead to links etc. Theres a social graph in organic links that can't often be tracked down. You get a link from a blogger in Nebraska but how did he even hear about you? social referrals.

        plus Google likes to be coy and their business is to not tell us what makes pages rank. They would be crazy not to be extracting data from chrome (doesn't matter beans that everyone doesn't use it - polling only takes a percentage of people). Now if you tell them do you track time spent on a site they can say no but they are not going to tell you that they extract data from Chrome on usability and time might be in there somewhere.

        So when its all said and done if its working for you for SEO - roll with it.
        Thanks for your helpful comment, Mike. Kudos, and thanks. Again, I am a copywriter, and manage paid traffic accounts. SEO is really off-domain for me, but I was relaying the results I received. In the course of doing so, I learned something new from this thread!

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  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    Originally Posted by Armaan Shiraz View Post


    We all know that Google uses the time an individual webpage visitor uses on a page as an increasingly important metric for determining the relevance of a page.
    Who is we? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

    If "we" all know that, then "we" are a bunch of fools.

    The whole idea is lunacy, not to mention ridiculous.

    Have fun? With what? That mouse?

    Where do you people come from?

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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      Who is we? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

      If "we" all know that, then "we" are a bunch of fools.

      The whole idea is lunacy, not to mention ridiculous.

      Have fun? With what? That mouse?

      Where do you people come from?

      Paul
      Dude seriously- try decaf
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      • Profile picture of the author Armaan Shiraz
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Dude seriously- try decaf
        Easy on him Mike. With the number of infractions he has for insulting members, it's clear his comments are just best left to rot unanswered until they decompose.
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