My Experience with Micro Niche Finder & Xfactor course

15 years ago

Great Post. It all comes down to taking action. Think of John Xfactor course as a recipe and follow it exactly when starting out.

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Rhett

15 years ago

I am with you completely--I've followed Xfactor's blueprint for Adsense (the initial post here on Warrior forum; not the course) and combined some tips from things suggested in the War Room, and I've been simply blown away at the ease of this, as well as how lucrative it really is.

Keep up the good work!

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internetmarketer99

15 years ago

Great work, great post!

Many people get stuck sweating the details to the point of inaction. In many respects, it's quicker, and certainly more productive, to "do, then improve" rather than stall waiting for everything to be answered, confirmed, etc.

I've followed John's threads from the original one, and 'pre-purchased' the book the moment it was available.

Though I have my own methods, preferred tools, etc., everything I read from John was helpful, and accurate.

I created about 10 sites following John's outline. 8 of 10 are performing as well as, or better than expected.

Keep up your good work, continue moving forward. As you get a sense of what works, etc., focus your energy there; as you see things that don't give you the results you want, tweak them or re-focus those efforts elsewhere.

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eqalias

15 years ago

I have tried his technique on 2 test sites, but I think I made a similar error in that I picked a very competitive keyword. It's starting to sound like I may have to invest in micro niche finder.

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XFactor

15 years ago

Originally Posted by eqalias

I have tried his technique on 2 test sites, but I think I made a similar error in that I picked a very competitive keyword. It's starting to sound like I may have to invest in micro niche finder.

Unless you "tested" your sites for at least a month, then I would
not consider it a worthwhile endeavor.

Many of my sites take a least a month to start maturing. Sure I
get lucky right out of the gate, but this is not the norm.

- John

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eqalias

15 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

Unless you "tested" your sites for at least a month, then I would
not consider it a worthwhile endeavor.

Many of my sites take a least a month to start maturing. Sure I
get lucky right out of the gate, but this is not the norm.

- John

And dont get me wrong, I'm not knocking the technique. The website I've based on my other keyword (100 searches per day, 127,000 competitors) already places 8th after two weeks, so I can see the potential. I'm just starting to think micro niche finder may be worth it just to save time looking for keywords so I have more time to write write write.

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eqalias 15 years ago

Originally Posted by eqalias

The website I've based on my other keyword (100 searches per day, 127,000 competitors) already places 8th after two weeks, so I can see the potential.

Wow I just checked and I'm now number one for my keyword (that was quick). I have a feeling it's part of the 'Google dance' I hear about but it's nice to see results.
I'm beginning to think XFactor may not have been full of it.
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- ladyfoster 15 years ago
  
  I have been following the Xfactor post as well. I do have a suggestion that may be helpful to those that have not purchased mnf as of yet. I have had the tool for a year now and love it.
  
  though i plan to purchase the new version of keyword elite soon.
  
  what you can do is use the google keyword tool choose your keyword. put the keyword in quotes in google search after you have determined that the keyword has 10k or less competing sites. then to the intitle results... i like to keep that competion unter 1k sites for intitle. then I do a quick check for the top 4 sites on google search without the quotes and and if there are search results that are PR5 are higher i dont choose that keyword if they have a 4 i dont use it if that particular site has the keyphrase in the title.
  
  i have done some testing with this method and started a site with that search formula and ranking on the first page within 24 hours. Of course your results may be different depending on your results with number of competing sites.
  
  please dont ask me alot of questions about this because I dont come that often. if i spend too much time in the forums I dont get any work done. Im earning most of my income now with amazon and now trying to add adsense as a consistent stream of income.
  
  even though I have made notes from Johns xfactor posts, I plan to purchase his blueprint later this month.
  
  Blessings to all and I gurantee you if you take action you are 99 percent there already
  
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  joe0074 15 years ago
  
  How do we know whether each website on the first page is PR4 or PR5 ?
  Is there any tool we can use to check it?
  
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  ladyfoster 15 years ago
  
  yes down load the firefox free SEO tool. you can check the PR of each site Ill look for the link
  
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  ladyfoster 15 years ago
  
  try seo tools dot seobook dot com backslash firefox i dont have enough post to do a hyperlink
  
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  joe0074 15 years ago
  
  Thanks ladyfoster.
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John Hixson 15 years ago

Cheers for that! Not purchased the course but it was xfactors thread that has inspired me to follow the same blueprint.

In the last 2 weeks I have set up 3 sites and am slowly breakifn teh first page with them - each day seems to see my rank go up one or two placings, hopefully this will continue and they will be looking at #1 in another week or so.

Even without that they are each earning about $2 a day. Not much but they are almost brand new and so I find that encouraging. I have also bought another 2 domains to start working on over the next few days.

Your point (and one xfactor bangs on about in his own thread) about not sweating the small stuff is a good one. i procrastinated for a few weeks, worrying about this and that - but having dived in I can assure anyone that it is nowhere near as difficult as you might think to get up and running. Obviously I am not 'there' yet, having just started my journey - but the results are certainly encouraging.

y advice to anyone considering it is buy a few domains, whack up some sites and get running with it. what's the worst that can happen? you lose $21 on domain names and a few days work?

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JMartin 15 years ago

Originally Posted by XFactor

Unless you "tested" your sites for at least a month, then I would
not consider it a worthwhile endeavor.

That's why so many people end up failing. They built 1 site for whatever (Adsense, affiliate, etc), they they sit around and wait for results. Meanwhile valuable time passes.

It's like the guy who submits 1 article, waits for a bit, wonders why he isn't a millionaire yet and then concludes that article submissions are 100% worthless.

To the OP, grats on your success.

Kind of funny how we have all these ebooks and $500 courses when just 2 threads here (xfactor's and internetmarketer99's) give you everything you need to get going for f-r-e-e.
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Hackbridge

15 years ago

Originally Posted by eqalias

I have tried his technique on 2 test sites, but I think I made a similar error in that I picked a very competitive keyword. It's starting to sound like I may have to invest in micro niche finder.

I think the price is up to $97 but it has recently been upgraded. It just gets better and better!

My problem is this. I think that I have spent $100s on tools but the truth is, if you don't take action it doesn't mean a damn thing!

I need to find every single post by Xfactor now, as I would love to have the success posted by the OP. I also need to take action

Thanks for sharing

Brian

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latinoman231982

15 years ago

Thanks guys for feedback. I have had alot of messages regarding my article strategy. Just though I would share that with you guys. Primarily I submit ALL my articles to Ezine. Once published with ezine I then rewrite those articles for GOARTICLES. From go articles I rewrite those articles and scatter them through lesser known article directories.

My daily routine is up at 3am, write 30-40 articles just before lunch and have them submitted. The rest of the day till 6pm i do some comment backlinks as well as add new content to my site.

I like to focus on 2 sites a week. My goal is to get each and every site earning a minimum of 4 dollars daily. Its a nice suprise when they earn more than expected. I dont really have a set schedule, I feel johns advice to go with the flow +internetmarketer 99 thread on consistency have helped me to keep plugging on.

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mikengo

15 years ago

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

My daily routine is up at 3am, write 30-40 articles just before lunch and have them submitted. The rest of the day till 6pm i do some comment backlinks as well as add new content to my site.

Wow, am I reading this right? Work from 3am to 6pm. That's 15 hours per day???

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NicheCowboy

15 years ago

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

Thanks guys for feedback. I have had alot of messages regarding my article strategy. Just though I would share that with you guys. Primarily I submit ALL my articles to Ezine. Once published with ezine I then rewrite those articles for GOARTICLES. From go articles I rewrite those articles and scatter them through lesser known article directories.

My daily routine is up at 3am, write 30-40 articles just before lunch and have them submitted. The rest of the day till 6pm i do some comment backlinks as well as add new content to my site.

I like to focus on 2 sites a week. My goal is to get each and every site earning a minimum of 4 dollars daily. Its a nice suprise when they earn more than expected. I dont really have a set schedule, I feel johns advice to go with the flow +internetmarketer 99 thread on consistency have helped me to keep plugging on.

30-40 articles before lunch? geez dude, the only thing that may slow you down is Kryptonite.

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mrtrance

15 years ago

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

Thanks guys for feedback. I have had alot of messages regarding my article strategy. Just though I would share that with you guys. Primarily I submit ALL my articles to Ezine. Once published with ezine I then rewrite those articles for GOARTICLES. From go articles I rewrite those articles and scatter them through lesser known article directories.

My daily routine is up at 3am, write 30-40 articles just before lunch and have them submitted. The rest of the day till 6pm i do some comment backlinks as well as add new content to my site.

I like to focus on 2 sites a week. My goal is to get each and every site earning a minimum of 4 dollars daily. Its a nice suprise when they earn more than expected. I dont really have a set schedule, I feel johns advice to go with the flow +internetmarketer 99 thread on consistency have helped me to keep plugging on.

Does it make a difference if we just submit the same Ezine article to other directories (GoArticles, etc..) without modifying it? Will those backlinks account or should we rewrite them every time we resubmit to another article directory?

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curious52

15 years ago

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

Thanks guys for feedback. I have had alot of messages regarding my article strategy. Just though I would share that with you guys. Primarily I submit ALL my articles to Ezine. Once published with ezine I then rewrite those articles for GOARTICLES. From go articles I rewrite those articles and scatter them through lesser known article directories.

My daily routine is up at 3am, write 30-40 articles just before lunch and have them submitted. The rest of the day till 6pm i do some comment backlinks as well as add new content to my site.

I like to focus on 2 sites a week. My goal is to get each and every site earning a minimum of 4 dollars daily. Its a nice suprise when they earn more than expected. I dont really have a set schedule, I feel johns advice to go with the flow +internetmarketer 99 thread on consistency have helped me to keep plugging on.

Do you use any article spinning software to create your articles? I've just hear of this and wondered if it was worth it. Seems like it takes more time to "spin" than a quick rewrite the old fashioned way. Advice?

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

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My daily routine is up at 3am, write 30-40 articles just before lunch and have them submitted. The rest of the day till 6pm i do some comment backlinks as well as add new content to my site.

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DavidJohnny

15 years ago

Sachibhat,

Just add a word to the domain name. For example, if you keyword is "haloreachforxbox" and you can't get haloreachforxbox.com, try something like this:

haloreachforxboxreview.com
haloreachforxboxtips.com
haloreachforxboxdiscount.com

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sachibhat

15 years ago

Originally Posted by DavidJohnny

Sachibhat,

Just add a word to the domain name. For example, if you keyword is "haloreachforxbox" and you can't get haloreachforxbox.com, try something like this:

haloreachforxboxreview.com
haloreachforxboxtips.com
haloreachforxboxdiscount.com

should i go for the niche based on the seo competition stats of the first 10 websites

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Kael41

15 years ago

You know, I tried that for a while on roughly 8 websites and for the most part they all didn't do as well as a direct keyword name (search) domain as one that had something tacked onto it. Others may have different results, but i tend to stick with something i know people are searching for.

David

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Sachibhat,

Just add a word to the domain name. For example, if you keyword is "haloreachforxbox" and you can't get haloreachforxbox.com, try something like this:

haloreachforxboxreview.com
haloreachforxboxtips.com
haloreachforxboxdiscount.com

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XFactor

15 years ago

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

hi guys

I just thought I would share my experience using Xfactors guide on making an income from adsense.

I first started implementing his methods from the original thread before the purchase of his course. Like many, I used my initiative and gained all the information i needed to start my first adsense site.

I have now completed 5 sites, and at this moment in time I am bringing in between 20 - 35 dollars daily. Im so baffled by members on this forum as they seem to ask irrelevant questions, and focus on small details that are not important. I am a COMPLETE noobie, I had just followed his course step by step and didnt worry about these small things that everyone is going on about.

My daily routine from day one involved creating a site with 4 keywords, submitting 3 articles for each keyword then moving on to my next site. Nothing else, nothing more.The one thing Ive learnt is that action is the most important step to take if you want to accomplish anything.

When I first started implementing Johns advice i mistakingly picked a niche that had over 250 SOC and 40,000 competing sites. At the time when I followed the guide i didnt have access to micro nichefinder, so was solely relying on google keyword. It wasn't till after the purchase of micro niche finder that i realised I had picked a keyword which would be hard to compete for.

Surprisingly, at this moment in time for the past 2 months this website with this keyword in the domain is ranking number 5 in google and brings me 30-40 unique visitor daily. I only have 35 articles submitted to this site. I guess the point im trying to make is that you shouldn't just rely on the numbers given to you, you should do some research before hand when using micro niche finder.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Anyways just thought i would share my experience so far and just want to say a great big thankyou to john. You have changed my life around :-)

Wow, I'm speechless to read such a profound unsolicited post about
the work you put in based on my own blueprint.

Your post had some very good points about people worrying about
many small details.

I get tons of emails daily from customers asking so many questions that
there are no real answers for, nor can there be a scientific formula for
other questions.

It's all about action - diving into the deep waters.

- John

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ladyfoster

15 years ago

John I just purchased you course with money that i really dont have because i too believe it is possible to make 10k or more per month from adsense. though i have not made it yet.... righ tnow i make on average about $2 a day. I think your course will take me to a new level.

my husband and children were recently in a car accident. so I am really looking to make some income to pay off some debt.

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blogsy

15 years ago

Originally Posted by ladyfoster

John I just purchased you course with money that i really dont have because i too believe it is possible to make 10k or more per month from adsense. though i have not made it yet.... righ tnow i make on average about $2 a day. I think your course will take me to a new level.

my husband and children were recently in a car accident. so I am really looking to make some income to pay off some debt.

The key to making John's course work is to treat it like a job or small business, it really does require that kind of commitment to make a decent income from any kind of internet method. Do it hard for 1 year and then you can back of and just concentrate on maintaining your sites positions in the serps. Most fail because they can't maintain the level of article (link) promotion the system requires to make it succeed. You will notice whenever people talk about their success they also talk about their high article out put, that was also the case for John (Xfactor) the method creator.

Don't be completely put of by highly competitive niches, one of my sites is "quit smoking" I only submitted 20 articles to EZA, that was it, it only did around $35.00 a month on adsense, so I put an affiliate product (no adsense) on the first page and it now brings in around $200.00 a month plus the adsense. So in certain niches if the adsense income is low, consider an affiliate product if appropriate.

I hope your husband and your children are doing ok, all the best with your adsense sites, I'm sure you will be successful.

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ladyfoster

15 years ago

Originally Posted by blogsy

The key to making John's course work is to treat it like a job or small business, it really does require that kind of commitment to make a decent income from any kind of internet method. Do it hard for 1 year and then you can back of and just concentrate on maintaining your sites positions in the serps. Most fail because they can't maintain the level of article (link) promotion the system requires to make it succeed. You will notice whenever people talk about their success they also talk about their high article out put, that was also the case for John (Xfactor) the method creator.

Don't be completely put of by highly competitive niches, one of my sites is "quit smoking" I only submitted 20 articles to EZA, that was it, it only did around $35.00 a month on adsense, so I put an affiliate product (no adsense) on the first page and it now brings in around $200.00 a month plus the adsense. So in certain niches if the adsense income is low, consider an affiliate product if appropriate.

I hope your husband and your children are doing ok, all the best with your adsense sites, I'm sure you will be successful.

Thanks Blogsy, I intend to do just that. I was up til after 1am this morning duplicating Johns template in homestead builder becuase i wanted to try a static site this time instead of a wordpress blog. once i figure out how to add a site map to homestead the rest should be easy.

Bottom line, failure is not an option for me. I have studying trying and researching for a year now in IM and finally getting to the point where I am seeing a little money come in. Now I want to increase in dramatically to pay off debt and eventually replace my job income.

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kevinpotts

15 years ago

The important thing is to take action set your mind in what you are about to do.

So if it's working fr you great give us any feedback as the months keep on going to see if it still works for you, if it doesn't you can also share what happened.

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ayolov

15 years ago

I loved the simplicity of it;

Most techniques out here are elaborate and confusing, xfactor allowed people to grow and expand from a very basic formula, he has helped a great number of people understand adsense.

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latinoman231982

15 years ago

I think another point mentioned by john that is very important is your personal mindset. I now truly believe that I CAN rank everysite and earn money. There is no try, but only do.

It's so bloody easy I almost kick myself everyday. That feeling I get when clicks start coming through just encourages me more to go full steam ahead.

As john stated in his thread and course, I feel the below phrase by the late Bruce Lee resonates well with anything you try to accomplish.

"Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend."

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Tess D 13 years ago

"Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless - like water. Now you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup, you put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, you put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.""

Is that from "Siddartha"? If not, it should be!
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Biggy Fat

15 years ago

Alright, this is an inspiration to MANY. But one thing man: What exact template are you using? John's template (either your recreation of it or his that he offers in the members area), the Wordpress version that Kael offers, or another Wordpress theme? Hit me up.

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John Hixson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Biggy Fat

Alright, this is an inspiration to MANY. But one thing man: What exact template are you using? John's template (either your recreation of it or his that he offers in the members area), the Wordpress version that Kael offers, or another Wordpress theme? Hit me up.

In all 3 of mine my CTR is roughly around the 6% mark and they are very basic, ugly templates that have a thin band at the top with the domain, a slightly smaller band with the few pages (usually 5) linked to.

All 3 use different templates but I have pretty much the same results.

The theme with a slightly higher CTR at the moment is Unembellished 2.0 (not sure where I downloaded it from I'm afraid) with the grpahic in the top left deleted (the only change I make).

But again that is just based on a couple of weeks and just shy of a thousand visitors - hopefully someone with more experience can post their best templates too.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Biggy Fat

Alright, this is an inspiration to MANY. But one thing man: What exact template are you using? John's template (either your recreation of it or his that he offers in the members area), the Wordpress version that Kael offers, or another Wordpress theme? Hit me up.

what are you talking about? I don't understand a word of your question.

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Kelly Verge

15 years ago

The real gold in XFactor's thread isn't the core of the method. It's the backlinking.

All of the sites I've created have spiked mid-first page within a few days then dropped back into the hundreds for a couple of weeks. So far the two that are at the 4-week mark have jumped back to the first page and are creeping up.

I'm pretty sure the ongoing trickle of backlinks will keep most of these sites from being sandboxed - if not completely, I doubt that'll be sandboxed for long.

I completely agree with the OP. Take action without worrying about the exact details. Otherwise, by the time you actually get started you'll be to discouraged to make any real continuing effort. If you just take action, the first trickle of Adsense income will spur you to continue.

For the record, I have my own custom WP theme following the rough guidelines in the thread. I'm averaging 40% clickthrough for SE traffic.

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John Hixson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kelly Verge

The real gold in XFactor's thread isn't the core of the method. It's the backlinking.

All of the sites I've created have spiked mid-first page within a few days then dropped back into the hundreds for a couple of weeks. So far the two that are at the 4-week mark have jumped back to the first page and are creeping up.

I'm pretty sure the ongoing trickle of backlinks will keep most of these sites from being sandboxed - if not completely, I doubt that'll be sandboxed for long.

I completely agree with the OP. Take action without worrying about the exact details. Otherwise, by the time you actually get started you'll be to discouraged to make any real continuing effort. If you just take action, the first trickle of Adsense income will spur you to continue.

For the record, I have my own custom WP theme following the rough guidelines in the thread. I'm averaging 40% clickthrough for SE traffic.

i've got a lot more testing to be doing!

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latinoman231982

15 years ago

For those using Xsite pro and looking for the best base template to use for quickness and ease of use i suggest the "Wacky 1" template from the plain template section.

This is the template I use and I can easily modify it to Johns course standard.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

For those using Xsite pro and looking for the best base template to use for quickness and ease of use i suggest the "Wacky 1" template from the plain template section.

This is the template I use and I can easily modify it to Johns course standard.

Everyone who is using xfactors ideas to make money should come up the price or the course. If you're giving away his template and anything else from the course I hope he does something about it.

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Biggy Fat

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kelly Verge

The real gold in XFactor's thread isn't the core of the method. It's the backlinking.

All of the sites I've created have spiked mid-first page within a few days then dropped back into the hundreds for a couple of weeks. So far the two that are at the 4-week mark have jumped back to the first page and are creeping up.

I'm pretty sure the ongoing trickle of backlinks will keep most of these sites from being sandboxed - if not completely, I doubt that'll be sandboxed for long.

I completely agree with the OP. Take action without worrying about the exact details. Otherwise, by the time you actually get started you'll be to discouraged to make any real continuing effort. If you just take action, the first trickle of Adsense income will spur you to continue.

For the record, I have my own custom WP theme following the rough guidelines in the thread. I'm averaging 40% clickthrough for SE traffic.

Awesome post. BTW Kelly, I have sent you PMs, did you ever get them?

Definitely take action. It is easy to article market using John's method.

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itcoll

15 years ago

thanks a lot for sharing this experience with us latinoman .One question i want to ask you is that do you use brand names just like how john did?

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LilBlackDress

15 years ago

I have John's book also. I have made 3 sites but have not promoted them yet as I had another project to finish.

I am curious are you all following his method of getting the backlinks exactly as he shares and getting traffic
or are you putting your own spin on it.

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15 years ago

"My daily routine from day one involved creating a site with 4 keywords, submitting 3 articles for each keyword then moving on to my next site. Nothing else, nothing more.The one thing Ive learnt is that action is the most important step to take if you want to accomplish anything"

So are you submitting 12 articles per site?

"I only have 35 articles submitted to this site. I guess the point im trying to make is that you shouldn't just rely on the numbers given to you, you should do some research before hand when using micro niche finder."

35 articles is a lot...how many articles do most of your sites have?

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15 years ago

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15 years ago

Latinoman231982 - Great job!

LilBlackDress - Don't worry about what he is doing. Every site YOU create will take a different amount of effort to get to #1 or whatever your goal is. For some sites, no matter how much effort you put in, there will be a maximum level that can be obtained. So Just starting doing something

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15 years ago

Guys

I aim for 3 articles each keyword when first promoting each new site. From there onwards I have no rule set in stone, I just write my articles 30 -40 and split them between all websites and pages. After the first month I get a clearer idea of where to go from there.

I must point out that alot of people seem to be just ranking there main keyword and not focusing on other pages within the site. I increased the income of one of my sites from 3 dollars daily to 7 dollars just by paying attention to the other pages within my site. Also I submitted my urls to yahoo and bing from the bat, I now rank in there search engines giving me extra valuable clicks.

I am only using static html sites. I use xsite pro. I only have one site that uses a product name, in future will probably consider more.

On average I have about 30 -40 articles submitted for each keyword on my website. I started earning from submitting as little as 5 articles on all my sites but its my personal choice to focus on a small amount of sites and get them earning all between 10 - 15 dollars each. I add new content once a week for all my sites.

No one likes to waste time, I had the same insecurity at first..." What if I put in all this effort and make nothing or a little" you need to get rid of this mental block and just follow the blueprint, if you will, blindly. Have faith.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

Guys

I aim for 3 articles each keyword when first promoting each new site. From there onwards I have no rule set in stone, I just write my articles 30 -40 and split them between all websites and pages. After the first month I get a clearer idea of where to go from there.

I must point out that alot of people seem to be just ranking there main keyword and not focusing on other pages within the site. I increased the income of one of my sites from 3 dollars daily to 7 dollars just by paying attention to the other pages within my site. Also I submitted my urls to yahoo and bing from the bat, I now rank in there search engines giving me extra valuable clicks.

I am only using static html sites. I use xsite pro. I only have one site that uses a product name, in future will probably consider more.

On average I have about 30 -40 articles submitted for each keyword on my website. I started earning from submitting as little as 5 articles on all my sites but its my personal choice to focus on a small amount of sites and get them earning all between 10 - 15 dollars each. I add new content once a week for all my sites.

No one likes to waste time, I had the same insecurity at first..." What if I put in all this effort and make nothing or a little" you need to get rid of this mental block and just follow the blueprint, if you will, blindly. Have faith.

30-40 articles per KEYWORD? Wow, I have been greatly underestimating what some people are doing. Do you mean on site articles, GoArticles or a mix of the two?

For myself I have found just a few articles has got me onto the front page and the Google dance has them on the way up at the moment so moved onto new sites and will review after they have been up a month whether additional articles are needed.

I also submitted a few to EZA but made the mistake of starting a new user rather than using a pen name and it seems to be taking about 2-3 weeks for articles to be approved for new users. Won't be makign that mistake again (waiting for them to be approved before I make any real judgement on backlinking needed as well)

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by John Hixson

30-40 articles per KEYWORD? Wow, I have been greatly underestimating what some people are doing. Do you mean on site articles, GoArticles or a mix of the two?

If it helps at all I'm averaging nearly 30 articles per keyword as well.... One site alone has 150 articles pointing at it, it made 7 cents today.... Sweet

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15 years ago

I don't write that many articles per site, at least not right off the bat for sure. In fact, nowhere near. I write maybe 20 per site, submit each site to some social bookmarking sites, answer a few Yahoo Answers for a couple of backlinks, and then move on to the next site. They all do fine, but some of them take a while to get going. I really think the best thing is build the site, write your articles, and then just move on and put up another site. Repeat, repeat, repeat.

I just started with the Adsense sites using John's method last week, but I have lots of Adsense sites already plus many affiliate sites, and I've had the best success with the method I just described. I've had the worst success when I've focused too much on one site and kept writing and writing for it and stressing about where it was in the rankings. So I stopped doing that. Less stress and more dollars.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by rainyclayday

I don't write that many articles per site, at least not right off the bat for sure. In fact, nowhere near. I write maybe 20 per site, submit each site to some social bookmarking sites, answer a few Yahoo Answers for a couple of backlinks,

I know some will disagree but I'm not sure the Yahoo Answers links are all that helpful except for traffic. From a backlinking perspective, they are no-follow if I recall correctly.

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15 years ago

No follow isn't completely worthless. It still factors into the PR algorithm currently used.

It's worthless for indexing, and anchor text draw however so that's absolutely correct in that sense.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by godoveryou

No follow isn't completely worthless. It still factors into the PR algorithm currently used.

It's worthless for indexing, and anchor text draw however so that's absolutely correct in that sense.

Yes I have some Yahoo Answers backlinks showing in my Webmaster Tools (and some other nofollow links) for some of my older sites.
So they are counted - but how much value they have - I dont know, but they are there.

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latinoman231982

15 years ago

Thats great john. You are right, most of all my sites ranked on first page with articles and some without. It's just a choice of main to build a bucket load of backlinks, then move on. I will rank every site between 1 -3 position, thats what i intend and THATS what i will do.

Lol. I made the same mistake at first with article submission. I use a mix of article directories to mix it up a bit.

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15 years ago

John, out of curiosity.. what part of london you moving to? lol. It would be great if any members near london area could meet up for a pint or 2 :-)

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

Thats great john. You are right, most of all my sites ranked on first page with articles and some without. It's just a choice of main to build a bucket load of backlinks, then move on. I will rank every site between 1 -3 position, thats what i intend and THATS what i will do.

Lol. I made the same mistake at first with article submission. I use a mix of article directories to mix it up a bit.

Yeah, my target is 1 - 3 but as I said a few weeks in and waiting for some articles to bit means its hard to tell what serp position i ahve right now so moving on and will re-evaluate what linking I need to do to hit 1-3 in a couple of weeks.

Experimenting on another site with Squidoo again and it seems more powerful then before (when I found it wasn't much use), though article creation is easier for traditional article directories. Mixing my time right now between GoArticles (mainly - following on from johns advice) whilst also testing EZA and Squidoo. Any other ones worth testing you reckon?

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John, out of curiosity.. what part of london you moving to? lol. It would be great if any members near london area could meet up for a pint or 2 :-)

Not sure yet, just on my way back to Wales (as soon as it stops raining, so maybe not today!) as I have been up here flat hunting. Nothing special but mostly looking around the clapham area. My girlfriend lives in East Dulwich so looking to be somewhere that is easy to get central and there via public transport (dont fancy driving much in London)

always up for a pint and a brainstorm. Well always up for a pint anyway!

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latinoman231982

15 years ago

Thats good to hear john. Ive yet to use social media sites as such, but will give that a go on the weekend. I have found that getting backlinks from photo sharing sites is cool, there are some pr5 ones out there that have helped out alot.

But to be honest i just stick to the article marketing for the most part.

P.s I have a friend who owns estate agent branches throughout london. If you need any help looking for a place just give me a pm :-)

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TristanPerry

15 years ago

Awesome thread, am glad to hear of your experiences

I've made 4 sites so far, although I think that 2/3 of them are in overly competitive niches.

I'm aiming to purchase MNF at the end of this month then hopefully that'll help me greatly with my keyword research

As mentioned above, it does seem that the sites take up to a month to mature. One of the sites I made 3/4 weeks ago has only just finished its Google 'dance' and ended up on position 2 of Google for its keyword. Another, which I made a few days after that, is still un-responsive to backlinking and on around position 8 (so hopefully in a few days time it'll settle down and rise up a bit more)

But yeah, it's clearly a very powerful method and I look forward to working on it a lot more in the future, especially when I have MNF.

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latinoman231982

15 years ago

i personally rewrite the articles. Ive heard you can submit the same article, but i dont know whether it would be counted as duplicate content or count less as a backlink. Maybe some one the forum can verify this?

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andyj00 15 years ago

Great thread! Well done latinoman231982 and its great to hear of your success.

I have 4 sites that have been running for around a month but disappointly I only get around 0 - 5 visitors a day for every site. I've picked some good niches with all the right stats but just not getting the traffic.

I've submitted around 40 articles to ezines for the 4 sites and a few others to Goarticles. I've also done some of Angelas backlinks.

Any ideas why I'm getting no traffic?

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15 years ago

Edit: This turned into a long-ish post. The most important point, IMO, is thus: Sites can take a month or more to settle and mature, so don't be put off. Okay, onto the post now

Wow, some crazy number of articles-per-keyword ratios there. Are you sure you've found very low SOC keywords?

To put things into perspective - before buying John's course (but still going off the free 32 page thread) I found a nice keyword (which intuitively looked low competition) and bought a domain for it (the direct .com of the domain). I written around 15 articles for it, total. The entire site was based around just one keyword (getting 4,400 global exact searches)

It took a month, but it finally settled today - it's now in top position and has earned me £1.57 today alone.

Before it settled it was earning me £0.00 - £0.30 per day, although it seems now to have settled and 'matured' - like a good cheese

Oddly enough, my CTRs seem higher now that it's settled too. Perhaps I was getting less targetted traffic or something. But it honestly does seem like you just need to give it time.

I was a little disappointed at first (since some people seemed to have amazing results from this, from the offset), but I guess it just needs to be said clearly that sites can take a month or more to settle and mature, so don't be put off.

Also if you write and have 10 articles approved, but see no change in the rankings, don't worry. This is normal and part of the Google bounce. For the website I mentioned, Google still hasn't indexed or picked up on some of my backlinks. In time they'll be seen by Google, and will still count

For one other website I created, I wrote and had around 35 articles published. The website moved from page 9 to page 10!! It's just the way Google does things.

I've now got 4 micro niche websites and am leaving them settle and mature. Then I'll test, and make some more websites.

Just realise that it can take time, and don't be put off. Seeing people saying how amazing their results are will always be a little off-putting, but you must put them into context and remember - as John/xFactor has said - that most sites do take time to settle down.

Pick a good, solid niche/keyword set to go after, build a website and aim for 350-500 words per page, write 10+ articles for it (going after the main keyword), and leave it for around a month or more if needed. Just keep checking its position in the SERPs and you'll get there in the end.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by TristanPerry

Edit: This turned into a long-ish post. The most important point, IMO, is thus: Sites can take a month or more to settle and mature, so don't be put off. Okay, onto the post now

Wow, some crazy number of articles-per-keyword ratios there. Are you sure you've found very low SOC keywords?

To put things into perspective - before buying John's course (but still going off the free 32 page thread) I found a nice keyword (which intuitively looked low competition) and bought a domain for it (the direct .com of the domain). I written around 15 articles for it, total. The entire site was based around just one keyword (getting 4,400 global exact searches)

It took a month, but it finally settled today - it's now in top position and has earned me £1.57 today alone.

Before it settled it was earning me £0.00 - £0.30 per day, although it seems now to have settled and 'matured' - like a good cheese

Oddly enough, my CTRs seem higher now that it's settled too. Perhaps I was getting less targetted traffic or something. But it honestly does seem like you just need to give it time.

I was a little disappointed at first (since some people seemed to have amazing results from this, from the offset), but I guess it just needs to be said clearly that sites can take a month or more to settle and mature, so don't be put off.

Also if you write and have 10 articles approved, but see no change in the rankings, don't worry. This is normal and part of the Google bounce. For the website I mentioned, Google still hasn't indexed or picked up on some of my backlinks. In time they'll be seen by Google, and will still count

For one other website I created, I wrote and had around 35 articles published. The website moved from page 9 to page 10!! It's just the way Google does things.

I've now got 4 micro niche websites and am leaving them settle and mature. Then I'll test, and make some more websites.

Just realise that it can take time, and don't be put off. Seeing people saying how amazing their results are will always be a little off-putting, but you must put them into context and remember - as John/xFactor has said - that most sites do take time to settle down.

Pick a good, solid niche/keyword set to go after, build a website and aim for 350-500 words per page, write 10+ articles for it (going after the main keyword), and leave it for around a month or more if needed. Just keep checking its position in the SERPs and you'll get there in the end.

Very good post and great to hear as that is exactly what I am following. I had noticed in sites not created following this system that it can take between a month or two for a site to settle, and sometimes longer to climb the rankings.

Which is why I am not offput by my sites not reaching #1 yet. They have bounced around a bit but the sites are slowly rising in what feels to me to be their 'base level'.

Keep backlinking, keep adding content and keep creating new sites. this is a numbers game. You might want every site ranking but it will take time nd you will need at least a month to assess what you need to do.

Obviously this experience is NOT from following John's method, which I am just starting on, but from experience with other sites that I have created following different methods.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by John Hixson

Very good post and great to hear as that is exactly what I am following. I had noticed in sites not created following this system that it can take between a month or two for a site to settle, and sometimes longer to climb the rankings.

Which is why I am not offput by my sites not reaching #1 yet. They have bounced around a bit but the sites are slowly rising in what feels to me to be their 'base level'.

Keep backlinking, keep adding content and keep creating new sites. this is a numbers game. You might want every site ranking but it will take time nd you will need at least a month to assess what you need to do.

Obviously this experience is NOT from following John's method, which I am just starting on, but from experience with other sites that I have created following different methods.

Thank you

And yes, I quite agree. It does seem like it just takes time.

It's funny how it works out, but it is sometimes the case that a website's rankings just "click" - or reach their "base level" as you say

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by TristanPerry

Edit: This turned into a long-ish post. The most important point, IMO, is thus: Sites can take a month or more to settle and mature, so don't be put off. Okay, onto the post now

Wow, some crazy number of articles-per-keyword ratios there. Are you sure you've found very low SOC keywords?

To put things into perspective - before buying John's course (but still going off the free 32 page thread) I found a nice keyword (which intuitively looked low competition) and bought a domain for it (the direct .com of the domain). I written around 15 articles for it, total. The entire site was based around just one keyword (getting 4,400 global exact searches)

It took a month, but it finally settled today - it's now in top position and has earned me £1.57 today alone.

Before it settled it was earning me £0.00 - £0.30 per day, although it seems now to have settled and 'matured' - like a good cheese

Oddly enough, my CTRs seem higher now that it's settled too. Perhaps I was getting less targetted traffic or something. But it honestly does seem like you just need to give it time.

I was a little disappointed at first (since some people seemed to have amazing results from this, from the offset), but I guess it just needs to be said clearly that sites can take a month or more to settle and mature, so don't be put off.

Also if you write and have 10 articles approved, but see no change in the rankings, don't worry. This is normal and part of the Google bounce. For the website I mentioned, Google still hasn't indexed or picked up on some of my backlinks. In time they'll be seen by Google, and will still count

For one other website I created, I wrote and had around 35 articles published. The website moved from page 9 to page 10!! It's just the way Google does things.

I've now got 4 micro niche websites and am leaving them settle and mature. Then I'll test, and make some more websites.

Just realise that it can take time, and don't be put off. Seeing people saying how amazing their results are will always be a little off-putting, but you must put them into context and remember - as John/xFactor has said - that most sites do take time to settle down.

Pick a good, solid niche/keyword set to go after, build a website and aim for 350-500 words per page, write 10+ articles for it (going after the main keyword), and leave it for around a month or more if needed. Just keep checking its position in the SERPs and you'll get there in the end.

It's a little like people who gamble, they never tell the times when they loose only the time they win. I had a site get indexed in hours and stay on the first page and then I've had several sites that bounced around for a while and some sites that didn't get indexed no matter what I didi and then poof all of a sudden there they are.

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TristanPerry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by marketseeker

It's a little like people who gamble, they never tell the times when they loose only the time they win. I had a site get indexed in hours and stay on the first page and then I've had several sites that bounced around for a while and some sites that didn't get indexed no matter what I didi and then poof all of a sudden there they are.

A brilliant sum-up of my post

I quite agree.

This method does certainly work, although as you point out people won't generally mention when their sites take 1+ months to settle down, only when they settle down within days and then make lots of money

(And understandably so I guess

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Oddly enough, the best/most promising site I've made took a week to get indexed, and has been stuck on something like page 11 ever since (despite, obviously, lots of indexed backlinking etc). Just the way it works sometimes

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latinoman231982

15 years ago

Andy

Well i am assuming you are on the first page of google for your sites, and are in a good serp position for clicks. There is a sweet spot.

One thing ive learnt is that not to always take the search volume from google at face value. I used a keyword for one of my sites that according to google recieves 7000 searches a month, and i came in the number 3 position in google. I recieved 5 visitors daily.

No keyword tool will have accurate search volume results, you can only hope in some cases. You also got to remember microniche finder pulls its results from google as well.

After I have checked google search volume i use wordtracker to get a rough estimate of daily searches and come to a conclusion from there.

Whats your estimated search volume for your key word? Try wordtrackers fee keyword tool and let me know it gives the same result. :-)

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

Andy

Well i am assuming you are on the first page of google for your sites, and are in a good serp position for clicks. There is a sweet spot.

One thing ive learnt is that not to always take the search volume from google at face value. I used a keyword for one of my sites that according to google recieves 7000 searches a month, and i came in the number 3 position in google. I recieved 5 visitors daily.

No keyword tool will have accurate search volume results, you can only hope in some cases. You also got to remember microniche finder pulls its results from google as well.

After I have checked google search volume i use wordtracker to get a rough estimate of daily searches and come to a conclusion from there.

Whats your estimated search volume for your key word? Try wordtrackers fee keyword tool and let me know it gives the same result. :-)

Hi latinoman

I think the problem is - that I'm not on page 1 for my main keywords on any site. My sites were on page 1 when they were first lauched for a few days - then settled down several pages lower (as they normally do).

Using seobook ranker tool, These are the position of each of the main keywords for each site in Google.com:

Site 1 postion 15
Site 2 position 65
Site 3 not in top 200
Site 4 position 115

I've picked the keywords in specific niches based excatly on xfactors recommendation for keywords (ie no of searches, no of competing pages etc..). All have an SOC of less than 10 and have more than 2000/2500 searches per month.

For backlinks, I have 10 articles submitted to ezines for each site and around another 30 submitted to Goarticles. I have submited to quite a lot of Angelas backlinks which usually do work. I have also submitted to a few socialbookmarks using socialmarker.

I thought my sites would have done a little better than this by now as they have been live for around a month and a half?

The only thing I can think of is that I'm using shared web hosting and have several other older sites sharing, could this make any difference? They are all seperate domain name but obviusly all share the same IP address.

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JMartin

15 years ago

For you guys who are targeting 1 product (like Sony's Widgets) are you putting the brand name as part of your domain name or picking something generic?

Just curious.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by JMartin

For you guys who are targeting 1 product (like Sony's Widgets) are you putting the brand name as part of your domain name or picking something generic?

Just curious.

At the moment I'm tending to avoid choosing a main keyword which contains a brand name/TMed name... but yes, if you do go for a keyword which is based on a real product, you will need to put it into the domain name (even though it's not really allowed) to have a good chance of rising up the ranks due to on-page SEO.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by JMartin

For you guys who are targeting 1 product (like Sony's Widgets) are you putting the brand name as part of your domain name or picking something generic?

Just curious.

I haven't yet but I am not ruling it out. John, the guy who started all this as far as I am concerned, says that he does it so that's good enough for me.

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jrodc777

15 years ago

I keep reading about an upgrade for xfactor's course. I am a member already but haven't saw any links to a new or upgraded program. Can someone point me in the right direction please?

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jrodc777 15 years ago

Just wanted to add my $.02 here.

I have read some replies about some who are not seeing good results right away, or at least for the 1st month or so.

Try this - Leave your adsense off of the site for 2 weeks to a month after going live. Even if you get indexed quickly.

I have found that my sites do better if I leave off the adsense for 2-4 weeks after the site has gone live. This is not a hard and fast rule, but I seem to have some luck with it.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Philly

Yes,John sent out an email to everyone saying that he found a new and faster way to get raked with articles..he said that he has been seeing better results with just one article submission per keyword...I can"t wait to see the full details myself.

I'm pretty sure that's one article per day, not one per keyword, instead of multiple articles per day for the first week or so.

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sachibhat 15 years ago

This post and xfactor's post has motivated me to take action.
Yesterday I built 1 website with 3 pages. Today will upload it to the server and do backlinking
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drakedillon

15 years ago

I too have purchases the course, purchases a few domain names and built a few sites. I launched them last week and have been working on the article marketing portion of the plan.

Here is my 0.02: Pick a niche that is interesting to you or a passion of yours and it will make writing articles for that nich that much easier. I believe that if you pick a niche that you do not have a clue about, you will struggle with writing articles.

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15 years ago

You need to re-read the course....

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TristanPerry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by wolfmmiii

You need to re-read the course....

Or more specifically chapter 5, starting at the bottom of page 68.

Of course, there's nothing saying that John's method is the *perfect* method, perhaps drakedillon has simply found/is working at a method that works best for him

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mexiken

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TristanPerry

Or more specifically chapter 5, starting at the bottom of page 68.

Of course, there's nothing saying that John's method is the *perfect* method, perhaps drakedillon has simply found/is working at a method that works best for him

A question for you about writing non-keyword related articles the way John mentions; what do you do if you're writing for a site that doesn't use an author's resource box like Ezine? (I've been using Infobarrel, for example)

I love the idea of writing about whatever I want and then just making the resource box contain the necessary links, but when there isn't one... do you just create one by adding an "about" paragraph at the end of the article?

Thanks for any advice/suggestions

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by mexiken

A question for you about writing non-keyword related articles the way John mentions; what do you do if you're writing for a site that doesn't use an author's resource box like Ezine? (I've been using Infobarrel, for example)

I love the idea of writing about whatever I want and then just making the resource box contain the necessary links, but when there isn't one... do you just create one by adding an "about" paragraph at the end of the article?

Thanks for any advice/suggestions

Hmm to be honest I only really use eZine and GoArticles so am not too sure what to suggest.

I'd probably suggest (if it's allowed) to simply write an article about your niche topic and then drop a link to your site somewhere in the article (as long as they allow that, of course).

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mexiken

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TristanPerry

Hmm to be honest I only really use eZine and GoArticles so am not too sure what to suggest.

I'd probably suggest (if it's allowed) to simply write an article about your niche topic and then drop a link to your site somewhere in the article (as long as they allow that, of course).

OK, thanks. Yeah, they definitely allow that. That's the way I've been writing articles but I just thought John's idea of writing about what you WANT to write about rather than what you find to be good, marketable keywords, was a brilliant idea. It just makes the writing process easier and less tedious than figuring out how to write about "blue carpet cleaners" or whatever.

Oh well, at least we have Ezine, GoA and some others where we can apply that technique and then use the 'old fashioned way' with the others.

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wolfmmiii

15 years ago

The right keywords are critical. However, finding them is fairly easy if you take your time and are careful. I find at least 5-10 good keywords every day. I wind up building sites out faster than I can write articles, hence the reason I lease them out.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by wolfmmiii

The right keywords are critical. However, finding them is fairly easy if you take your time and are careful. I find at least 5-10 good keywords every day. I wind up building sites out faster than I can write articles, hence the reason I lease them out.

Can you give some more details on your leasing operation. Do you have friends you lease to or are you marketing this approach? Also what kind of split do you negotiate and what is the length of lease, do you take control at some point or do you give an option to buy? As I write this I'm coming up with some ideas,

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wolfmmiii

15 years ago

Originally Posted by marketseeker

Can you give some more details on your leasing operation. Do you have friends you lease to or are you marketing this approach? Also what kind of split do you negotiate and what is the length of lease, do you take control at some point or do you give an option to buy? As I write this I'm coming up with some ideas,

I don't want to say too much here as I don't want to ruin the thread but anyone may lease. There is no split - you keep the profits as long as you maintain the lease. If I were ever to take over the site, you would be given the option to buy.

If there are any further questions from anyone, please see my sig. I don't want to hijack the thread.

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Kael41

15 years ago

Just FYI, I have sites that utilize both a generic name and a brand name in the url and I make money from both of them. Again, it's critical that the keyword research is done before hand before you make your move to build the site. However, do not become incapacitated to the point that you're in stuck mode because you're unsure.

If the numbers match up for something that might look good...pull the trigger. At the most it's a 7$ loss in domain name fees. I just refer to it as a cost of doing business.

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JMartin

15 years ago

I'm avoiding the brand in the domain for now. All it takes is a competitor calling that company's legal department to bring me down.

I could see doing it for a very quick effort site (a couple hours). Then if you get in trouble, just pray they accept the site as a gift rather than suing you.

Having done work for a company looking for sites like these (I'd use webmaster forums and Google looking for people putting their brand in the domain), I can tell you that the majority of the time they won't sue you right off. Instead they'll demand the site be given to them or removed instantly or altered.

A lot has to do with 2 things:

1. Are you being negative in any possible way? If yes, look out. If you're being overly positive, they just might look the other way.

2. Are you taking away (money) from the company? Perhaps outranking the company site, forcing them to spend ad dollars on your site, etc. If yes, bye bye.

However, if neither one of those conditions is met, then you've got a shot.

But, don't take this as legal advice. Just sharing some experience. A company could indeed sue you without warning (it's their right and some companies have nothing better to do).

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JMartin

15 years ago

Here's a question:

When you're selecting your product, do you have any rules for product cost in mind?

In other words, do you only target products that are $x or higher, like $500, or don't you care, even if the product is $4?

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TristanPerry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by JMartin

Here's a question:

When you're selecting your product, do you have any rules for product cost in mind?

In other words, do you only target products that are or higher, like $500, or don't you care, even if the product is $4?

I solely go on the price the adverts pay, which I check via Spyfu.com

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wolfmmiii

15 years ago

Anything with a minimum AdWords CPC of over $0.50 works for me although I prefer $1.00 and over. However, CPC is not my main concern. My main focus is picking keywords that I think will generate high CTR.

100 clicks on a $0.25 ad is much more than 3 clicks on a $2.00 ad.

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JMartin

15 years ago

Thanks for the feedback.

I wasn't really sure if I should keep looking for decently priced items or just forget the product price and look at all the other usual data I normally do.

Back to cranking out sites.

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JMartin

15 years ago

Market Samurai is another tool (that's what I use). However, if you're newer to analyzing data and following his course, I think it's best to just buy what he uses.

And of course, you can do everything for free and it's not hard. It's just soooooo much easier with these programs. Time is money.

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Estrella

15 years ago

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

When I first started implementing Johns advice i mistakingly picked a niche that had over 250 SOC and 40,000 competing sites. At the time when I followed the guide i didnt have access to micro nichefinder, so was solely relying on google keyword. It wasn't till after the purchase of micro niche finder that i realised I had picked a keyword which would be hard to compete for.

Hi latinoman231982,

Thanks for sharing your experience!

So, what SOC value (or range) do you aim for, nowadays?

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latinoman231982

15 years ago

After my experience with acidently picking a niche that technically i shouldnt get on first page, I know don't have a specific SOC that I really go for.

Obviously all green with low SOC is ideal, but from my experience so far, is that even if it shows red, depending on other factors such as first page competition etc etc I will still probably go for it. I finde these to be real goldmines as you hardly get any competition as people are just sticking by the green go rule and not taking into condieration other factors.

At this moment in time I have another site which has an SOC of 120 in the red, have 20 articles submitted, and the .com of the main keyword, with 10,000 searches a month. After 1 week I am number 9 on first page, and getting 5.00 dollars average.

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Biggy Fat

15 years ago

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

After my experience with acidently picking a niche that technically i shouldnt get on first page, I know don't have a specific SOC that I really go for.

Obviously all green with low SOC is ideal, but from my experience so far, is that even if it shows red, depending on other factors such as first page competition etc etc I will still probably go for it. I finde these to be real goldmines as you hardly get any competition as people are just sticking by the green go rule and not taking into condieration other factors.

At this moment in time I have another site which has an SOC of 120 in the red, have 20 articles submitted, and the .com of the main keyword, with 10,000 searches a month. After 1 week I am number 9 on first page, and getting 5.00 dollars average.

Okay, now THAT sounds really cool. So what would those other factors be as far as first page competition?

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JMartin

15 years ago

That's great latinoman231982.

The point to pay attention there is "first page competition." I've seen low, low, low competition KWPs where the 1st page absolutely sucked and would take a ridiculous amount of work.

The goal is page 1, so who cares how many results a KWP has or doesn't have if you probably won't get to page 1 without way to much effort-if at all.

I don't use MNF, so I don't see green, yellow, red, whatever. Since no one really knows the weight for factors, I wonder if basing your decision solely on "green lights" could hurt you somewhat or not.

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mdzarate

15 years ago

I have used some of the ideas from xfactor system...

I have alot of traffic to one site, but google banned my adsense for some stupid reasons that I am not sure what it was, this is a very white hat site and the only thing I can see was a WP template I used that put a title before my adsense ads, and google did not like that...anyways, my question to all of you is

What is a good alternative to adsense to make money on my highly visited site?

I installed banner ads from CPA and clickbank but I have got 5000 clicks and 0 sales

If I had adsense or something similar, I would be making good money.

I need to find a good replacemente for adsense, what do you guys recommend to use that will pay well and are trust worthy.

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kingside

15 years ago

Nice thread. My question to everyone out there who has been using this method -- what's the average time it takes to get your sites indexed (not ranked, just showing up in Google)?

I've built 4 sites so far and haven't had any indexed. I did a small amount of bookmarking (4-5 sites manually and using Onlywire) and blog commenting on the first three when I launched them, then started with articles yesterday, but I'm sticking with articles for the last one since I haven't seen results.

Maybe I'm just impatient. Been 72 hours for one, 48 hours for 2, and about 24 hours for the last.

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TristanPerry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by kingside

Nice thread. My question to everyone out there who has been using this method -- what's the average time it takes to get your sites indexed (not ranked, just showing up in Google)?

I've built 4 sites so far and haven't had any indexed. I did a small amount of bookmarking (4-5 sites manually and using Onlywire) and blog commenting on the first three when I launched them, then started with articles yesterday, but I'm sticking with articles for the last one since I haven't seen results.

Maybe I'm just impatient. Been 72 hours for one, 48 hours for 2, and about 24 hours for the last.

One of mine took 6 days to get indexed (that was with pinging twice a day, too). It sometimes just takes time

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wolfmmiii

15 years ago

Originally Posted by kingside

Nice thread. My question to everyone out there who has been using this method -- what's the average time it takes to get your sites indexed (not ranked, just showing up in Google)?

I've built 4 sites so far and haven't had any indexed. I did a small amount of bookmarking (4-5 sites manually and using Onlywire) and blog commenting on the first three when I launched them, then started with articles yesterday, but I'm sticking with articles for the last one since I haven't seen results.

Maybe I'm just impatient. Been 72 hours for one, 48 hours for 2, and about 24 hours for the last.

Mine are almost always indexed within 48-72 hours. I even had one for a client indexed and ranked on page 1 (#8) for the targeted keyword within 72 hours.

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kingside 15 years ago

Originally Posted by wolfmmiii

Mine are almost always indexed within 48-72 hours. I even had one for a client indexed and ranked on page 1 (#8) for the targeted keyword within 72 hours.

Could you elaborate a little bit on what your first 48 hours of link building looks like for your average micro-site?
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  I linkwheel every site with 8-10 properties. In addition, I submit RSS feeds of all properties (where available) plus the money page. I also bookmark everything. Lots of work before I even start article marketing.
  
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  Do you use a tool like RSSBot to submit your RSS feeds or you do it manually? Same goes for bookmarking.. you use an automated tool like Onlywire or just hit the big ones like digg / reddit manually?
  
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15 years ago

I use RSS Submit and OnlyWire.

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vagabondette

15 years ago

I launched my first site yesterday. It was indexed 4 hours later.

Can anyone recommend a good rank checking tool?

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AJsVRE 15 years ago

Originally Posted by vagabondette

I launched my first site yesterday. It was indexed 4 hours later.

Can anyone recommend a good rank checking tool?

Like JMartin mentioned above, you can get the SEO toolbar from (what I think he meant to say) seobook. The SEO Toolbar

It has their RankChecker built into the toolbar (which, I chose not to display all the time, I only display it when I want/need it, I don't like a bunch of toolbar clutter) and with the RankChecker you can "save" searches and perform them easily all the time. You can even schedule them, but I haven't done that so I don't know how it gets reported. There's a video you can watch that shows you how to set it up. (scroll down on the above linked page till you see "Rank Checker" for the vid)

Other than that, if you don't want to do all that, you can go to: googlesearchpositionfinder.com -- Find the position your website is at for any search term in $search_engine_name
and just enter your search terms and webpage.

If it's something you're going to be doing often, I highly suggest you go the seo toolbar route.
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  Originally Posted by AJsVRE
  
  Like JMartin mentioned above, you can get the SEO toolbar from (what I think he meant to say) seobook.
  
  Yeah, LOL. I wasn't paying attention.
  
  I love having it. So easy to quickly analyze sites.
  
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marketseeker

15 years ago

Originally Posted by vagabondette

I launched my first site yesterday. It was indexed 4 hours later.

Can anyone recommend a good rank checking tool?

don't forget that adsense policy is they don't like auto rank checking so be careful

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terryd 15 years ago

Originally Posted by marketseeker

don't forget that adsense policy is they don't like auto rank checking so be careful

I've never heard of this before, where did you read that?
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  Originally Posted by terryd
  
  I've never heard of this before, where did you read that?
  
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Biggy Fat 15 years ago

Originally Posted by marketseeker

don't forget that adsense policy is they don't like auto rank checking so be careful

Ditto here.
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terryrayburn

15 years ago

Originally Posted by marketseeker

don't forget that adsense policy is they don't like auto rank checking so be careful

"Don't use unauthorized computer programs to submit pages, check rankings, etc. Such programs consume computing resources and violate our Terms of Service. Google does not recommend the use of products such as WebPosition Gold™ that send automatic or programmatic queries to Google."

This is from
Webmaster guidelines - Webmasters/Site owners Help

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terryrayburn

15 years ago

Also covered by "Automated Queries" as follows:

"Google's Terms of Service do not allow the sending of automated queries of any sort to our system without express permission in advance from Google. Sending automated queries absorbs resources and includes using any software (such as WebPosition Gold™) to send automated queries to Google to determine how a website or webpage ranks in Google search results for various queries."

(This is at the same link as my previous post).

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Ghalt

15 years ago

Question about the articles.

I see you guys are mentioning having 20-30 articles per site.

If you have a 5 page site, what's the breakdown between links to your main site's URL and to the deep urls?

I know this probably falls under the 'getting-caught-in-the-details' category. I have been taking action, I promise. I have four niche sites that I've built after reading Xfactor's course. One is doing better than $2 per day, and it's less than 2 weeks old.

Another just got de-indexed (as in removed, not just downranked)...but I expect it to come back, and I'm trusting in the process, not short-term numbers.

I have articles split between EZA and GOA. But almost all of the articles written thus far have been targeted at the top level URL.

Just curious what some of you regulars are using for guidelines...not that I'm waiting around doing nothing until you tell me exactly what to do.

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JMartin

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ghalt

If you have a 5 page site, what's the breakdown between links to your main site's URL and to the deep urls?
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I have articles split between EZA and GOA. But almost all of the articles written thus far have been targeted at the top level URL.

You want to get links to your internal pages, otherwise they are wasted as you could potentially just be ranked well for 1 page (home page).

As for split, I mix mine up. At the very least I give each page some attention (money pages I mean). So let's say you had a home page and 5 internal pages and where going to write 20 articles. You could start with 3 per page, which is 18 articles. Take the remain 2 articles and promo the home page.

It's all up to you, but doing all 20 for the home page (if that's all you plan on doing) isn't good.

Sometimes I'll also pick 1-2 internal pages that I really, really want to nail and treat them like my home page, so for 20 articles I might do this:

Home: 6 articles
Good money 1: 4 articles
Good money 2: 4 articles
Internal 3: 2 articles
Internal 4: 2 articles
Internal 5: 2 articles

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JMartin

15 years ago

Mine take up to a week. It's really all over the place. Seems like the less work I do to get a site indexed, the better.

The last one I did took about 48 hours. All I did was give sitemap to google, add G analytics and bookmark the homepage at a couple SB sites--so about 5 min of work.

For PR checking, try whatisyourpagerank.com OR if you use FireFox, go to tools.seotools.com and get the SEO Toolbar, which is great. It does a lot of things, but I like clicking the "I" button to get PR, age, pages indexed, links, etc. It also is clickable, so if I click on the age, it takes me to the archives site.

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dswift33

15 years ago

Is it possible to use a tool like Market Samurai with equal effectiveness?

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vagabondette

15 years ago

Thanks, that's the one I was looking at. I'll look into it more.

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Ghalt

15 years ago

Cool. So basically you try to divide it relatively evenly.

Of course, we can actually promote 2 links per article...so...

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JMartin

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ghalt

Cool. So basically you try to divide it relatively evenly.

Of course, we can actually promote 2 links per article...so...

Initially, I set out with a little plan. After that I just write and pick a link.

Also, some of my articles have just 1 link with about a paragraph or two of text. Just depends. I like mixing it up.

Sometimes I'll do 2 links to the same site, sometimes 1 link to the site, and sometimes a link to 2 different sites.

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schnisz

15 years ago

I have a question for JMartin or anybody else using market samurai. What are good filter numbers to use when selecting keywords? I know MS returns a lot of info, but what have you guys found best replicates what people are doing with mnf? thanks

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by schnisz

I have a question for JMartin or anybody else using market samurai. What are good filter numbers to use when selecting keywords? I know MS returns a lot of info, but what have you guys found best replicates what people are doing with mnf? thanks

brian

I'm not sure what all you need help with, but here's a basic rundown of its use:

1. Setup a master KWP to look at. When I'm starting my research I make sure that phrase length is set to at least 2 words. Sometimes I like going to 3. There's no point in doing 1 word since you're not going to target a one-word KWP.

I leave everything else alone here at first. However, I will check "Google Search Keywords" if I'm already deep drilling into something.

2. Once the list is there, I just take a glance to see if something is out of place. For instance, if I'm searching for Sony CD players and I see Panasonic CD players, I'll use Panasonic as a negative word OR use Sony as a positive word if I want it in all my KWPs.

From here, you click on Analyze Keywords to start the journey.

3. PRE-analyze

The settings I do from here depend on my goal: Main KWP, secondary KWP, article idea

For main KWP: I do total searches 100 or greater, phrase to broad match at 15%, SEOV $50

For secondary KWP: I do total searches 20 or greater, phrase to broad at 5%, SEOV at $10

For article ideas (post ideas, etc): I do total searches 10 or greater, phrase to broad 3%, SEOV $5

Basically, I like to review myself, so I don't kill off too many choices. My goal for starters is to dump about 40% of my list when looking for a main KWP, 25% for a secondary and only 10% or so for other ideas.

4. Analyze KWP

Now I hit the analyze KWP button and wait for the results.

Since I can sort any column, I don't waste my time filtering out SEOC or more SEOV from here. Instead, I just order the SEOC column from smallest to greatest.

I look at each KWP quickly. If it's on topic, gets the traffic I want, AWCPC I want and is under the SEOC I want, I click the key to make it a KWP (next step).

When I've done this to my whole list--just up to the acceptable SEOC limit--I'm ready for the next step.

BTW, the SEOC limit is really just a loose guide (same with MNF SOC). A lower number doesn't mean an easier niche. It's all about the actual 10-20 first results in Google. However, the odds are you'll find weaker KWPs by just looking at lower competition KWPs.

So an example in MS might be looking at all KWPs with under 100k SEOC and really looking for anything 20K and under.

5. From here I look up all KWPs in the SEO Competition tab (all options checked).

MS does green, yellow, red. The more green you see the better.

However, rather than just looking at those 10 results as a collection, look at each one. Count how many are close to green where it counts. This is what I do. If I see a couple all green and a couple mostly green, I'm possibly in.

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knight8

15 years ago

Liked the article a lot. I just started using micro niche finder and I was able to write some good PLR when combining the niches and Google keywords. Thanks for the advice.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by latinoman231982

When I first started implementing Johns advice i mistakingly picked a niche that had over 250 SOC and 40,000 competing sites. At the time when I followed the guide i didnt have access to micro nichefinder, so was solely relying on google keyword. It wasn't till after the purchase of micro niche finder that i realised I had picked a keyword which would be hard to compete for.

Surprisingly, at this moment in time for the past 2 months this website with this keyword in the domain is ranking number 5 in google and brings me 30-40 unique visitor daily. I only have 35 articles submitted to this site. I guess the point im trying to make is that you shouldn't just rely on the numbers given to you, you should do some research before hand when using micro niche finder.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Thanks for the great post latinoman!

Your comments above really hit the mark. In my experience, I've found that I'm far more interested in domain name availability than SOC. And as you rightly indicate, we can put too much empasis on SOC and overlook some real gems with earning potential.

After learning this from real world experience, I've changed my research procedure a bit. after identifying the niche, I run the keywords through MNF using exact match. Once I get the results, I order by Search Count and do a domain name lookup on the top results. I uncheck any results from the list where all three top level domains are not available. I make a note in a spreadsheet of each domain and the extension that's available. Finally, I run an SOC check on the remaining keywords, knowing that I can purchase and rank for almost any of them with the right strategy.

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kingside

15 years ago

Question for everyone on the article submission portion of this. Since we're mostly caring about the backlinks from the articles, is there any reason why we can't submit the same, unedited article to GoArticles as we do to EZA? We don't really care where they rank so I'm guessing this wouldn't be a concern, but so far everyone seems to be submitting unique articles to each.

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kingside

15 years ago

Bump.. anyone have any opinions on submitting the same article to EZA & GoArticles?

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Originally Posted by kingside

Bump.. anyone have any opinions on submitting the same article to EZA & GoArticles?

It'll be fine. Unique is always better, but it still works. I am making the assumption that you might lose 10%-20% link power, but that is easily made up with overall volume. --Again, that is my personal assumption--

I submit my articles to a total of 6 or seven article directories and the only think I change is the resource box and the article title.
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smedsribaka

15 years ago

John,

Thank you SO MUCH for creating such a great ebook on this subject. It is simple, powerful, truthful, has no hype, lays it all on the line and points anyone who takes action to a wonderful way to create a solid income online!

It is also a BREATH OF FRESH AIR! (just one way to describe it).

One quick question- Since you mentioned the possibility of getting your Adsense account removed, would you advise that we put Yahoos YPN ads on one part of the page and Adsense on the other? Is that a good option or will that just make Adsense mad? I mean I HATE having all my eggs in one basket and I know people who went from $10K a week to $0 the next because of the tactics of Big G without any warning whatsoever. What would you recommend here?

THANKS AGAIN!
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bigbyte

15 years ago

Originally Posted by smedsribaka

John,

Thank you SO MUCH for creating such a great ebook on this subject. It is simple, powerful, truthful, has no hype, lays it all on the line and points anyone who takes action to a wonderful way to create a solid income online!

It is also a BREATH OF FRESH AIR! (just one way to describe it).

One quick question- Since you mentioned the possibility of getting your Adsense account removed, would you advise that we put Yahoos YPN ads on one part of the page and Adsense on the other? Is that a good option or will that just make Adsense mad? I mean I HATE having all my eggs in one basket and I know people who went from $10K a week to $0 the next because of the tactics of Big G without any warning whatsoever. What would you recommend here?

THANKS AGAIN!
Kelly

You would violate the Google TOS if you mix Yahoo and Google ads on your website. Read the TOS for exact details.

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mgcstrat

15 years ago

I just picked up John's course and I will start with a few sites that I have already found keywords for but I am currently in the middle of another project that I must finish first.

Anyhow, I get concerned about having my adsense account banned because of having the adsense block beneath the title.

Here are a few quick questions that I have:

Has anyone experimented with adding text under the title/above the adsense block? Has it affected your conversions? If so, roughly how much? Does anyone else have the same concerns? Does anyone know for a fact that they got banned from adsense because their ad block was directly under the title?

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jplanigan

15 years ago

Originally Posted by mgcstrat

Has anyone experimented with adding text under the title/above the adsense block? Has it affected your conversions? If so, roughly how much? Does anyone else have the same concerns? Does anyone know for a fact that they got banned from adsense because their ad block was directly under the title?

I think a lot of people who are using XFactors method are putting text between the title and the adsense block, myself included. I can't say if it affects CTR as it is the only way I have done mine. The WP theme that was available from the members area had this built in which is how I came to do it. The text is in a lighter gray so it does not stand out that much. I am still getting in the neighborhood of 25% CTR.

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mgcstrat

15 years ago

Originally Posted by jplanigan

I think a lot of people who are using XFactors method are putting text between the title and the adsense block, myself included. I can't say if it affects CTR as it is the only way I have done mine. The WP theme that was available from the members area had this built in which is how I came to do it. The text is in a lighter gray so it does not stand out that much. I am still getting in the neighborhood of 25% CTR.

Patrick

Thanks for the input. I was considering two lines of text in a nice non obvious gray also. Don't want to distract from what's important.

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ScottR 15 years ago

Originally Posted by mgcstrat

Thanks for the input. I was considering two lines of text in a nice non obvious gray also. Don't want to distract from what's important.

I just put a single line of text myself to be safe. On the Adsense site they show an example ad placement with just a single author's byline between the headline and a large ad block, so it really shouldn't be a problem. Just avoid any text that might seem to refer to the adsense unit below, such as "Some great deals on spare widgets", etc.
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promo_guy

15 years ago

Way to go latinoman! Awesome to hear things are working out for you. Actually, this thread got me a bit more motivated so I bought 6 domains today. I only bought John's ebook 2 days ago and I'm busy with a big project but I still felt like I was "too worried" about picking the right domains thus procrastinating. lol Crazy but everyone's right, just take the plunge and go for it.

Also, jplanigan, you said John provided a WP Theme in the members area? I didn't see one. Can anyone (John?) let me know how I could have overlooked this? Actually, nevermind, I spent a few gruelling hours today converting one of my WooThemes into an exact replica of John's example in the ebook. lol I have to admit, I normally prefer nicer looking sites but I can see how the simplicity would work for high CTR.

Quick question to some of you more experience Adsensers. I went ahead and bought a couple domains today (out of my 6) because according to MNF and Spyfu it shows the higher end of the CPC to be around $10/click, so theoretically I'd get $5.00...however...the search volume only shows 1,000 on one keyword and 1,600 on another. I almost didn't buy them because I reckon I'd probably only get a couple visitors per day (depending on how many pages/articles I decide to create on my site).

So, my question is, will some of you guys/gals buy and develop a domain with low search volume (according to G/MNF/M Samurai) if the keywords are high paying (and low competition)?

I think once I get the hang of things I'll end up looking beyond the green SOC button too. Just want to see how well my first sites do.

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ScottR

15 years ago

Originally Posted by promo_guy

the search volume only shows 1,000 on one keyword and 1,600 on another. I almost didn't buy them because I reckon I'd probably only get a couple visitors per day (depending on how many pages/articles I decide to create on my site).

I'd say that is decent enough traffic to try it out. Especially if you are talking exact match results, which I believe MNF defaults to (at least mine does). You might want to check out the phrase match tracffic through MNF if you haven't already, as it might be quite a bit higher.

As for the high end per click estimate, you are not likely to see the full 5 bucks per click, as those estimates are based more on bids for Adwords for search, rather than for the content network, which generally attracts lower bids. You might well average $1 to $2.50 per click though, depending on the niche. The only way to know for sure is to try it.

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promo_guy

15 years ago

Originally Posted by ScottR

I'd say that is decent enough traffic to try it out. Especially if you are talking exact match results, which I believe MNF defaults to (at least mine does). You might want to check out the phrase match tracffic through MNF if you haven't already, as it might be quite a bit higher.

As for the high end per click estimate, you are not likely to see the full 5 bucks per click, as those estimates are based more on bids for Adwords for search, rather than for the content network, which generally attracts lower bids. You might well average $1 to $2.50 per click though, depending on the niche. The only way to know for sure is to try it.

Hi ScottR, thanks for the input. I just checked phrase matching and it only goes up a few hundred, ie from 1,600 to 2,400 or whatever so I won't get my hopes up too high on these sites.

I just realized something though, I keep focusing on the data for the keywords in the domain only, once I start building pages out and rank for those, then you are exponentially increasing your chances of getting more clicks. So, if these 2 little sites show promise and are good earners with little competition/traffic, I'll just build pages out and see how they do.

Once again, I'm new to building these types of sites, but I have to agree John's ebook is great. It's simple in concept and I feel it'll be easy enough to rank these sites over time.

Not sure about 30-50 articles per page / per site to ezine or goa or whatever. Just do what you need to do. Mixing up your links also would appear more natural and in 15 minutes to write an article you could have 15-100 links out there from multiple resources.

Just wanted to finish with, I had a domain that I pretty much forgot about, built a 10-page site, no backlinks, and within a week I was on pg 1 of Google out of 65,000,000 results. It was once I slammed the site with links quickly after that to "retain" first pg position that it's doing the Google dance.

So, out of 65 million, I'd say we can safely target "red" SOC results too. Of course, I'm decent with on-page SEO etc. so that probably helped but it made me think that in the beginning we don't need to slam our sites so fast with links??

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kingside

15 years ago

Originally Posted by promo_guy

Hi ScottR, thanks for the input. I just checked phrase matching and it only goes up a few hundred, ie from 1,600 to 2,400 or whatever so I won't get my hopes up too high on these sites.

I just realized something though, I keep focusing on the data for the keywords in the domain only, once I start building pages out and rank for those, then you are exponentially increasing your chances of getting more clicks. So, if these 2 little sites show promise and are good earners with little competition/traffic, I'll just build pages out and see how they do.

Once again, I'm new to building these types of sites, but I have to agree John's ebook is great. It's simple in concept and I feel it'll be easy enough to rank these sites over time.

Not sure about 30-50 articles per page / per site to ezine or goa or whatever. Just do what you need to do. Mixing up your links also would appear more natural and in 15 minutes to write an article you could have 15-100 links out there from multiple resources.

Just wanted to finish with, I had a domain that I pretty much forgot about, built a 10-page site, no backlinks, and within a week I was on pg 1 of Google out of 65,000,000 results. It was once I slammed the site with links quickly after that to "retain" first pg position that it's doing the Google dance.

So, out of 65 million, I'd say we can safely target "red" SOC results too. Of course, I'm decent with on-page SEO etc. so that probably helped but it made me think that in the beginning we don't need to slam our sites so fast with links??

Anyway, that's another discussion

That's pretty much my strategy at the moment, just do a minimal amount of link building up front, wait till the pages get indexed, and see where I'm at. Of course this really depends on the competitiveness of the niche, but so far so good. I have 5 sites that I've only submitted 4 articles each for and did some social bookmarking. 4 out of the 5 landed on the front page when they were indexed.

To me it's important to see how they fare when they're more or less where they should be, because I don't want to write 20 more articles for the site if my page is in 4th position and only getting 1 visitor a day.

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15 years ago

lot of quicker out there. Including me

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promo_guy

15 years ago

Hmmm... I never got this email! Also, I wrote to john at his gmail account as that's what it said in the ebook and he never replied.

Were we supposed to sign up to something after getting the ebook download link?

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falconflier19 15 years ago

The e-mail was pretty general and did not give specifics. Just to stay tuned. Have you received any e-mails? He just sent another out today.
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JMartin

15 years ago

I never get emails from him either. However, when I log into the members area I see them.

Just wanted to add that you don't want to go overboard with a new site. Always look "natural" for Google. And if your KWP research is decent, you should be able to see decent listings right off without killing yourself. From there you'll be able to tell if a site is worth more effort or not.

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promo_guy

15 years ago

Originally Posted by JMartin

Just wanted to add that you don't want to go overboard with a new site. Always look "natural" for Google. And if your KWP research is decent, you should be able to see decent listings right off without killing yourself. From there you'll be able to tell if a site is worth more effort or not.

I totally agree with JMartin. I think I mentioned but I had a site rank on page 1 of the big G out of 65m results but then I got a little silly and 4 days in a row submitted my site to 100 directories per day. Not sure if that's what it was but it's no longer on page 1. Maybe it's the Google tango? Who knows. However, that site is still #1 on Yahoo.

Another site I'm building as an Amazon aff site is on page 1 in Google with next to no backlinks. Also, it's on pg 1 of Yahoo too (16m results but only 63,000 with quotes). I basically drip feed 3 pages per day, ping about every 3rd day, ping the RSS aggregators, and only submitted my links to a few places. Gonna take it slower with this one lol

I got 6 sites prepared for content today. Once I add the articles, ie pages on the site, I'll submit my RSS, submit maybe a few articles, maybe create a few web 2.0 properties, and see how it goes. Theoretically they should all rank super easy as the keywords I bought domains for were were pretty non-competitive according to MNF. I find working with an "assembly line" approach I'm able to get more done. Line up all 6 sites (I use wordpress), have my to do list, have Adsense open for creating ads/channels, google webmaster tools, yahoo and bing, analytics, all ready to go...bing bang boom!

I'm more concerned that John's guide is asking us to pursure such low competition that we hardly ever get clicks.

But, I'm remaining positive and gonna build these suckers as fast as I can! lol

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TristanPerry

15 years ago

I get the announcement e-mails but not replies back from questions/e-mails I send him.

Seems there's an e-mail issue there?

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bluefoot

15 years ago

Tristan,

John has an announcement in the member area saying he changed his email address on 9/15. Maybe you're sending to the old address.

Phil

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I get the announcement e-mails but not replies back from questions/e-mails I send him.

Seems there's an e-mail issue there?

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TristanPerry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by bluefoot

Tristan,

John has an announcement in the member area saying he changed his email address on 9/15. Maybe you're sending to the old address.

Phil

Hi Phil,
Nah it's definitely the new one I sent to (I e-mailed to his old address, before he changed, too). Might just be on my end. It's no big deal anywhoo, was just adding to what other people have said about not receiving some e-mails

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JMartin

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TristanPerry

Hi Phil,
Nah it's definitely the new one I sent to (I e-mailed to his old address, before he changed, too). Might just be on my end. It's no big deal anywhoo, was just adding to what other people have said about not receiving some e-mails

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No Tristan, you're just padding your post count. We all know it.

I did email John once and he got back to me the next day.

The good news is this forum has lots of helpful people and I think a private forum over there would be very nice.

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XFactor

15 years ago

Originally Posted by TristanPerry

Hi Phil,
Nah it's definitely the new one I sent to (I e-mailed to his old address, before he changed, too). Might just be on my end. It's no big deal anywhoo, was just adding to what other people have said about not receiving some e-mails

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Hi Tristan and Everyone,

I just sent an email out today letting you all know that I'm backed up
from your questions, which can be very tough to get to unless I can
figure out a way to clone myself

James Jones of Micro Niche Finder also endorsed my E-book, so that
was also in influx of many new readers.

I'm also building the upcoming forum, which will take about 4-5 days
to beat out all of the bugs.

So while all of this is happening, I'm in the process of getting to your
emails when I can and writing course updates.

But you guys are the best! So I never mind getting your emails, just
understand that I am doing my best and do not earn anything extra
to reply to hundreds of these emails daily.

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StephenDavies 15 years ago

Hey John,

I for one don't mind waiting for the update, as far as I'm concerned you can take as long as you like. I just know it will be well worth waiting for, just like the original.

Steve.
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TristanPerry

15 years ago

Hi John,
Yeah no worries at all, thanks for the update and very glad to hear that things are going ever-well for you

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mexiken

15 years ago

Dang John, you're a machine!

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My sincere hope is that once the forum is up, many of these questions you're receiving and answering individually will be posted there and can be viewed and answered by others. Maybe with all those questions more readily accessible to your students, you won't need to be answering them (most likely repeatedly) nearly as much, and we'll all be able to learn more from each other; from those of us who believe in and are following your system.

That would give you more time to work on the updates that I am so very much looking forward to.

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kingside

15 years ago

Well after about a week, still not quitting my day job

. I have 5 sites live and indexed. 3 of which are on the first page for their target keyword terms, but they're getting no traffic whatsoever (between the 3 of them, I got one visitor yesterday).

The other two sites are indexed, but no where to be found for my target keyword phrases. I find it odd because these niches have really low competition as well, but the pages were just indexed a day or two ago so I probably just need to give it some time.

I'm launching a few more sites this weekend but am only focused on keywords that show 2000-3000 exact searches in MNF and similar data in keyworddiscovery--it really sucks to get where you want to be and not get the clicks.

Patience..

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sachibhat

15 years ago

Originally Posted by kingside

Well after about a week, still not quitting my day job

. I have 5 sites live and indexed. 3 of which are on the first page for their target keyword terms, but they're getting no traffic whatsoever (between the 3 of them, I got one visitor yesterday).

The other two sites are indexed, but no where to be found for my target keyword phrases. I find it odd because these niches have really low competition as well, but the pages were just indexed a day or two ago so I probably just need to give it some time.

I'm launching a few more sites this weekend but am only focused on keywords that show 2000-3000 exact searches in MNF and similar data in keyworddiscovery--it really sucks to get where you want to be and not get the clicks.

Patience..

What was your search count for the keywords you targeted???

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kingside 15 years ago

Originally Posted by sachibhat

What was your search count for the keywords you targeted???

Just over 1000 exact match for all terms, but I was silly and jumped the gun since I was just how saw soft the competition was on those niches. After checking the same terms in other keyword tools it's pretty clear they're losers.

I also made the mistake of picking a couple of seasonal keywords (summer), so it's not really surprising that the search count was a bit misleading.
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schnisz

15 years ago

I have a question for anybody using the wordpress theme that was offered through John's site. I am having an alignment issue. Everything was set up fine, then out of the blue my main adsene block and content on my pages has become centered instead of aligned on the left like it originally was. I figure this may be an easy coding fix, but thats my weak point. appreciate any advice!

Brian

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kingside

15 years ago

Maybe I'm just missing it, but are you downloading the WP from John's website? I'm in the members / download area and all I see are the ebooks and a couple of videos.

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schnisz 15 years ago

There was a link to a third party there a couple of weeks ago, but it is gone now. I was wondering if anyone else had grabbed it while it was there.
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- rainyclayday 15 years ago
  
  Just want to report on my 4 sites I made. The first 2 are making money and they get a CTR of no less than 25% but usually higher. Today I made $9.00 so far. The last 2 sites I made have not started earning yet.
  
  So guys, it works, just keep on building your sites. I submitted the articles that he suggested and I also social bookmarked my sites, but that's all I have done.
  
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  Very nice rainyclay, how long have your sites been live?
  
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  Not long, I just made them. Let's see, maybe 3 weeks for the first 2, and maybe 2 weeks for the second two. Not long at all. I am working on two more. I was going to do two per week but it's tough to keep up because I have all my other sites that I also have to keep up with which I do article marketing for every day. And I also have yet to ditch my day job.
  
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XFactor

15 years ago

Originally Posted by kingside

Maybe I'm just missing it, but are you downloading the WP from John's website? I'm in the members / download area and all I see are the ebooks and a couple of videos.

No I do not (and would not) offer a "template" of any site structure.

My personal viewpoint is that everyone should learn the site-builder
of their choice like the back of their hand - as this will allow you to
make any site layout you want for any niche occasion.

Having said that, I do have a list of designers in the member download
area as well as in the forum that you can contact for your template
needs.

So if you purchased any templates from anyone, and are having
trouble or questions - you need to contact them for support.

I am out of the loop on all of the 3rd party services, and will maintain
my position on that.

- John

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promo_guy

15 years ago

I know the feeling lol

I have an amazon affiliate site on pg 1 of Google out of 2.5million results for 1 variation of my keyword and jumped from pg 10 to pg 4 for another variation of the keyword (this time out of 65 million results). Backlinks are slow for now and there's still movement in the serps which proves you don't need to hammer your site with backlinks in the beginnig. I'm more than confident I can rank my sites on pg 1 for low comp keywords.

On Yahoo I am on page 1 (spots #2 and #3) for both variations of the keyword out of around 65 million results. Still, only a few clicks per day. Granted the exact match for the keyword is only around 5,000/month but I have dozens of pages indexed which means long tail search potential.

I have to admit, with results like this it makes me consider PPC!

But, to be fair, I have yet to finish my "xfactor" sites so we'll see how they do.

Keep us posted Kingside

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kingside

15 years ago

Originally Posted by promo_guy

I know the feeling lol

I have an amazon affiliate site on pg 1 of Google out of 2.5million results for 1 variation of my keyword and jumped from pg 10 to pg 4 for another variation of the keyword (this time out of 65 million results). Backlinks are slow for now and there's still movement in the serps which proves you don't need to hammer your site with backlinks in the beginnig. I'm more than confident I can rank my sites on pg 1 for low comp keywords.

On Yahoo I am on page 1 (spots #2 and #3) for both variations of the keyword out of around 65 million results. Still, only a few clicks per day. Granted the exact match for the keyword is only around 5,000/month but I have dozens of pages indexed which means long tail search potential.

I have to admit, with results like this it makes me consider PPC!

But, to be fair, I have yet to finish my "xfactor" sites so we'll see how they do.

Keep us posted Kingside

LOL I know what you mean. I've been doing PPC for a long time and I'm addicted to the instant gratification. Waiting 5 days just to get a site indexed is not easy to do

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Kael41

15 years ago

One of the reports I made ages ago was targetted around seasonal adsense sites. Put it to you this way- way to many people get bogged down in the details. If you short on ideas of what to build a site around- pick a holiday. Then dig deep down into each of those niches and build a site around just that. I made a lot of my earlier money based on that concept. And it still works.

Had one site last year doing roughly $92/day during the October season.

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chestmary 15 years ago

Hi,

I doing John's adsense blueprint except I'm using wordpress with SimpleX theme, so I have a few questions

Using the adsense block as John suggests I'm still getting word wrap...

so is there a code to stop the word wrap?
I can put a zemanta pic next to the adsense block? or is that a violation of googles many rules?

Is zemanta worth using?

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- promo_guy 15 years ago
  
  Hi chestmary
  
  What I did to solve this issue was I put a div around my adsense code, for example:
  
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  Then in my stylesheet.css I put something like:
  
  .div {padding: 10px 300px 20px 0px;}
  
  This way I create a bit of padding so a) the Adsense block isn't too close to my page title or anything else that could go against G's TOS and b) by adding 300 pixels of padding it pushes anything to the right of the Adsense block down, if that makes sense.
  
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  Hi Promo,
  
  After floundering around trying to make so many turkeys make money and failing, simple is what I look for now so thanks for this solution.
  
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hamburglar

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kael41

One of the reports I made ages ago was targetted around seasonal adsense sites. Put it to you this way- way to many people get bogged down in the details. If you short on ideas of what to build a site around- pick a holiday. Then dig deep down into each of those niches and build a site around just that. I made a lot of my earlier money based on that concept. And it still works.

Had one site last year doing roughly $92/day during the October season.

That is excellent.

The seasonal sites do well. A client of mine made a site around olympics and he was pulling in around $200/day during the summer time. Now that is serious cash.

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promo_guy

15 years ago

Hi Mary

No problem. I was just going to say, if you're using an Adsense plugin to inject your adsense, then this solution can still work but it was under the premise that you were manually placing the code in your single.php or page.php.

I believe it would still work if you were using an Adsense plugin but I haven't tried.

Since I'm adding my adsense to my page.php, I use the div tag. However, there's a little bit of extra code to make sure Adsense doesn't show up on your About, Contact, etc. pages but only on your "money keyword" page(s).

If you get stuck in any way, just PM me and I'll help you out

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kingside

15 years ago

Quick question for those following xfactor's system. I started out with 4 out of my 5 sites ranking very well (first page) right when they were indexed for their terms. Since then my sites are indexed, but are completely buried for my keywords. I don't really understand the difference, the niches are not at all more competitive.

Is it just one of those peculiarities? Sometimes you're good to go straight away and sometimes you're buried and have to work your way up? Just want to be sure I'm not committing some grave errors or something.

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TristanPerry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by kingside

Quick question for those following xfactor's system. I started out with 4 out of my 5 sites ranking very well (first page) right when they were indexed for their terms. Since then my sites are indexed, but are completely buried for my keywords. I don't really understand the difference, the niches are not at all more competitive.

Is it just one of those peculiarities? Sometimes you're good to go straight away and sometimes you're buried and have to work your way up? Just want to be sure I'm not committing some grave errors or something.

Just sounds like the Google Dance (without knowing more exact time-frames in this)?

Also, the hosting set-up shouldn't affect anything. I host mine on (one of) my servers, it's not a bad thing, though, whether you use shared/VPS/dedicated.

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kingside 15 years ago

The timeframe is pretty small. The sites have only been indexed for 4-5 days, it was just weird to me that my initial handful of sites went straight to the top and my last few are buried. I will wait patiently .

I'll actually probably keep building links slowly and adding new content every couple of days. The most frustrating thing is that my digg story is still on the main page for one of my keywords, and I'm seeing traffic and adsense clicks from people getting routed to my site through that story! So I know when I hit the main page it'll be a nice little niche.

I'll keep ya updated.
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promo_guy

15 years ago

I don't work for google but my question to you kingside is are you hammering your new sites with articles, backlinks, etc.?

I ask because I have one site that started getting indexed about 2 weeks ago or so and it's not only on page 1 for the main keyword but for a variation of the keyword my site keeps climbing the SERPs.

So far, all I've done is add content on a daily basis, submitted my RSS feed, done VERY few bookmarks, placed my link on a small amount of sites, and that's it. What I've concluded is with new sites just take your time with getting backlinks, add a little bit of content each day, ping your site maybe twice a week max, etc.

It's only been 2 weeks so my site may do the Google Jig as well, but compared to hammering my sites with links right out the gate, this more subtle strategy seems to be working for me and it makes sense if you think about it.

What have you done to get backlinks? Btw, another site of mine showed up on pg 1 in G out of 65million results and I had maybe 5 backlinks. My keyword was in the domain but once I hammered it with backlinks *poof! it's gone, other than Yahoo lol

If the niche is hardly competitive, sometimes you don't need any links, or very few.

What's been your linking strategy? I'd be curious to know.

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kingside

15 years ago

Compared to most I'm not hammering the links at all. After I launch a new site I submit it to digg to get indexed, then submit 3-4 articles over the course of about a week. I also use OnlyWire to bookmark the site in about 4 places.

I'm trying to build links in a natural way, and in a way that let's me evaluate results before throwing more time / money at a site. That's hard to do that when I'm on page 12

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Out of curiosity are your sites on shared hosting? My first five sites are all on my VPS (private IPs and unique nameservers). These latest sites have been on Hostgator, so that makes me wonder a bit. I do know, though, that many people here use Hostgator, so it can't be in and of itself a serious long-term problem.

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promo_guy

15 years ago

I have my sites on my VPS too. I have about 8 hosting accounts and dozens of class C Ips but for now I'm using my main VPS all on the same ip/same nameservers.

Hmmm...not sure then.

The common answer is that it takes a while for sites to settle, or the google dance, or whatever. However, like I said, some of my sites once they get to page 1 never get bumped to page 50 or whatever UNLESS I do something like even semi-aggressive link building. But it sounds like your linking strategy is pretty safe.

My gut says it's not Hostgator. Unless of course your shared IP has been blacklisted. Do you interlink your sites to one another?

Anyway, it's all speculation at this point. You never know, tomorrow they could all be back to page 1

Sorry I couldn't be of more help

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TristanPerry

15 years ago

Yeah that is a bit strange. It's just the way it is sometimes. Some take a few days to get to the top, some take 5-7 days just to get indexed! (In my experiences)

It's just a waiting game really.

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Agent007

15 years ago

Further up this post it was mentioned that Google Adsense does not like us to use automated search ranking tools to see our website's ranking. so are you guys doing this manually?

Or is there an easier way other than just setting up the correct Google search URL for the keyword in an Excel spreadsheet and cut and pasting it into my browser?

Thanks. This is a great thread.

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warrior123 15 years ago

^^ nice spam attempt there sir.
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  ^^ nice spam attempt there sir.
  
  Yes, he has posted the exact same post in 3-4 different threads.
  
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goingup

15 years ago

Do you have to use WP or can you use any type of site builder you prefer?

Can you do this with CPA or affiliate products instead?

Once the site is up and you have submitted some articles, are you done with the site?
(set and forget).

Approximate time per site, including traffic generation?

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Soulofinfamy

14 years ago

It all comes down to taking action.

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agnelrollins194

14 years ago

For those using XSite Pro and looking for the best base model uses the speed and ease of use I would suggest "funny" model for a standard model of a part.

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Nulli Secundus

14 years ago

Wow that's pretty good success, I might just have to try out Xfactor's product and get in to adwords myself

anyway congratulations!

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dagaul101

14 years ago

Congrats on your success, it's always great to tweat things around and discover a potential to boost your income further

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