My amateur story as SEO-enthusiast- what i am doing wrong?

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Hello dears,
Let's start short - i've been building my ecommerce website based on Magento platform. I have heavily optimized it, edited and tweaked in order to get best performance score and fast loading speed.
Seems like i clearly doesn't understand ranking - let's share my experience.
My webpage that need to rank for particular word lets say just for that text "best seo" ranks at 20+ position. Best ranking was 8 for couple of days.
Comparing my webpage/website with the competitors at 2 position:
  1. Site performance based on Page Speed Insight: Much higher in all 4 measured elements (performance, accessibility, best practice, seo) both in mobile and desktop - higher like 40-50 points combined. My page hits almost anytime i check all 95-100.
  1. Backlink profile - My website have DA 18 - competitor 8, my have 36k backlinks from 220 domains, competitor have 6k from 164 domains - my backlinks are 99% text - competitor ones 99% image. I forbid hotlinking too - previously i have also spammy backlinks image type - all disavowed already. Toxicity 0. My source for the check is Semrush.
  1. Content - i have more than 25k characters content - definition, usage, howto, types and so on. Images too - structured well with headings and subheadings and paragraphs all "by the book" - my competitor have 2 sentences that repeat in top and bottom of the page - totally same sentences - copy/paste.
So moving from all three On-Page Seo, Technical part and Off-page Seo i totally dominated them. Spending thousands of hours to tweak and improve my website. Additionally i forgot to mention Server part - i use dedicated cloud VPS Linux based server with pretty powerful machine - they used shared hosting.

How and why they rank 2 and i rank 20+ for that keyword? Seems like there's no rules that Google follow, but just share and suggest false information if you follow their advises.

Give me advice - should i follow so-called guidelines of Google and all SEO articles out there?
#amateur #seoenthusiast #story #wrong
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  • Profile picture of the author Victorious21
    What about the UI/UX of the page?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonny2spoons
    Site structure is essential for ecommerce, make sure you have proper hierarchy and well organised listings.
    For onpage audits use Surfer SEO, you might have too much content or just not enough unique content. For offpage use AHREFS and between these 2 sites you should smash it.

    BTW, on backlinks he may be using PBNs which don't get picked up by tools like AHREFS.
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  • Profile picture of the author BigBen78
    from what information you provided I get the following feeling (could be wrong but need to see the actual project to further analyse):
    1. Backlinks: You have a lot of backlinks for the DA your site has. Always remember, that its not always better to have a big amount of links, quality is essential. For example, I would prefer 1 content link from washington post over 10 blog post links of medium sites. Some sites act as core sites. Links from these carry much more value than usual links. Do not go for cheap link building services and web 2.0 links. These can be used for parasite projects or other blackhat-ish projects.
    2. Content: Having large articles is not always best. yes, it raises the chance of including more entities that google can pick up, but if you did not plan the articles well its pure luck if they are included. Check the top ranking articles you want to compete with and cover everything the top 3 cover + make sure to check meronyms and hyponyms. Try to cover these (if it makes sense).

    Try to become an authority in your niche by creating well written, indepth articles. Also make sure to write the articles in an easy to understand way for googles crawlers. The cheaper it is for google to understand your content the higher the chances to rank. How Koray Tugberg put it: "It must be cheaper to rank you than not to rank you".
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  • Profile picture of the author Brett Higgins
    The links that you have, are they niche related. Or just spammy links?

    The age of the page could possibly be a factor?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Duncan
    Raditashev,

    If you have analytics installed, what is the Session Duration for that page? You might have to go back when it was ranked in the #8 position. How long did visitors stay on that page, and did they interact with it at all? (This data can be found in GA4, if you have that setup for your site.)

    Once your page is considered relevant for the search query, the next hurdle is to send the correct user engagement signals to Google. In effect, your visitors are voting with their time/clicks/scroll and tell Google if the page is a good match or not for that search query.

    A lot of this information came out with the Google antitrust case.

    This article links to, and goes over the court document. The key related concept here is NavBoost.

    "Navboost is trained on click data on queries over the past 13 months. Prior to 2017, Navboost was trained on the past 18 months of data."

    So, user behavior becomes a primary ranking factor, with this system.

    How about installing Microsoft Clarity on that page, and watch how users interact with the page. See if there are ways you can send more positive user signals to Google, and over time, that should correlate with a boost in your ranking, relative to the signals those competing pages are sending to Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author feronenab
    Ranking isn't just about perfect scores and backlinks. User engagement and content relevance play huge roles. Your competitor might be hitting the user intent better, even with less optimized content.
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  • Profile picture of the author pencil220
    oh have a lot of backlinks for the da your site has. quality is essential.
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  • Profile picture of the author OnlineProxy
    The challenge may lie in content alignment and search intent. While your site performs better in technical metrics, your competitor's content might be more closely aligned with what users are looking for, even if it's minimal. Consider revisiting your keyword strategy, ensuring your content matches search intent, and focusing on providing unique, valuable insights that truly engage your audience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gustaf
    You're missing an important detail when comparing your website to a competitor's - content quality. Content quality can't be measured by word count or the number of images, tables, lists, etc. That approach simply won't work here.

    It's also not accurate to compare the number of specific keywords or LSI words within the content. Instead, you need to look at how well visitors are engaging with your content. Key metrics are average session time, average page views, and bounce rate.

    It's also crucial for visitors to return to your site over time. All of this signals to Google that your content is valuable to visitors, which, in turn, boosts CTR and rankings.
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  • Profile picture of the author dave_hermansen
    There are hundreds of things that help or deter a website from ranking. You have touched on a few only.

    Although there are plenty of people here that think that backlinks are the be-all and end-all of ranking, recent years have shown that they are losing their "juice" to move a website - at least from the traditional ways people have been using to get links (The sheer volume of your backlinks - 36,000 - tells me that most of yours are garbage, incidentally).

    There are far too many examples of pages with excruciatingly slow page loading times that are ranking #1, #2 and #3 to ever take page speed as a serious SEO ranking consideration, despite what Google and SEO "gurus" may imply.

    Length of content is utterly irrelevant unless the context warrants it (which it rarely does unless you are explaining something highly complex). Concise information that fully answers a query will win out every time, which is where, as others have noted, user experience and the engagement and click behavior of those users seems to be the #1 thing dictating rankings these days. Sorry, but no SEO tool that I know of is able to measure that other than the incredible data that Google receives from its own Chrome browser and sites with Analytics installed (and Google does not divulge that information, except for your own site).

    Every search is different. Google has tons of data about which sites are delivering the best user experience for each and every query.

    Oh, and the age of a domain and the activity it has had over time appears to be a far larger ranking factor than many people think it is.
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