You Guys Have Got To See This!

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-50 penalty for 8+months. I've spent $65k to rebuild from top to bottom. Heavy heavy service. Still not ranking. - Webmaster Central Help
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  • Profile picture of the author miranon
    Wow!

    This guy must be desperate. Google can do everything they want these days, too bad that there is no competition in the search engine market today.
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  • Profile picture of the author AlbertB
    If you really want to increase your ranking in search engine you must do your best working with SEO or any form of online advertising in order to get web traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Man that smarts. I'm kinda guessing the guy either 1) didnt do his research or 2) got suckered in big time by someone...

    or probably a little of both?
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      He seems to insist he has been penalized, yet all evidence points to poor SEO. If you do poor SEO you are not singled out and penalized, you just haven't yet earned thhe ranking you desire.

      Words mean things and the word "penalty" is used incorrectly here. It's just another half-ass effort that doesn't deserve anything more than what's earned.
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      • Profile picture of the author thebitbotdotcom
        Originally Posted by dburk View Post

        He seems to insist he has been penalized, yet all evidence points to poor SEO. If you do poor SEO you are not singled out and penalized, you just haven't yet earned thhe ranking you desire.

        Words mean things and the word "penalty" is used incorrectly here. It's just another half-ass effort that doesn't deserve anything more than what's earned.
        A half-a** effort that he paid 65K for! Darn!
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
          Originally Posted by thebitbotdotcom View Post

          A half-a** effort that he paid 65K for! Darn!
          He spent it on making his website "pretty", not on any sort of SEO or effort to actually rank is site. Unfortunately, Google doesn't rank "pretty."
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          • Profile picture of the author miranon
            Originally Posted by Tom Goodwin View Post

            He spent it on making his website "pretty", not on any sort of SEO or effort to actually rank is site. Unfortunately, Google doesn't rank "pretty."
            Poor SEO? His domain has PR5 and almost 3k backlinks. What are you talking about?
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            • Profile picture of the author thebarksmeow
              Originally Posted by miranon View Post

              Poor SEO? His domain has PR5 and almost 3k backlinks. What are you talking about?
              What does page rank and off page backlinks have to do with on page "search engine optimization"?
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            • Profile picture of the author paulgl
              Originally Posted by miranon View Post

              Poor SEO? His domain has PR5 and almost 3k backlinks. What are you talking about?
              I beg to differ that it matters.

              Look at the first answer. I could not have said it better. In fact, I feel like a broken
              record when I say stuff like:
              One thing that is very important to us -- especially with sites that focus on affiliate sales -- is that there is a significant amount of unique and compelling content on your site.

              What I'm missing on those pages (and what I assume our algorithms are missing) is unique and compelling content. You have a lovely site, but it really helps to have more than a great design, to have unique and compelling content that users will want to refer their friends to. The overview pages appear to be images pulled from feeds (the shoes page is scary :-)), the product pages appear to only contain other data from feeds (such as the original descriptions). For our algorithms, this makes it hard for us to judge your site based on what makes your site special -- because it's hard to find that.
              $64k? The advice here is free. Follow any and all google webmaster guidelines, first.
              And stick with them.

              Or, invest $64K and stop worrying about google.

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              • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
                Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

                I beg to differ that it matters.

                Look at the first answer. I could not have said it better. In fact, I feel like a broken
                record when I say stuff like:


                $64k? The advice here is free. Follow any and all google webmaster guidelines, first.
                And stick with them.

                Or, invest $64K and stop worrying about google.

                Paul
                I think some of us need to consider getting into web design if this is the kind of coin one could make. Interestingly, I show 216 pages indexed in Google for the domain. Now, that is certainly more than most of my domains, but (1) if you look at them, there really isn't a lot of unique content there, (2) quite a few of them are just user profiles, and (3) I didn't spend $64k setting up the site
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                • Profile picture of the author Erik Ortega
                  A lot of them that I looked over had absolutely no content, just pictures. If I was in the hunt for bridal wear, I'd definitely look else where from this site. Didn't even have a product description... hmm, about to search elance for web design jobs! lol
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            • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
              Originally Posted by miranon View Post

              Poor SEO? His domain has PR5 and almost 3k backlinks. What are you talking about?
              Let me see....

              (1) The domain is OVER 9 years old.

              (2) High root domain PR does not equal good SEO. Not even close. Hell, if it was, he could have just spent $200 on a PR5 domain on GoDaddy and 301'd it to his domain and he would be at the top of Google for everything:rolleyes:

              (3) His overall backlink numbers are nothing. I would expect much more out of a 9+ year old site. Hell, I have 2 month old domains with more backlinks showing up in Yahoo Site Explorer. Obviously numbers don't mean anything, but if you look at his backlinks they aren't anything special.

              (4) The individual pages on his sites, you know, the pages he is actually trying to rank, have very few backlinks coming into them. If you check them out, they typically have anywhere from 1 to 14 external links coming in to them (with only a couple of notable exceptions)

              (5) The links that do come in to the individual pages -- a majority of them don't have the keyword as the anchor text, or even LSI-related keywords. Instead, they are either unanchored, or have the anchor text "Bridal People", "bridalpeople.com", or my personal favorite, "click here." That's sure gonna help him rank for his keywords baby.

              Please let me know if you need any more clarification on poor SEO :rolleyes: ...and this is only off-page stuff. I don't have the time nor urge to look into the on-page stuff (typically webdesign people are great at making "pretty" sites, but suck on on-page optimization).

              tom
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            • Profile picture of the author Brad Callen
              Originally Posted by miranon View Post

              Poor SEO? His domain has PR5 and almost 3k backlinks. What are you talking about?
              The fact that their are blatant errors, lack of features, and general random/dynamic content on a ton of pages. Another good reason to not place so much emphasis on total # of back links and PageRank my friend.


              If ever anyone tells you SEO is slowly dying just go ahead and point them at this site. 65k in Zimbabwe dollars?
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              • Profile picture of the author paulgl
                Originally Posted by Brad Callen View Post

                If ever anyone tells you SEO is slowly dying just go ahead and point them at this site. 65k in Zimbabwe dollars?
                ROTFLMAO!

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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Goodwin
        Originally Posted by dburk View Post

        He seems to insist he has been penalized, yet all evidence points to poor SEO. If you do poor SEO you are not singled out and penalized, you just haven't yet earned thhe ranking you desire.

        Words mean things and the word "penalty" is used incorrectly here. It's just another half-ass effort that doesn't deserve anything more than what's earned.

        Exactly. Perhaps if he had spent a portion of that $64k to work on backlinks he wouldn't be complaining that he can't rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    A good indicator of if you are under a penalty or filter is a google of your trademark or domainname less the extension. bridalpeople returns the domain at #1...

    The site just isn't that great and they don't have the budget to make up for this with quality backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author skoh
    facepalm, facepalm














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