Has anybody actually tried a deindexed blog network on a competitor?

14 years ago

Havent tried it , but you best believe its happening all day everyday.

Dog eat dog , wild west style out there , be careful

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LloydC

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Fraser SellHealth

Havent tried it , but you best believe its happening all day everyday.

Dog eat dog , wild west style out there , be careful

Very true, that's the reason I've decide to shift the main source of my income away from SEO, it's just too risky. One day everything will be going fine and then SLAP, everything's gone.

I'd much rather take a lower, but stable income anyday.

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Fraser SellHealth

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LloydC

Very true, that's the reason I've decide to shift the main source of my income away from SEO, it's just too risky. One day everything will be going fine and then SLAP, everything's gone.

I'd much rather take a lower, but stable income anyday.

i like your theory what do you use / suggest then ?

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LloydC

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Fraser SellHealth

i like your theory what do you use / suggest then ?

Theres plenty of other ways to make money without google, article writing, flipping sites etc etc.

Heck even just be creative, Remember the million dollar homepage?

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Fraser SellHealth

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LloydC

Theres plenty of other ways to make money without google, article writing, flipping sites etc etc.

Heck even just be creative, Remember the million dollar homepage?

No doubt there are millions of ways to make money online but lets face it Big G makes up 90% of those methods , unless you like working on fiverr

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Troy_Phillips

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Fraser SellHealth

No doubt there are millions of ways to make money online but lets face it Big G makes up 90% of those methods , unless you like working on fiverr

90% .. no

Now admittedly Google has many dogs in the race but ... there are so many sources of traffic that doesn't start at Google .. anyone who can think just a tad out of the box can do very well.

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Fraser SellHealth

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips

90% .. no

Now admittedly Google has many dogs in the race but ... there are so many sources of traffic that doesn't start at Google .. anyone who can think just a tad out of the box can do very well.

elaborate ? lets hear the equal traffic sources other then google that can be monetized by affiliates ?

love to hear this one

waiting :rolleyes:

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Troy_Phillips 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Fraser SellHealth

elaborate ? lets hear the equal traffic sources other then google that can be monetized by affiliates ?

love to hear this one

waiting :rolleyes:

Well there is a little thing called leveraging list of those that already have a list.

You can also build your own list in this manner. Let's see ... some list building techniques that does not include Google.

Writing well enough to get published to high member e-zines

Doing a free WSO here

Doing a war room post that gives away a product (no opt in) but having a link to an opt in for a relevant freebie inside the product.

Your sig file here can get a lot of sign ups a day if you offer value and not one liners.

Face book is huge and growing.

Twitter works if you target your followers

100% affiliate commission products

Real press releases

Telephone pit crews

Several PPC .. PPV ...CPA .. networks .. you know .. some of those refuse to let you promote via SEO

Paid postings on traffic exchanges with ads either offering free traffic, free tools, or other things surfers feel will help their business. You don't even need to buy placement if you really like to click your eyeballs out .. not for me but not kicking it.

Leveraging those that bust their butts to get rankings.

Yahoo and Bing .. you just need to realize the optimization is a completer flip flop to Google.

Blog commenting and guest blogging on power blogs that would still have thousands of regulars if G died today

And believe me .. that is just a tip of the non Google Iceberg.

Then there is things I don't care to elaborate on because everyone and their pet monkey does not know about like

Master of Geeks ( this one alone built me a list of over 20,000 about 14 months ago in less than 60 days) I am about to apply it to the IM field because it will work better in this niche than it did in the non im niche I built the other list in.
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Bill Farnham 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Fraser SellHealth

elaborate ? lets hear the equal traffic sources other then google that can be monetized by affiliates ?

love to hear this one

waiting :rolleyes:

Ummm...the WSO section here coupled with an email list?

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- tpw 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Fraser SellHealth
  
  elaborate ? lets hear the equal traffic sources other then google that can be monetized by affiliates ?
  
  love to hear this one
  
  waiting :rolleyes:
  
  Originally Posted by Bill Farnham
  
  Ummm...the WSO section here coupled with an email list?
  
  ~Bill
  
  I know people who are killing it with FaceBook than can make Google-worshipers worry about how Google just isn't cutting it anymore....
  
  Then there is paid traffic... Yeah, but then again, maybe I am just an optimist...
  
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Rob Howard

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Fraser SellHealth

elaborate ? lets hear the equal traffic sources other then google that can be monetized by affiliates ?

love to hear this one

waiting :rolleyes:

You're right.

No business ever existed before Google got off the ground.

Google is like some sort of God. When Google formed, doing business finally became a possibility...

Rob

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mosthost

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Rob Howard

You're right.

No business ever existed before Google got off the ground.

Google is like some sort of God. When Google formed, doing business finally became a possibility...

Rob

LOL. How true. F G.

Nobody needs these G-uys to make a living. Sure, 'free traffic' helps, but there are other sources.

In fact, Google is a source of poor traffic for many people trying to sell products. There are lots of competitors, bots, and tire kickers in there.

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mike martin 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Fraser SellHealth

i like your theory what do you use / suggest then ?

Thats the thrill of SEO mate, i have a team of staff working directly for me through work i do on SEO, and yes i worry everyday that if my ranks drop i would be ruined, but that just makes me work harder
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Troy_Phillips

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LloydC

Very true, that's the reason I've decide to shift the main source of my income away from SEO, it's just too risky. One day everything will be going fine and then SLAP, everything's gone.

I'd much rather take a lower, but stable income anyday.

Lower but stable income .... very few 6 and 7 figure marketers think twice about Google from the natural search side.

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webapex

14 years ago

This Guy at AffHelper.com reproduced an Unnatural Links Warning email from Google regarding links and a similar domain name someone appeared to create, he goes on to rant a length about the apparant favortism for sites with big Adsense traffic.

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Troy_Phillips

14 years ago

What you are talking about is reverse SEO. While I could care less about my competition ranking wise .. many out there would have no problem doing it. That is why if everyone will just pump their brakes for a minute ... this latest update will go away or Google will lose so much credibility another search engine will take over.

Let a few Fortune 500's go down the tubes ranking wise and see if the investors don't change G's mind.

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mike martin

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Troy_Phillips

What you are talking about is reverse SEO. While I could care less about my competition ranking wise .. many out there would have no problem doing it. That is why if everyone will just pump their brakes for a minute ... this latest update will go away or Google will lose so much credibility another search engine will take over.

Let a few Fortune 500's go down the tubes ranking wise and see if the investors don't change G's mind.

I was starting to panic, but you are right, this cant continue, so lets all carry on as normal and they will change their minds back eventually

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daisy172 14 years ago

It wouldn't work. By definition, if a network is de-indexed, Google are no longer crawling it, and so will not even notice whether you have posted links to your rival's site. Because the network is dead to them.

Save your time and trouble and concentrate on your own sites.
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tpw

14 years ago

If it is already deindexed, then why would it make any difference at all?

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rodanglee

14 years ago

nope.. but you can do it with SOON-TO-BE-DEINDEXED blogs of which I know a lot.

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14 years ago

Troy_Phillips

Pretty good list. I would agree some of them you will really need to work to get it where it needs to be but it will work.

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Troy_Phillips 14 years ago

Originally Posted by SEOExpert999

Pretty good list. I would agree some of them you will really need to work to get it where it needs to be but it will work.

Once you get a squeeze page, that is suitable for the traffic source, converting at it's peak .. there is really no real work to any of the sources.

I am not kicking Google or SEO. This time last year we had almost 400 blogs in our own network .. spread over several servers and three continents. That was not counting hundreds of support web 2.0 and other filters.

If the filters are placed correctly .. although I have no proof as in this working as we speak, I really don't think all these updates will effect people. Those that thought they could direct mass link or link to 200 sites on their own server is the ones getting busted.

I have no wish to build and maintain that many sites ever again .. that is a lot of work but smaller SEO funnels are not out of question for us.
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Feydakin

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LloydC

With all this commotion about SEO link monster causing peoples sites to tank, and all the popular blog networks being de-indexed. People have been saying now you actually CAN get competitors penalized. I'm just wondering if anyones actually tried it?

Just interested.

It's been possible for years. We were able to do it to a few test sites as much as 6 years ago. It's just gotten a LOT easier now.

As for Google being 90% of anything, we always work hard to make Google less than 20% of our overall business strategy, for ourselves and for clients. Any time Google crosses that line we head back out looking for new and better way to generate traffic and sales.

But with sites like Pinterest coming along, Google isn't even 2% of our traffic any more. We lived just fine before there were SEs, we'll be just fine when they finally are replaced by the next big thing.

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yukon

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Originally Posted by LloydC

With all this commotion about SEO link monster causing peoples sites to tank, and all the popular blog networks being de-indexed. People have been saying now you actually CAN get competitors penalized. I'm just wondering if anyones actually tried it?

Just interested.

You better hope that your sites don't have any similar type links.

What are you going to do If you get a network deindexed & you just happened to have links on the same network?

The actual sites in the network don't advertise which network it is (well, the good networks don't).

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mike martin

14 years ago

I really cant believe that google would be so stupid to allow people to de index or destroy the competition. if its taking people down it cant be long until google changes this rule otherwise de indexed blog sites will be making more money than indexed sites in the future. I got stung with the SEO LINK MONSTER on my Locksmith Manchester site it hasnt dropped and fortunately its still on the first page for keyword Locksmith Manchester and Manchester Locksmiths