Try to DEFEND your GOOGLE here.

Awesome! I laughed so hard

Yes there are a handful of bad results. Google has been cleaning them up.

Who seriously searches for "buy new pants"

That's funny!

I'm sure someone will appear soon to defend Google.

When this Penguin update first happened, I thought my computer had a virus and my search results were hijacked.

First of all, who would do a search for buy new pants. Secondly I think google still provides a relevant search return. The only people who do not like it is Internet Marketers.

Do you really think that google wants its user to come a across A bunch of 5 page MFA sites or would they rather want an authority site that will encompass everything in that niche.

Instead of coming up with stupid search terms that google happened to return one or two bad websites for a crappy search term, How about working on your website that provides a user experience and Answers what the searcher wants.

9/10 relevant results for me.

You guys going to go build a business now or what?

HOLY F!

Warrior forum is about discussions. This thread is placed in the SEO section of the forum (ie. it's about "search engines). Who the #%#@ cares if this one thread is productive or not. Why can't you post in a forum just to discuss the latest events of what you're interested in.

Whether it affected your business positively or negatively, the Penguin update is a BIG DEAL in the world of SEO. For goodness sakes, it's completely fair and relevant to discuss the success of an algorithm update.

@ The unnecessary hecklers

Why waste time by criticizing a warrior's willingness to rant or discuss current events. It's not like you're being any more productive by wasting time criticizing.

@ the OP

I typed in the search term "buy new pants"

If I was looking to buy new pants, I would have found absolutely NOTHING worth clicking on. I agree that Google has messed up a good portion of there search results temporarily. I'm not a Google hater though, and I would expect them to fix the problems ASAP.

No one searches for "buy new pants", sorry bro. You don't have an argument there. There's a very good chance that they are categorizing search queries in some way (related to popularity perhaps) and then filtering results for real phrases that users search for/use. Obviously this is pure speculation, but so is your argument - baseless.

I'm all for a good discussion, but you have to step up your game a bit.

This is indefensible. Thanks to Google's heartlessness we now have no idea where to go to clothe ourselves. Surely this is a global crisis? We're all going to be without new pants... forever!

Check out 'buy used pants' and 'purchase soiled pants' too.

Yeh it's pretty weird, I think Google will update a different code soon but someone said don't just rely on Google and rankings - this is very important - there are load more other and better ways to get business to your site.

I like how all you guys saying they are "wasting" their time, while you are wasting your own time by reading this thread which you deemed unproductive. Not only reading, you decide to put in your .02 in, which is just regurgitated and spun BS with comments like "build your business", or "i'm working on making money, not doing silly, useless searches for bogus terms". <- LOL

Does this forum make you money by reading it and posting the same ole BS replies when people ask about Google Penguin. I don't think so... Why don't you go build your business then and save your unproductive and useless comments if you're just trying to bash the OP...

^^^The irony is palpable.

Exactly. I'd find a better search query than one that gets 260 global searches per month. We aren't exactly talking about hard hitting stuff here.

I don't know why you guys try to defend Google soooo muchhhh. The basic idea when Allen created this forum was simple, for average people to be able to make money from Internet.

So a lot of marketers come to this forum to figure out a way together how to make money from Internet. From marketer's standpoint of course a lot of marketers or business owners get upset when their years of hard works were vanished in just one night.

I believe that scrappy contents are deemed to get punished. But this is not fair to punish perfectly quality websites just because somewhere in the past, years ago, they got back links from blog comments.

There are actually high quality websites out there where people put a lot of money and time to create the content. Those websites get penalized just because some blog comments that were done years ago. You can check some examples of these websites from Google Webmaster Forum.

Imagine, when you are death and someone judge you that you need to go to hell just because on one rainy day when you were 7 years old you stole candy from your classmate.

If you don't like the thread you don't need to make any comment or even better you can become a moderator in Google webmaster forum so you get paid to defend their brand.

Lol. Actually I've noticed quite a few 404's in results recently. That should almost never happen.

From end users point of view, still they may not notice such poor & irrelevant results from Google at this point, but on long run, it may lead Google to loose it market to other search engines.

Dude, the algorithm is software a software program. Google achieving putting out bug results is not a realistic goal. It's all about overall improvement toward their goal and vision.

Beside that, you need to look at the result quality data on 1,000 to 10,000's or more keywords to even approach a relevant sample size.

EDIT: To add to the discussion look at the results on the whole, what do they tell you?. The obvious thing that stands out looking at them for just a minute or 2 is that they are devaluing most types of forced optimization. (the line in the sand between a webmaster and an SEO)

I'd focus on the idea of "natural optimization" and "user optimization" as the pillar for my own long term SEO...

I wouldn't be surprised If Google will flip the switch & revert back to a similar (not same) algo. after the majority of IMers get pissed off & make major edits to their sites/links.

Anyone that thinks Google will lose market share to Bing is not thinking clearly.

Bing is like AOL, they'll eventually fade away, then one day someone in their late 80's will say "Remember that search engine that Microsoft once had, how's that working out?".

Opinions does not mean anything to me. True, Google still has market share but opinion polls suggest Bing brings in equivalent results. With that said, Google was voted most trusted as a brand. To those who argue against op, buy new pants is not the only phrase bringing in garbage. I love how some of you know exactly how main stream searchers think and whether they are pleased with results as if you've done some statistical analysis. I love how you know how it only affects non marketers. You actually know absolutely nothing. Nothing at all. What a joke.

This is some examples of some legitimate websites that get penalized after penguin
Google “Penguin” Update Punishes Quality Web Sites

The very title of this thread - "Try to DEFEND your GOOGLE here." is ridiculous. I'm sorry, but how can anyone take this thread seriously?

I get it - some of you lost sites/money and are feeling the sting right now. Your options are pretty clear - either re-build, change to a different business model or pack up and go back to 9-5.

The truth is that most of you couldn't even land a decent 9-5, while most of the successful IMers (that I personally know) can send out CV's today and have £35-£45k/year jobs by mid next week. Yes, in this "tough economy". It's not that bad actually. That should tell you something, and I don't mean to be condescending at all. I really, really enjoy helping others.

Most of you see IM as a dream of riches, easy money and lazy days doing **** all. You don't even know WHY you want those things, you just "kinda" want them. So you "kinda" create a half assed plan and "sort of" go at it. Which, in most cases, means either selling ****ty info products, brokering forum SEO packages and claiming to be local SEO experts or buying ****ty "ready made" minisites along with a couple cheap SEO packages and hoping to flip them later on. None of those things are real businesses.

And now back to the "build a real business" discussion. Yes, go and ****ing build a business. Take some time away and think everything through - your goals, WHY you want to achieve them, HOW you're going to get there, exactly how long it might take and what resources you need. Have realistic expectations and THINK about diversification right from the beginning. Should you be building a list? Flipping sites asap? Reinvesting heavy in bigger projects that are more self sufficient?

And most importantly - can you afford to start a business? Do you have enough funds to last you at least 6-12 months? Do you have a family to feed? Are the any other people who depend on you to put food on the table, pay the bills, etc? Do you have the inner strength to wake up early every single morning for six months, without a single day off, and work your ass off without wasting time on forums, blogs and facebook? Do you have a strong sense of responsibility and are going to be able to provide for all those who depend on you without getting depressed like a little sucker when **** doesn't go your way? Maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't be trying to build a business. It's not for everyone.

Think about your situation very well before you make any rash decisions (or go posting rants on random forums). Can you afford to waste those precious 5 mins (face it, for most of you it's more like 3 hours/day) complaining about algo changes here? Is there anyone out there thinking that you're hard at work, doing everything in your power to bring in some money or "make this business/internet thing work"?

I've been through all this crap myself at one point and let me tell you - until you fundamentally change the way you view "making money" (be it online or working for someone else) - you will never be successful in life.

Well it's true that google's result sucks. I was hoping bing will capitalize on that.

I was watching bing results vs google results, after penguin noticed that bing results are infinite better than google results.

As days passes, same irrelevant sites that top results in google are beginning to show up in bing.

So i guess it's unrealistic to expect bing to challenge google when they copy results like that.

Conclusion : suck it up, buckle up and dance how google's singing.