New Google algorithm update was pushed few minutes ago..

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Hey guys,

A new Google algorithm update has been pushed few mins ago, I noticed I lost rankings for few positions which is fine but I would like to see the impact on others
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  • Put your head between your legs and kiss your a** goodbye everyone
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    • lol well depending on Google is dangerous and this is one of the last sites that I am dealing with..I really don't care but I want to see the impact because Google said its impacting only 0.3% of the English sites
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  • My rankings have jumped, so I'm happy.
  • I think it has been hitting for a few hours.. I have been experiencing record high traffic.
  • Congrats to the winners and my condolences to those on the losing end. With two Google updates each and every day of the year, it's tough to get excited anymore.
  • Google will keep updating until all those who can afford to pay buy ads from them. Getting relevant organic results is getting more and more difficult with each passing update.
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    • Google has redesigned their web page to de-emphasize the organic search so much that the traffic sources keep dwindling too. It's pay for play time.
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    • Actually it is very very easy to get solid consistent organic traffic from Google, every update is like getting a few high PR links for free.
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  • What is your secret?
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    • Thanks for sharing. Didn't know articles still worked.
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  • Honestly I got sick from depending on Google, I only look at 1 website and once I lose all the rankings then I am done with it. I believe the amount and effort we put is not worth it..if I really want to make real money then I need to create a real product and depend on "word of mouth" which is the best marketing technique
  • I'm experiencing increases across a range of client sites in the serps.
  • Actually, I dont believe it was an algorithmic update but rather a data refresh which isnt the same thing. To answer your question though, I have 1 site that is bouncing around but almost everything else is fairly stable at the point in time.
  • Update on my end: Traffic is looking good. What can I say? I have really good mentors that I didn't pay a single dime for. YAYUH!!!!!!
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    • While I have never had a mentor nor paid but I do own a lot of thanks to everyone who has ever posted. I take that info with research in google plus a lot of testing and trying different stuff to find a success
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    • Care to share some tips for those of us who aren't as fortunate to have any mentors
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  • hehehe. I dont know how I ended up here cause I stopped caring for Google as Google dont give a shit for me. So yah I just focus on high quality. Screw Google.
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    • If you don't care about google you must have a business that makes good money without google ranking!

      Those of us who depend on google for ranking CAN'T stop caring about google.

      (Yes I know: we need to get our traffic elsewhere... Easier said than done.)
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    Actually I think it won't get much worse:

    - EMD benefit is gone
    - Poor grammar/spelling will hurt you
    - Excessive use of affiliate links or advertisements punishes you
    - No anchor variety will bite you
    - Poor distribution of low pr vs high pr will get you screwed

    5 simple rules to follow people, how hard can it be?

    We're just dealing with an algorithm, not some super human!

    Actually it can be hard cause everyone depends on:

    - the EMD bonus
    - $5 articles
    - poor monetizing skills
    - only focusing on 1 keyword per site
    - software that only creates pr n/a links

    Now the solution:

    - use branded domains
    - run your articles through grammar/spelling check tools
    - don't use affiliate links on your homepage and/or limit it to max 2 links per page
    - build somewhat larger sites with 20+ pages so you can target more keywords
    - start buying expired domains to get high PR links or buy them from services if it's to much work
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    • Actually not even dealing with a stupid human.. just an algorithm
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    • I think you're talking out of your you know what
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      My friends web design site had all of that and he still got wiped out.
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  • I have an exact match domain and I lost rankings on 4 keywords that were on p1. They didn't just drop but went from p1 to beyond page 30!

    This is what p*sses me off about google. It's one thing to lower your rankings, but quite another to take your rankings and completely obliterate them.

    Another thing: Google COULD tell people ahead of time: "Look, this is what we're trying to minimize or eliminate and we're going to put out an algorithm change dealing with it in 2 months. So in the interest of cleaning up what we don't like, here's what this is about..."

    But no, they'd rather just completely EFF you and have you wake up one day and find your income-producing site is now gone.

    Now, with this latest effing of my site, this is a GOOD page. It has no spam. It has information - accurate information about water filters, comparing them and letting an intelligent consumer make his/her choice based on facts, data, reviews and so on.

    So why would google punish such a site just because I happen to have given it an exact match domain?

    And here's the really WEIRD part! : The keyword of the EMD is the ONLY keyword that did NOT get yanked. It's the other keywords - of much higher traffic - that were obliterated from the SERPS.

    Gawd, I can't tell you how much I hate google. And not just for this but for many things. Don't even get me started!
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    • Actually, Google had indicated about a year ago that they were looking at a solution to the EMD problem.

      As far as other major updates, Google has pretty much always preached that spammy backlinks and poor content are a bad idea. Panda and Penguin just brought the algorithm more in line with what they had always been stating.
  • This update sure killed my sites.

    Anyone care to explain what's a data refresh? How often does it happen? Does google re-evaluate your site and your link profile to determine whether to penalize your site or not?
  • Here is a post about the new algo update from SEOmoz
  • Wolffmmii, If noone is promoting an Amazon product, that usually means it has few buyers, and few exact match searches. How do you find buyers then?
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    • I don't care about exact match searches. I never even look at keyword tools. The number of buyers is not related to the number of people promoting any given product. I post product reviews and most of them rank very easily. Some will get lots of traffic and some will get none. In the end, I get lots of targeted traffic that converts.
  • How do you know this for sure?
  • I noticed blogspot and epinions/consumer reports are taking over many positions so Google gave them more authority even tho some of them pay for ads...I am not complaining since if I am using Google and they offer the service for free then I have no right to tell them what to do
  • It is getting difficult to keep up with all the Google updates and changes they keep roll out. One day Google is cool with something, and the next they decide otherwise. What or when will the next fairly big change happen? Who knows. They keep us guessing that's for sure.
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    • There really is nothing to keep up with. When I first explained to GGPaul how I was doing things, he was a bit skeptical as are most people but in the end, he had some faith and ran with what I was telling him. He is very successful with it now.

      What did I tell him?

      I told him:
      • to target low-comp products because since nobody else is promoting those, Google is practically begging for content for those products.
      • to provide helpful content and not even necessarily lots of it. A few hundred words is usually sufficient. The content he provides should help the user and make the user want to come back again.
      • to stick with niches he knows. If you know nothing about hammer drills, you can't possibly provide any kind of valuable information or opinions.
      • to stop worrying about backlinks and worry about content instead.
      • to post content consistently to keep the spiders coming back frequently.

      He followed this advice to a "T" and is now reaping the rewards.

      Do these same things and there is nothing from Google to "keep up with". You are doing exactly what they've been asking for for years.
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  • Code:
    https://twitter.com/mattcutts/status/254335294063656960
    The change only affect 0.3% of all websites. Well, that means 99.9% of websites belongs to WF members will be affected. Everybody start whining now.
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  • My rankings has gone up with every new update.So i don't want to play a blame game.
  • My sites ranking has increased 2 positions up. Not much of a difference still getting 400-450 visitors a day. also its weird my other site has dropped to the second page.
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    • Got my fingers crossed. My sites and client sites are either holding or moving up . About half are just like any other day though.
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  • It's nothing new to me because Google keeps updating from the day I started Internet marketing and I always notice up and downs for my all of my sites.
  • Headless chickens on their way.
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    • LOL your right about that!

      Anyway, it would also appear that they have targeted a few different linking schemes like Spam Gone Wild. So if you have blasted your site with that its likely your experiencing changes in the serps.
  • your website improve ranks if you build back-links as per Google guideline.
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    • Don't tell me you learned that in some SEO Diploma Course?
      Errrrrr.....Headless chickens!
  • so what is this update all about? what do we need to watch out for?
  • They are all product reviews mate. But all are well researched; we don't allow "beating around the bush" type of content. We look at what the consumers ask and talk about each product and focus our reviews on those points.

    The sites generally start slow, but after a certain number of posts and around the 1-1.5 month mark, they gain traction. In the end, the site ends up with 100s of keywords on top 10 without a single link (except for Onlywire, which I assume is what Wolf is also using).

    Like Wolf, I don't look at keywords at all; just focus on products and creating good reviews.

    PS: And our reviews are not 1000+ word reviews, we generally use reviews between 300-500 words that focus on the important stuff without any filler text.
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    • Got it. Now I see why you don't need links. I assume you're targeting new products or if they're existing products, a different angle. Like "Anyone tried the Model X yet?" etc. Thanks for the insight. I've never really messed with Amazon but you guys are making it sound almost too easy
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  • Banned
    Can anyone prove EMD benefit is gone? There are many debates around in the internet marketing forum but... answer is??....
  • Hello,
    yes Penguin 3 update and many effect on website who use low quality links and content.
  • One last question, just so I absorb all the needed info. If you were targeting this products: Donut Shop Medium Roast, K-Cup for Keurig Brewers, what would your 'keyword focus' be on and what would the title be?
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    • My titles would be Donut Shop Medium Roast Reviews and K-Cup for Keurig Brewers Review. Then I'd use variations of those as H2 and H3, etc.

      I wouldn't target any specific keywords, but probably end up getting traffic from a lot of keywords like K-Cup reviews, K-Cup for Keurig reviews, etc. At least that has been the case with all our reviews so far.

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  • Hahaha another Penguin update! What's next??
  • It would appear the only EMD sites that took a hit also had thin content, though it still may be too early to tell for sure.
  • So, I have a domain name matched to my main keyword. I have thick content around that keyword, plus the name of the business is the keyword. My website dropped not only from page one, for this specific word, but from the #1 spot to.. page 28. The keyword has around 90k local searches a month, it's a local business. In addition, my website dropped from first page for 50+ keywords. There are maybe a couple of keywords that placed themselves on page 2. Everything else page 10+. Interestingly enough, I have no backlinks for 99% of those keywords. I have content, that I wrote myself and posted on the website. I am not hug on SEO. I have read a whole lot of books, I do my on page SEO and I don't spam. The rest of my competitors have...20,000+ backlinks...if you follow some of them you get the PR 1 web forum posts or blog comments that make no sense "hi, i love your post BUY CHEAP DOG FOOD on quantum mechanics...". I have.. around 260 backlinks.
    I guess I am just blowing off steam, i wouldn't really call this a constructive post. My website, is an online store, if that matters. Seeing the garbage that my competitors do, SEO wise, I don't understand what google really punishes with their updates. Why didn't I drop a couple of positions, but 10s of pages? I am starting to think that this is personal. Maybe I bullied Larry Page as a kid, i don't know.
    Is there a way to recover from this? Should I just register a new domain name and begin ranking for it? Sell the business?
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    • I sympathize and empathize.
      I think it's kind of arrogant for those who are NOT hit by an algorithm change to just assume that everyone who was hit, deserved to be hit. That was not the case with Penguin and it is not the case with this one.

      My sites always have well written content which I spend hours putting together, yet one site was KILLED by Penguin (apparently due to some bad backlinks a SEO co. made for me but I thought they were white hat, only to find out they weren't. But penguin was supposed to be about "web spam" which my sites were not. (Maybe the links were though.)

      But this time one of my sites was killed again and that site had no spammy links and has great content, but google apparently decided to punish me ONLY because of an exact match domain...?!

      To those who have not been hit: Google sucks and I imagine that if you have not been hurt by google yet, some day you will be. When you are, you won't like hearing people say "you deserved it", especially if you didn't.
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  • Does anyone else use Google Webmaster tools to see what the average position is for the keywords you are targeting?

    My site lost its rankings at the end of September, but in Google Webmaster tools, it still has my keywords listed as being in the positions they were in before my rankings dropped.
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    • WMT defaults to a range of a month, so you're still seeing your average over the last month. if your ranking dropped end of Sept, change your range from that date on. Look to the right, near the top.
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  • My SEO Specialist is Awesome! I got #1 and #2 Position on this new Algorithm! Yeah Boy!
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    • It's not useless at all. It just gave you your 13rd link to your CCTV site. Expect sudden surge of traffic from Google very shortly.

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    • You probably should be reading every thread ever created based on what I see...
  • I'm not sure there is anyone high-fiving. You sound bitter.

    I'm not sure why you think review sites would be de-indexed but you are entitled to your opinion.
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