How you can have too a high pr links renting service and make $10.000/month

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Hello all,

I decided to create this thread as a result of seeing how my competitors, or whatever i don't even call them competitors, how other people that sell high pr links act in this forum.

For some reason, they think they can go in other people's threads and destroy them using false accusations just so that they get all the clients. Competition sucks huh??? There was a time when there were not so many high pr links sellers but, now this is a fashion......and everybody forgot about manners and integrity, everybody trying to get their bread with one or two clients extra that they would get if that competition wasn't there.

I am not bothered sincerely as selling high pr links was never one of my main income sources, what bothers me is how a person thinks that creating a new account and posting some bull...t on other peoples threads is going to help them.

So that is why i decided to let everyone know how you too can start your own PR business in maximum a week and start making money out of it. now others might even sell this as a special offer.....but hey...this is not magic knowledge or some highly intelligent thing ......so why not let everybody know how to do it? In case you didn't know already. I for sure would love to see more people selling this links, and not all the money going to just a few...

1. This is not some magic business that comes out with spending just 1$ or something.
2. Is not going to make you a millionaire, but it can bring you a decent amount of money, enough to give you a good wage.

The way i created this business is most likely the same way almost everybody did it........and i myself have right now around 150 clients bringing me around 6000$. Like i said not life changing......

Number 1: You need a registercompas account. This site is great and it basically gives you all the information you need regarding the high pr domains. Is not that cheap though. Is around 40$ or so a month, i'm not sure. Anyway without it, buying domains would be 100000 times harder. you can sign up here for an account: Search for Domains with Pagerank at Registercompass i do not have any connection with this site, nor do i try to promote it in any way).

Number 2: After you signed up you go in "Domain Search" and start searching for high pr domains. Now it depends on the type of pr sites you wish to add to your network. Almost everybody on warrior forum sells pr 3 and pr 4 sites. And almost everybody sells around 20 high pr links.

Let's just say you want to buy 20 pr 3 and pr 4 sites. In "domain search" you search first for pr 3 sites. you have 3 options regarding the auction registrar. Godaddy, Namejet or Snapnames. Each has its own advantages and disadvantages.

With Namejet and Snapnames the minimum bid for a domain in auction is 69$ i think. But they give you the domains next day after you win them whereby with godaddy sometimes if your lucky you can get pr3 and 4 for less then 69$ but it takes like 8 days or so for the domain to get active in your account.

Most of the times you can get decent pr 3 and pr 4 sites for only 69$ considering noone else will bid on that domains, which is very possible, as there are not so many people bidding there compared with Godaddy. I myself can tell you from my own experience i never paid more then 100$ on a pr 3 or 4 using namejet or snapnames.

When i say decent pr 3,4 i mean a domain that has a DA of at least 20 and a PA of at least 30. to be honest recently i only purchased domains that have DA over 30 and PA over 40. All this metrics are viewable in registercompas. But to be sure a domain it is what it sais it is there are certain steps you need to take in order to ensure yourself you will not get scammed.

1: check each domain with a pr checker such as Check Page Rank! | Check Google Page Rank!. This site usually lets you know if the PR is valid or fake. But to be even more sure after you checked the pr with them you can also go on google and input the following terms: info:domainname.com If the result that shows is the domain you searched about then the pr is real, if another site address appears means the pr is fake.

2. put the domain into opensiteexplorer.com
you use open site explorer to ensure that the domain has a good DA and PA. Sometimes when you input just domainname.com it might just give you a high DA but a PA of 1. This might be because that domain has more links on the www. version of it. so in cases like this you add www. at the start of your domain name and see what the results are then. If the PA increases to over 30 or whatever standards you have then is still a good domain to purchase.

3. You check your domain with MajesticSEO. I usually do this to double check the citation flow and trust flow and also to see how many referring domains my root domain has.
I usually never buy domains that have a trust flow lower then 10. Also when you check the referring domains make sure they are quite a few. As sometimes there are domains with 50000 external links or something huge but only 5 or 10 or something really small in referring domains. Let's say i would never purchase a domain that has less then 30 referring domains. I usually aim toward having only domains that have at least 100 referring domains as having 100 is the minimum amount for having a "moderate" pr domain. Less then 100 means your high pr domain is a weak one.

It all depends on the quality you want to offer clients, and i must say many people on this forum offer weak pr domains, as i bought myself in the past a few services and they were not high quality.....and it still made them money, probably it still does.

The terms "external backlinks" and "referring domains" can be found in Majestic SEO when you input your domainname.com in the search box.

I also like to check the links of the domain in Majestic SEO. I usually check if the links were built over a decent period of time or all in 1 day or so, as spam sites sometimes have all their links built in 2,3 days.

4. Make sure the site your are about to bid on is indexed in Google. you would not want to buy a site is not indexed. To check for this you go in Google and in the search field you input the following terms: site:domainame.com

In the results it should appear at least the homepage address of your site. If nothing appears, means that site is not indexed and you do not want to bid on it!!

this are the basic things you need to check in order to make sure the domain is worth bidding on. There are a few some more advanced things, but not worth mentioning.

Number 3: When you found a decent domain you go bid on them. In Godaddy there are tons of pr 3 and pr 4. Some sell more expensive then others but there are plenty you can get cheap. When you like a domain, you can just input the max amount you would pay for it, let's say max 100$. It does not mean you will pay 100$. That means that is your max bid, so that you don't have to always look if somebody bid more then you. Same with Namejet or Snapnames. you just input 69$ their minimum and sometimes you will be surprised to see you are the only bidder. If other people bid on that domain do not panic. The domain will enter a 3 day auction, but the prices will not go too high. You can still purchase them with around 100$.

Of course if you wish to buy pr 5 and 6es prices can go quite high sometimes, but i'm sure there are a few hidden treasures and from time to time you can get a good deal on a pr 5 or 6 too.

As a conclusion in order to start a high pr network of pr 3 and pr 4 sites composed of 20 sites you would need around 1400$. Now that of course might not be cheap for many people, but is not that high eighter.

If you charge 40$ per month for renting 20 links means 1400$ per month, considering you take 35 clients per 1 network of 20 sites. Is not that bad i would say. you invest a one time fee and get paid that same fee every month after without investing anything else.

And all this can be scaled. You can buy as many networks as you want. There are people i know of having up to 10 networks making 14000 a month.

After you bought all your 20 sites( first network) you will need hosting for all your sites. now hosting opinions are multiple. Some people say getting SEO hosting is not a good idea anymore as Google goes after this networks. After the Google update i say that is total nonsense. Both sites being hosted in normal shared accounts or sites being hosted on seo hosting got affected in the same exact way.

To be honest i prefer SEO hosting as is more easy to setup plus you get for sure different C Class ips. I personally use seohost.com. They have a very good customer support and after you buy whatever package you need, you just send them a ticket with your domain list, and you tell them to allocate unique ips and unique nameservers to each of your domains. I don't even bother allocating unique ips myself. just let them do all.

I use their shared hosting and for 20 C Class ips you pay 40$ a month.

After you have the hosting in place you will need to start a thread on Warriroforum to promote your new business. There are many talented people who offer thread designs on warrior. I used a guy named Des Lau. Many people used his services and he seems pretty good at what he does.

You create a nice thread design, you add it in warrior forum - warriors for hire and you are ready to receive your customers. In order to receive a decent flow of people from the start you should bump your thread each times it passes to second page as this way you will always be in the view.

Logically you should offer for each link unique hand written articles. I use iwriter.com for articles and get the 150 words articles. Is 25$ total for 20 articles. Many articles will be longer then 150 words going up to 300. you just need to review each article in part and make sure you accept only good quality ones.

I charge 64$ for my package of 20 links. Meaning i get 39 and 25$ i pay for articles.

Regarding the site.......you should not build a site right way as is not needed. Why spend more when it does not make any difference. I had a site, i wanted to get to be all professional and all but i do not think it helped my sales in any way. you can use Online Form Builder with Cloud Storage Database | Wufoo. Is an online form builder. So many people selling on warrior and not only are using them. They are not expensive and creating a form is really easy. I will not enter in more details about this as if you go check a few services out there you can figure out on your own what information you need on your wufoo form.

When you create the sites, where you will add your clients articles make sure you use multiple CMS platforms such as wordpress, joomla, drupal and b2evolution.

When you add the CMS platforms and create the sites make sure you keep into account what variant of the sites is the one that has both high DA and PA according to opensiteexplorer. for example if you imputed domainname.com on opensiteexplorer and it gave you DA 25 and PA 1, and then you also checked the w w w.domainname.com version and that one gave you DA 25 and PA 40 then when you create the site you will need to create it with the www. in the url otherwise your future homepage address will have DA 25 and PA of 1.
Is very easy to do that from the cpanel of your domains.

I don't know what else to tell you for now, but if you have any questions i am happy to give you advises.

Regards,
Claudia
#search engine optimization #high #links #renting #service
  • Claudia,

    Thank you for the post. These are some great tips. Just a few days ago I decided to stop using high PR links from WF and use that money to build my own link network for my own sites. I've seen too many problems with the links that some people are selling.
  • $10 a month is not that much..
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    • That is pretty short sighted. After $10, build and multiply.
  • This must be the same "build your blog network guide" that ALN and BMR read before they started.

    If only building a blog network that will last more then 5 minutes, was that simple. SMH....

    SEO hosting..Iwriter...35 random clients per site..oh my oh my...
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      Hey another network with 35 sporadically changing homepage links, where did we see that before.

      This whole renting model is even worse then ALN/BMR.

      Besides you should stay up to date, Ideastack a reseller / SEO host with multiple data centers just got whacked a couple of weeks ago. 10.000+ domains got deindexed and you are claiming that it's 100% safe.
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    • Oh Kevin didn't you learn by now that good things are not actually that complex?

      now i know my guide is not very organised as i am not very good in english, but oh well...i tried. Oh and trust me as about the people who own ALN(cause they also have other services they offer) they are now on a beach in the sun with no worries.....
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  • Thank you so much for this valuable information , but there are other Good places to promote those kind of services other than the warrior forum although they are not famous as the warrior forum but the competition would be much less than here.

    one more thing , i saw a lot of fighting going around lately , they should hire a new moderator for maintaining the attitude of the members,
    seriously people act like a true professional.

    Thank you Clus03 again
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  • Blog Networks are only successful for one person, YOU, because you sack in $6000 month *selling* links which is about the worst thing you can do ever since two years ago ALN and BMR were busted and pretty much any other (major) network afterwards and on-going.

    The point is, IN THEORY what you say is of course all good and great....until it gets to the point where you advertise your network/selling links on a public forum, be it WF or BHW or whatever and get 100s of clients.

    Funny thing since Matt just busted two more networks this week alone.

    What happens when your network gets busted and ALL the hundreds of people using your network getting penalized?

    Do you make it clear to them that a blog network today can only be for the short-term?

    Do you help them cleaning up their link profile once the network got busted and do you compensate them in case some people lose their business because they used your network?

    I know I sound like I am exaggerating..but it's simply the truth that buying any kind of links OFF A HIGH TRAFFIC PUBLIC FORUM where 100s of people put their crappy links on one site is just an idiotic thing to do.

    Ironically, you don't need to bother because all you need to do is count your $$$ each month...and it won't affect you a lot in case the net gets busted.
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    • I am sure high pr networks will always and forever get busted, that is not the point. The reality is that Google updates their pr just once in like 8 months( for some time now). If you buy strong domains that have a solid backlink profile you have good chances of keeping that pr after Google updates too.

      Some of the sites will undoubtedly fall, and yes of course you need to replace them. that is not even a question, is a sure thing. But the price one would pay to replace those domains, it is acceptable considering the profit would be made in the period between the Google updates.

      I have never ever stated this business model will last forever. Google could come at any time and start updating their pr daily as much as we know. I was saying in the present times this is still a good business. I think you people do not understand the purpose of the thread and keep commenting on unimportant matters.

      If this was a WSO sold with 5$ everybody would say is a great wso and business idea, but if i post it for free, what do come to say in return? That is a bad seo technique? No is not, at all, but most importantly is not a bad business idea.

      I am filling my pockets? no i am not thank you, and even if i would i would from a service i offer and work for, and i offer as i promise. and those people you say would have problems after the pr updates, it is not the case, as pr domains are fastly replaceable.
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  • the people who own ALN(cause they also have other services they offer) they are now on a beach in the sun with no worries.....


    Yeah I am sooooooo happy for that. And the 1000s of former customers of them are still suffering. Isn't life beautiful?

    Thanks for being upfront about your real intention.

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    The model of business i gave is good and is working,
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    A publicly advertised BLOG NETWORK *today* is a "good business and working"? Working for whom? You?
  • The point is that MANY people don't know # about SEO, they read the ads with the (often) outright lies/claims on public forums and buy links for their site(s).

    Same as with SEO software where people (website owners, businesses etc.) who have NO CLUE WHATSOEVER read somewhere how great Senuke etc. is and are spending big amounts of money because they believe it will rank their sites.

    Two years, ok THREE years ago I would've said great..fantastic you're helping people to set-up a halfway passable business model...today I can only laugh because you seem to blindly ignore what happened over the last two years.

    How many networks have we seen gone down already? Too many to count. How many sites have been penalized and slapped to death and how many people have LITERALLY lost hundreds of thousands if not millions...because they used the networks. And then you come here and advertise this as a good business like nothing happened?
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    • as far as i see i sense a bit of hatred in there....your sites must have gotten affected too prolly. I am sorry for you, and i admit there are so many scams. I mean i bought services from other people too......god for one i never ever saw their links anywhere.

      as for Senuke....the worst software ever. At least this is what i think.

      But the business model i present has nothing to do with this. If people would fallow the steps i presented they would acquire good domains. Even my friend here Nik0 admits that high pr links are not a waste of time of you know how to deal with them. You just have to think of quality and create the sites having this in mind.

      This type of links do help. Is a fact. I mean he is telling me i'm outdated then he admits to be having a network of its own.

      Taking this into account maybe you should stop buying links from others(since most people do not offer quality) and start building your own network and build your backlinks on it.
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  • Enough of this. You two need to knock it off. You look like little children bickering back and forth. If I was a potential buyer and saw this thread, I wouldn't buy from either one of you.

    Truth is, you are arguing over who has the better smelling turd.
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    • Man you're right. I go out. Bye all
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  • I'm actually a customer of clus03 so I think I could contribute a bit from my perspective.

    I've had a few experiences over the years with various services, especially WSOS that provide seemingly magical results that lasted a short period span (usually until a new google update arrives), those are brutal indeed once they get smashed.

    Now, I have a trip to Thailand coming up shortly and my thought was that I could use some extra cash to both help my family who reside there, and of course to vacation. With that taken into consideration and going through hundreds of WSOs, noticing high PR posts have been doing great at the time (I tried some other PR services before) I took the chance fully knowing the risk/reward when I came across clus03's WSO who caught my eye.

    Results : The site has been quite stable in several top 3 positions for over two months (I don't consider that long term). This translated into much needed earnings, all of which go towards the goal I mentioned. So as far as I'm concerned I picked the right service and am quite thankful for that.

    Now, would I trust my livelihood or even my most important websites all in the hands of this type service? (PR networks) I most certainly would not. Despite the fact that results have shown otherwise, it is no indication of the future. Of course I'd be happy to be proven wrong about that by clus03.

    There have been plenty of valid points made in this thread, and while some are by direct competitors who find brutalizing others to be a great tactic to increase their own business, some are actually by concerned members who genuinely care about others like myself who are trying to make it, and I'm disappointed that clus03 resorted to emotional responses instead of rebutting, though an argument could be made that it was because it couldn't be rebutted, it can also be made that she was just genuinely pissed off.

    So that's my take, I hope clus03 can take a little criticism from one of her happier customers.
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    • Funny thing is, I have no problem at all with the method used to set up the network the prices they charge, the money they make etc..

      The only issue I had was the blatant disregard for their clients in how they set up the sites within the network. It reads like a "how low can you go" guide to making as much profit as possible before Google pulls the plug on you.

      The only loser is going to be the clients of the network. And they've pretty much admitted to that publicly in this thread. ALN owners sitting in the Sun, buying $2 articles from writers with English as their third language, over-selling each network with random article themes and links.

      I mean c'mon really? Anyone with a memory greater then a Goldfish knows exactly how networks like this end up. I don't think anyone really needs an education about that do they? This type of network is Circa 2010.

      For Clus:
      Here you go,

      20 Site Network:

      Month 1
      Take the first $8000 (500 per site) of profit you make in your first month out, and use that to drop $500 into the full development of each of those 20 sites. I mean development as in. Design, Content, Optimization etc..
      Keep $2000 for yourself as profit.

      Month 2:
      Take $4000 (200 per site) out of that $10k to further improve Design, Content, Optimization etc..
      Keep $6000 for yourself as profit.

      Month 3 Onwards:
      Take $2000 (100 per site) out of that $10k to maintain Design, Content, Optimization etc..
      Keep $8000 for yourself as profit.

      Yes imagine that?
      • Making those network sites into "REAL" sites
      • Sites that rank for their own respective keywords (Use internal linking to rank internal pages with other forms of monetization),
      • Sites that get their own traffic,
      • Sites that even make their own money outside of link selling

      Realize those site should have enough juice to rank easy for some wisely chosen keywords without any external link building needed. (Internal links)

      Imagine the world you would live in? A comfortable world where both you "AND" your clients would be happily ranking and banking for "YEARS" to come.

      Just to add: You can charge a lot more then $60 a month for a network set up like that. = More profit.
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    • No comprende. Why in the world should a seller keep a link to a thread he/she is being trashed in on a WSO that he paid for? No ecommerce website or sales page on the planet would keep that link.
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  • Come on you guys, lets play nice.
  • Sweet! More crappy high PR services will popup with ridiculous claims and then get slaughered because they don't know what they are doing. But screw the clients that are paying good money for what they believe to be a good service.
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  • I got more than my money's worth for however months it lasted, sadly that may not be the case for many of her other clients. You guys were without a doubt right. Vanished on clients, deleted original thread, stopped responding to e-mails.
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    • Well you guys thrashed her, what would you expect?
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  • hands down one of the best posts i have ever read on the warrior forum!

    thank you so much for sharing. ignore the haters, you did a great service in sharing.
  • I would just write very high quality, useful content before I ever bought links but that's just me.
  • I was one of biggest individual link sellers around and have close to $1M in link sales. At the height of my business, I had 4*PR7, 58*PR6 and 108*PR5 sites selling links. I rarely had less than 50 PR5 and PR6 sites at a time. Although I recognize a lot of what Claudia wrote in OP, I strongly disagree with her figures which in my experience were far too optimistic.

    Anyway, my link selling business is more or less gone now, after multiple attacks from Google. You can take as many precautions in hiding your sites from Google. Still there is always something that you cannot fully guard against. For example, you cannot guard against busy people reporting your site. I dealt with many link brokers and I do know of anyone who is in great state now. Nobody would believe me to what lengths that Google would go to stamp out link selling.
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    • Google seems to be the common Achilles heel with all private blog networks. Has anyone IM ever built a link selling, high traffic (notice high traffic not high page rank) network of websites that did not rely on Google or any search engine for traffic?
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